Amd Cool N' Quiet Thing

ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">ack</div> when the AMD Cool N' Quiet thing is turned on does it make your CPU run quieter but make the CPU fan run slower. i ask this because i had it turned off and when my CPU would get to like 115+ degrees Farenheit, being this because its an AMD 64 3200+, the CPU fan would go up to like 4100 rpm. now that i have the Cool N' Quiet thing turned on when the CPU gets hot the fan doesnt go above 3400 rpm. im wondering if the Cool N' Quiet thing is good or bad and if it is recommended that i use it.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited February 2005
    If it gets up to 158F-176F or 70C-80C the cpu core 'might' burn through, but if it doesn't get higher then that there is no problem.

    158F being on the warm side but still safe
    176F being on the hot side, not recommended to run at for long durations
    higher still is to hot and dangerous...

    My delta fan runs at 4000rpm with my AMD Barton 2500+ clocked at 222x11=2442Mhz (1.75volt) and it never goes over 113F so a good fan could work wonders <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Personally, I don't mind how loud a computer is, unless it's just to the extreme. Cooler is always better when it comes to how computer parts run, so I'd say turn off the Cool 'N Quiet. I have it turned off for my amd 64 3500+.
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2005
    Cooler tends to make little difference. If you aren't overclocking then your processor is allready rated to be run at stock speed with quite awfull temperatures. That's one of the reasons overclocking works so well in the first place.

    As for the durabillity claims usually made, bah I say, if processors don't fail rather quickly they are unlikely to fail for a LONG time, much longer than the systems usable life span, if you just keep the temperatures sane.

    Cool and quiet underclocks your CPU and slows your fan down when not much power is demanded and clocks it back up again, and pressumably spins the fan up to full when it is needed.

    <a href='http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706~89440,00.html' target='_blank'>this</a> utillity might be slightly amusing if you have cool and quiet enabled to see what it does in action.
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  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    In other news, ill trade u computers, cept for vid cards
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  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    Using the Cool and Quiet function crushed my FPS in pretty much every game I attempted to play.
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Using the Cool and Quiet function crushed my FPS in pretty much every game I attempted to play.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It didn't detect high CPU usage and clock up to full speed properly?

    Did you install the driver for it?
    <a href='http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...71_9706,00.html</a>

    There's plenty of people who use cool and quiet without these issues(to some extent it might lag a bit the instant you start something very intensive, but most comments are to the effect that it quicker throtling up than most notebooks)
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  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    edited February 2005
    I was using the updated CPU driver, but it may not have been as recent as the one on that site.

    Your signature's far too true, as well.
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Is there a method of accurately viewing your cpu's internal temperatures other than checking while you reboot?

    I doubt I have any issues as 11 fans keep my AMD 2200 cool, but if there's a program out there that doesn't require a lot of cpu usage let me know.
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2005
    Your temperature will most likely be quite innacurate if an absolute value is what you are looking for even IF you look at it from bios. The temperature sensor on the athlon xp die is often NOT read by motherboards, instead opting for the older method of putting a thermistor in the socket under the processor and trying to guess the correct temperature of the core. However, it does perfectly fine for meassuring _changes_ in temperature even if it doesn't read the temps from the CPU die. Not to mention that the temperature varies a lot across the CPU die, so there isn't actually any absolute and well defined temperature anyway.

    If your motherboard CD with drivers and stuff didn't come with one of these little tools then there's one called motherboard monitor and probably plenty more if you google a little.

    If your computer is stable whatever you throw at it, your temperature is fine.
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  • ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-kwikloader+Feb 8 2005, 08:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Feb 8 2005, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is there a method of accurately viewing your cpu's internal temperatures other than checking while you reboot?

    I doubt I have any issues as 11 fans keep my AMD 2200 cool, but if there's a program out there that doesn't require a lot of cpu usage let me know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i have this program that tells me all the temperatures and a whole lot about your computer.
    <a href='http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/Everest-Home-Edition.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System...e-Edition.shtml</a>
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2005
    Edit: I found it! Thanks!
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->Field Value
    CPU Properties
    CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2200 MHz (11 x 200) 3500+
    CPU Alias Newcastle S939
    CPU Stepping DH7-CG
    Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2
    Min / Max CPU Multiplier 4x / 11x
    L1 Code Cache 64 KB  (Parity)
    L1 Data Cache 64 KB  (ECC)
    L2 Cache 512 KB  (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

    CPU Physical Info
    Package Type 939 Pin uOPGA
    Package Size 4.00 cm x 4.00 cm
    Transistors 68.5 million
    Process Technology 9Mi, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, SOI
    Die Size 150 mm2
    Core Voltage 1.50 V
    I/O Voltage 1.2 V + 2.5 V
    Maximum Power 89.0

    CPU Manufacturer
    Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

    CPU Utilization
    CPU #1 0 %
    <!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
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