New Browser Phishing Exploits

SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
edited February 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">All browsers except IE... sorta</div> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->East coast hacker con Shmoocon ended today and they had a nasty browser exploit to show off... using International Domain Name (IDN) character support to display fake domain names in links and the address bar. Their examples use Paypal (with SSL too) and this looks very useful for phishing attacks. Interesting note that it works in every browser *except* IE (which makes this exploit a lot less dangerous in the end, I suppose).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

--slashdot

You can test the exploit <a href='http://www.shmoo.com/idn/' target='_blank'>here</a>.

As far as I can tell, any browser using IDN is vulnerable. IE is (just about) the only browser that doesn't use IDN by default so it is, surprisingly, not vulnerable (by default).

Coincidentally, a bug in firefox (bug 281377, I belive) makes setting network.enableIDN to false in the about:config not work after a restart (works until then though). But hey, you can always use Microsoft's recommended method of typing in the address manually when you go to important sites (like paypal). Hopefully this will be dealt with shortly.
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  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    no I dont believe it...
    I believe in the one!1111

    long live firefox
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Quickly, delete. Dont let the IE fanbois time to gloat (though, poor things doesnt get to do it much)
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    I'm not saying that IE is superior to Firefox, but hopefully this will make some Firefox users (*coughAGOODPORTIONOFTHISFORUMcough*) realize that Firefox is not infallible.
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Feb 7 2005, 05:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Feb 7 2005, 05:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not saying that IE is superior to Firefox, but hopefully this will make some Firefox users (*coughAGOODPORTIONOFTHISFORUMcough*) realize that Firefox is not infallible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it will be fixed asap unlike, IE which will take till the next sp update which is like 2 years or a new version of micrcrap
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited February 2005
    Phur Instinkt and Epidemic, are you honestly suggesting that I deliberatly conceal this information for the sake of Firefox PR and ignore the potential damages it might cause to an uninformed user populace? Who do I look like, Microsoft? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Remember, IE is only not-vulnerable to this particular exploit because they, unsurprisingly, ignore the standard. This time it has worked in their favor.
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 7 2005, 05:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 7 2005, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Phur Instinkt and Epidemic, are you honestly suggesting that I deliberatly conceal this information for the sake of Firefox PR and ignore the potential damages it might cause to an uninformed user populace? Who do I look like, Microsoft? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> j/p
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 7 2005, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 7 2005, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Phur Instinkt and Epidemic, are you honestly suggesting that I deliberatly conceal this information for the sake of Firefox PR and ignore the potential damages it might cause to an uninformed user populace? Who do I look like, Microsoft? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Remember, IE is only not-vulnerable to this particular exploit because they, unsurprisingly, ignore the standard. This time it has worked in their favor. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes.
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Feb 7 2005, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Feb 7 2005, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 7 2005, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 7 2005, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Phur Instinkt and Epidemic, are you honestly suggesting that I deliberatly conceal this information for the sake of Firefox PR and ignore the potential damages it might cause to an uninformed user populace? Who do I look like, Microsoft?  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Remember, IE is only not-vulnerable to this particular exploit because they, unsurprisingly, ignore the standard. This time it has worked in their favor. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You win <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CondizzleCondizzle Join Date: 2004-10-05 Member: 32107Members
    I use IE... I'm no fanboy but it works.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yeah I saw this earlier.

    Hopefully it won't do too much damage. And hopefully there will be a fix later tonight, but if not its good to let people know about this, especially when its possible to rip someone's bank account off.

    I wouldn't be suprised if some paypal phishing sites crop up very soon using this exploit because while yes it won't work on IE, there are tons of phishing sites anyway that don't even use this IDN stuff and they, unfortunately, work just fine, so they'll probably just add IDN in hopes of snaring that rising 15% or whatever of browser users using FireFox
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Feb 7 2005, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Feb 7 2005, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I saw this earlier.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    YOU SAW IT EARLIER AND DIDNT POST ABOUT??!?!??!?!!?




    I commend you.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Feb 7 2005, 10:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Feb 7 2005, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not saying that IE is superior to Firefox, but hopefully this will make some Firefox users (*coughAGOODPORTIONOFTHISFORUMcough*) realize that Firefox is not infallible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Still less holes than IE tho, giving us an edge most of the time.

    Still eep.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    1 firefox exploit > 1343254536 IE exploits

    Firefox wins, again XD
  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    If you are observant, the certificate can give it away (usually). In this case, it's issued to <a href='http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/</a>
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Drfuzzy+Feb 7 2005, 06:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ Feb 7 2005, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1 firefox exploit > 1343254536 IE exploits

    Firefox wins, again XD <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    qft
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-0blique+Feb 7 2005, 06:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ Feb 7 2005, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you are observant, the certificate can give it away (usually). In this case, it's issued to <a href='http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The what now?
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rellix+Feb 7 2005, 03:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Feb 7 2005, 03:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Feb 7 2005, 10:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Feb 7 2005, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not saying that IE is superior to Firefox, but hopefully this will make some Firefox users (*coughAGOODPORTIONOFTHISFORUMcough*) realize that Firefox is not infallible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Still less holes than IE tho, giving us an edge most of the time.

    Still eep. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, it has just as many holes as IE. Its just that people are more dedicated to finding the holes in IE, because thats what the majority of people use.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Feb 7 2005, 12:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Feb 7 2005, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Rellix+Feb 7 2005, 03:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Feb 7 2005, 03:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Feb 7 2005, 10:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Feb 7 2005, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not saying that IE is superior to Firefox, but hopefully this will make some Firefox users (*coughAGOODPORTIONOFTHISFORUMcough*) realize that Firefox is not infallible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Still less holes than IE tho, giving us an edge most of the time.

    Still eep. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, it has just as many holes as IE. Its just that people are more dedicated to finding the holes in IE, because thats what the majority of people use. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not true, firefox doesnt load active-x objects too much.
  • triggahappytriggahappy Join Date: 2005-01-24 Member: 37985Members
    IE is still more exploited <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    This is yet another "click the link in the email" exploit, just like the last five or so. The exploits found in Firefox have all seem related to phishing in one form or another. This has taught me to type the URLs in the address bar.
  • Deus_Ex_MachinaDeus_Ex_Machina Join Date: 2004-07-01 Member: 29674Members
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin-Deus Ex Machina+Feb 8 2005, 04:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deus Ex Machina @ Feb 8 2005, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> FIERFAUX FTW! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If thats true then IE must be Internet Exploiter <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Feb 7 2005, 06:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Feb 7 2005, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-0blique+Feb 7 2005, 06:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ Feb 7 2005, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you are observant, the certificate can give it away (usually).  In this case, it's issued to <a href='http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The what now? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In case you're curious about what I'm talking about, here's an explanation:

    When you visit a site using a secure (anything with https://...) connection, which you should, if you're sending private data, you're encrypting all your communications. But since anyone can set up their own secure webserver, you still need to verify the identity of the server. This is where certificates comes in.

    Part of the authentication process involves public key encryption, where everyone can encrypt data with it, but only the person(s) with the related private key can read it. Getting the private key from the public key is VERY difficult, doing the opposite is quite easy. Each https webserver has their own public/private key, and duplicating someone else's key is very difficult.

    In order to verify the identity of the owner of a key, it has to be "signed" by a certificate authority that you trust. The certificate contains the key of the server, as well as a digital signature of the key, which can only come from the certificate authority (digital signatures also involves public/private keys so certificates are also difficult to forge).

    If you were to view the certificate (usually by viewing page settings or sometimes by clicking on the lock icon that appears on a secure site), then you can view the details about the certificate, including who issued it (it should be a major company like verisign), who it's issued for and when it expires. This is the way you are supposed to identify a website. In this case (if you visit the https version), the site that the certificate is issued for is NOT the site you think it is, which should signal that something's wrong.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    edited February 2005
    <a href='http://www.aliceandbill.com/2005/02/moz-hosed-again.html' target='_blank'>http://www.aliceandbill.com/2005/02/moz-hosed-again.html</a>

    Look like a temp fix is already available.

    about:config
    network.enableIDN > false

    <b>EDIT</b>: Bah, this only works until the browser is restarted. Nevermind. We'll have to wait for the fix from Mozilla.

    Although, it should be noted this error seems to be an issue with IDN, and not Firefox. Firefox is properly designed, but the IDN standard isn't (at least, according to Slashdot, but they're not known for being objective). This phisher affects the "smaller" browsers because they support multi-lingual IDN, while Internet Explorer doesn't support multi-lingual IDN.
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    edited February 2005
    More permanent fix.

    <a href='http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=215178' target='_blank'>http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=215178</a>

    Just don't add any new extensions until it's fixed properly.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2005
    Any reason why adding
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->user_pref("network.enableIDN", false);<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2--> to user.js wouldn't work? That'd set the setting to false every browser startup...

    [edit]
    Nevermind. It seems that even though it retains the 'false' setting it isn't actually making it false, as the exploit still works...
    [/edit]
  • TwistedXTwistedX Join Date: 2004-10-01 Member: 32042Members
    Couldnt you just open a website your gonna buy something on in IE to check, and continute on in another browser?
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-TwistedX+Feb 8 2005, 05:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TwistedX @ Feb 8 2005, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Couldnt you just open a website your gonna buy something on in IE to check, and continute on in another browser? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you're already at that point why not just type the URL into the current browser?

    BTW, Kalias's solution does in fact work.
  • iFireiFire Join Date: 2002-07-31 Member: 1038Members
    TURNED ON CONFIG AND ITS FIXED <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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