Avro 60cal Heavy Combat Rifle

SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
edited January 2005 in Concepts and Requests
<div class="IPBDescription">HMG</div> Hello, all!

I was planning on drawing this concept with a Drum Magazine (because a futuristic HMG with a Drum Mag would be badass for NS), but as I progressed I found that that was... pretty much impossible.

So I gave it a M4A1 Pulse Rifle-esque kind of heavy magazine that holds a smaller, more compact form of .60 caliber ammunition. (Remember, this is the future so such bullets already exsist).

Hats off to those who know where the "Avro" name comes from. (I name all my concepts with that prefix).

About the gun:

Avro Industries

Avro Type 16 HCR (Heavy Combat Rifle)

.60 Caliber, 125 hollowpoint rounds

Magazine

It's a HMG replacement, with a heavy frame surrounding the gun to support it, and a built-in shock absorber in the Stock. (Notice the spring?)

It features an intergrated grip, with a "functional Foregrip" and precise ironsights.

About the drawing:

Well, the part with the spring in the stock is supposed to be empty, exept the spring, and the Ironsight is fixed on one end and loose on the other (It's on a hinge), so as the weapon fires it will bounce up and down slightly. (I know it's not very functional, but I think it would look neat if this weapon were to ever be animated).

As with all my conepts, you are free to post anything you like or even edit it to your own liking.

*Suggestions are Welcome*

Thanks for your time,
-Sid <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

P.S. Do .60 Caliber bullets even exsist?
P.P.S. This weapon is not designed to look pretty. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    As always Sid dear chum... a piece of smex. I especially like the visible workings at the back.
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  • Pho3niXPho3niX Join Date: 2003-09-22 Member: 21118Members
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> i lubjoo Sid <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    horribly back-heavy... reminds me of those starving rwandan kids you see with bloated stomachs and skinny arms and legs.


    i don't like it.
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  • Death_by_bulletsDeath_by_bullets Join Date: 2004-03-14 Member: 27336Members
    agree w/above looks like a pistol with a stock on it, add some bulk to the front, perhaps an underside GL or shotty attachment
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    I kind of noticed how back heavy it was, heh - I'll see what I can do. Seeya soon!

    *Works on Gun* <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Thanks for the feedback!
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Better? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    ok...now we're pratically adding artillery to the marine's armory <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I have no problem with that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (if I remember correctly,anything over .50 is considered "artillery",it might be 20mm...shotguns are an exception at 12 gauge and etc.)
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  • StarStarGrizzlyStarStarGrizzly Join Date: 2004-02-06 Member: 26139Members
    edited January 2005
    it looks like a bullpup and the aliens flamethrower baby + some pulse rifle in there
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  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    lol looks nice sid <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • JaegerJaeger Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10202Members
    Could you try moving the grip/trigger assembly down a bit? I'm having a hard time seeing where you'd fit a fire selector on this bad boy. Looking good otherwise.
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Theres no room for the mechanics/safe in the trigger, other than that the second version is sexy.
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  • HellspawnUKHellspawnUK Join Date: 2004-08-07 Member: 30437Members
    hope ya dont mind but I was bored so I coloured it in <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The few slight changes to the body were done by Mephmage


    Had to switch to a jpeg cause I couldnt fit a .png on, So some colours will look strange
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    finally worked out what doesn't look right; bulk out the receiver a bit, its too skinny and insignificant. especially in comparison to the clip, stock, barrel, carrying handle etc. etc...
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-HellspawnUK+Jan 30 2005, 09:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HellspawnUK @ Jan 30 2005, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hope ya dont mind but I was bored so I coloured it in <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The few slight changes to the body were done by Mephmage


    Had to switch to a jpeg cause I couldnt fit a .png on, So some colours will look strange <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ahhh, it's good hear that Mempage is still kicking around - he's a great Concept Artist and did a VERY good job colouring this - please tell him I said thanks. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Thanks for all the suggestions - I just got back from a trip and I have a lot of unpacking to do and whatnot, but I shall try to incorperate them into the concept. Thanks again! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    -Sid
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Alright, here we go.

    I bulked it up a bit
    I shorten the stock (ie. moved the grip back)

    I borrowed some of Hellspawn's ideas and added...
    A Lasersight
    Railmount

    Thanks so much for the suggestions, guys! - now what do you think? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    -Sid
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Touched it up a bit.

    Added a Laser, added a but more detail to the Laserpointer and fixed the Shock in the back.

    (Forgot to add this last time)

    I added a Bullet Diagram. I Know it's small for a .60 Cal, but you got to remember - it's the future. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (NANITES!)

    The bullet says, ".60 AE" on it.

    And a big thanks to Mephmage for colouring my last concept - I didn't want to ruin or edit his by adding more features to my Gun.

    Suggestions and feedback would be welcome - and like all my concepts, feel free to add your own opinion to it by editing the picture itself! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Thanks again,
    -Sid
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Hmm... added a bit of Detail to the grip and some very minor changes to the front.
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  • frylockfrylock Join Date: 2004-10-29 Member: 32515Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was planning on drawing this concept with a Drum Magazine (because a futuristic HMG with a Drum Mag would be badass for NS), but as I progressed I found that that was... pretty much impossible.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm shocked that Fuzzy didn't step up and tell you that it's not.

    <img src='http://www.nsarmslab.com/details/images/fuzzygalil.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Yeah, I saw that.

    What I was saying is that it would be hard to implement a drum mag on *my* concept, lol. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Not just normal HMGs in general.

    Sorry for the confusion.
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  • frylockfrylock Join Date: 2004-10-29 Member: 32515Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sid+Jan 31 2005, 11:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ Jan 31 2005, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, I saw that.

    What I was saying is that it would be hard to implement a drum mag on *my* concept, lol. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Not just normal HMGs in general.

    Sorry for the confusion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I had a feeling you ment that. I just wanted to clarify. (and pimp another of Fuzzys awsome ports. I pimp his work any time I can <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    lol - I must admit Fuzzy does do some great work. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • slayerkl2slayerkl2 RUFCKINGKETAMINE?????? Join Date: 2004-10-17 Member: 32324Members
    that would be a jerk to hold. just think about the weight in the back and your habds so close together. Your arms would definatly ache
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-slayerkl2+Feb 1 2005, 07:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (slayerkl2 @ Feb 1 2005, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> that would be a jerk to hold. just think about the weight in the back and your habds so close together. Your arms would definatly ache <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They don't call it a <b>Heavy</b> Machine Gun for nothin'!

    [rimshot] *BADUM - Tsssshhhhh* [/rimshot]
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  • HellspawnUKHellspawnUK Join Date: 2004-08-07 Member: 30437Members
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sid+Jan 31 2005, 05:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ Jan 31 2005, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ahhh, it's good hear that Mempage is still kicking around - he's a great Concept Artist and did a VERY good job colouring this - please tell him I said thanks. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Thanks for all the suggestions - I just got back from a trip and I have a lot of unpacking to do and whatnot, but I shall try to incorperate them into the concept. Thanks again! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    -Sid <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I coloured it...

    First ever colouring of anyones concept, turned out pretty well I thought lol. Seems so by your post neway.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-HellspawnUK+Feb 2 2005, 06:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HellspawnUK @ Feb 2 2005, 06:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Sid+Jan 31 2005, 05:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ Jan 31 2005, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ahhh, it's good hear that Mempage is still kicking around - he's a great Concept Artist and did a VERY good job colouring this - please tell him I said thanks. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Thanks for all the suggestions - I just got back from a trip and I have a lot of unpacking to do and whatnot, but I shall try to incorperate them into the concept. Thanks again! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    -Sid <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I coloured it...

    First ever colouring of anyones concept, turned out pretty well I thought lol. Seems so by your post neway. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh, sorry for the confusion.

    Thanks Hellspawn - you did a great job. I Love the background. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CFInsaneCFInsane Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20254Members
    has a unique look to it especially the back stock area. overall its great

    the bullets seem a bit big to be able to squeeze 125 rounds in a straight mag.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CFInsane+Feb 2 2005, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CFInsane @ Feb 2 2005, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> has a unique look to it especially the back stock area. overall its great

    the bullets seem a bit big to be able to squeeze 125 rounds in a straight mag. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm, I noticed that.... alright, fine - you talked me into it. I'll see if I can put a drum mag on it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DoZ3RDoZ3R Join Date: 2004-06-10 Member: 29224Members
    O ya had to twist ur arm eh? lol good job so far man
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Bah - I still have no clue how to draw a decent Drum mag on this thing - so I just extended the magazine a bit.

    Now does it look like it could hold 125 rounds? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DoZ3RDoZ3R Join Date: 2004-06-10 Member: 29224Members
    edited February 2005
    still don't look like it could... gimme a minute and ill show ya

    Sry for teh crappy quality =D

    NOW it looks like it could carry a lotta bullets... just enough for the entire kharra species, give or take <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Time to get me some gorgehs

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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