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Big Girl's Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
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<div class="IPBDescription">Thoughts and feelings.</div> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Responsible Gambling :
William Hill want you to enjoy your online gambling experience with William Hill and advise you to follow these guidelines :
Please try and establish limits for purchasing, wagering and even losses before you
commence gambling.
Gambling is not advised if it interferes with your daily responsibilities.
Gambling is not advised if you are in recovery for any dependency or are under the influence of
alcohol or any other substance.
Gambling is not advised if your primary aim is to recoup your debt with your winnings.
If you would like further advice, or help, with responsible gambling then contact one of the
organisations below :
Gamblers Anonymous : www.gamblersanonymous.org
GamCare : UK Based Helpline : 0845 600 0133 or through their website at www.gamcare.org.uk
If you feel you may have a problem with your gambling, ask yourself the following questions:
Do you stay away from work or college to gamble?
Do you gamble to escape from a boring or unhappy life?
When gambling and you run out of money, do you feel lost and in despair, and need to gamble again as soon as possible?
Do you gamble until your last penny is gone, even the bus fare home or the cost of a cup of tea?
Have you ever lied to cover up the amount of money or time you have gambled?
Have others ever criticised your gambling?
Have you lied, stolen or borrowed just to get money to gamble or pay gambling debts?
Are you reluctant to spend 'gambling money' on anything else?
Have you lost interest in your family, friends or interests?
After losing, do you feel you must try and win back your losses as soon as possible?
Do arguments, frustrations or disappointments make you want to gamble?
Do you feel depressed or even suicidal because of your gambling?
Self-Exclusion :
Whilst most customers are able to enjoy their gambling, William Hill recognises that for a very small number of customers gambling ceases to be fun. For those customers who wish to restrict their gambling, William Hill provides a self-exclusion facility which enables customers to request their exclusion from one or more of our betting channels for a minimum of six months.
For more information on self-exclusion please contact a member of our customer service team.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For those of you that don't know I work for William Hill one of the UK's largest Betting Companies. We have over 1500 offices across the country, the largest international telephone betting system around and a website which is improving all the time. We have also just entered the FTSE100 index making us one of the top 100 businesses in the country.
Introduction aside yesterday at work we had what is considered a "poor day" as there were no English race meetings. What we had was Italian, German, French, Irish and South African racing, and despite this we still had punters in and took nearly £5000gbp off them.
The British Parliament is recognising that gambling is becoming a more popular past-time and is trying to promote "Socially Responsbile Gambling" (while at the same time encouraging people to play the national lottery but thats a whole other story) and as such we, the bookmakers have to be responsible for our customers. However, we are a business and businesses need to make money otherwise whats the point in there existance, so aren't we in quite a quandry.
What I'm interested in hearing from everyone here, especially those of you outside of the UK, is how popular is Horse Racing and gambling in your country? Do you, or anyone you know gamble? And if so, to excess? And what are everyones thoughts and opinions on gambling, harmless fun or life destroying addiction?
Thanks in advance.
William Hill want you to enjoy your online gambling experience with William Hill and advise you to follow these guidelines :
Please try and establish limits for purchasing, wagering and even losses before you
commence gambling.
Gambling is not advised if it interferes with your daily responsibilities.
Gambling is not advised if you are in recovery for any dependency or are under the influence of
alcohol or any other substance.
Gambling is not advised if your primary aim is to recoup your debt with your winnings.
If you would like further advice, or help, with responsible gambling then contact one of the
organisations below :
Gamblers Anonymous : www.gamblersanonymous.org
GamCare : UK Based Helpline : 0845 600 0133 or through their website at www.gamcare.org.uk
If you feel you may have a problem with your gambling, ask yourself the following questions:
Do you stay away from work or college to gamble?
Do you gamble to escape from a boring or unhappy life?
When gambling and you run out of money, do you feel lost and in despair, and need to gamble again as soon as possible?
Do you gamble until your last penny is gone, even the bus fare home or the cost of a cup of tea?
Have you ever lied to cover up the amount of money or time you have gambled?
Have others ever criticised your gambling?
Have you lied, stolen or borrowed just to get money to gamble or pay gambling debts?
Are you reluctant to spend 'gambling money' on anything else?
Have you lost interest in your family, friends or interests?
After losing, do you feel you must try and win back your losses as soon as possible?
Do arguments, frustrations or disappointments make you want to gamble?
Do you feel depressed or even suicidal because of your gambling?
Self-Exclusion :
Whilst most customers are able to enjoy their gambling, William Hill recognises that for a very small number of customers gambling ceases to be fun. For those customers who wish to restrict their gambling, William Hill provides a self-exclusion facility which enables customers to request their exclusion from one or more of our betting channels for a minimum of six months.
For more information on self-exclusion please contact a member of our customer service team.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For those of you that don't know I work for William Hill one of the UK's largest Betting Companies. We have over 1500 offices across the country, the largest international telephone betting system around and a website which is improving all the time. We have also just entered the FTSE100 index making us one of the top 100 businesses in the country.
Introduction aside yesterday at work we had what is considered a "poor day" as there were no English race meetings. What we had was Italian, German, French, Irish and South African racing, and despite this we still had punters in and took nearly £5000gbp off them.
The British Parliament is recognising that gambling is becoming a more popular past-time and is trying to promote "Socially Responsbile Gambling" (while at the same time encouraging people to play the national lottery but thats a whole other story) and as such we, the bookmakers have to be responsible for our customers. However, we are a business and businesses need to make money otherwise whats the point in there existance, so aren't we in quite a quandry.
What I'm interested in hearing from everyone here, especially those of you outside of the UK, is how popular is Horse Racing and gambling in your country? Do you, or anyone you know gamble? And if so, to excess? And what are everyones thoughts and opinions on gambling, harmless fun or life destroying addiction?
Thanks in advance.
Comments
However, one interesting thing I heard from someone is that gambling can be entertainment. Spending 10$ on gambling is the equivalent for some people of spending 10$ on a movie.
If you can't stop yourself of gambling and you gamble big sums, then it's a life destroying addiction.
As a business it is better to promote safe gambling, you will maybe make a little less money but long term it is more profitable, since peoples who goes overboard in gambling often go in depression and suicide is not rare in those case (seen enough from the coroner's office here).
I do enjoy gambling. And I’ve fallen victim to the Texas Hold’em trend, which is typically next to the sports bookie in most casinos. So if horse racing is what you are interested in, I can honestly tell you that on days that the horsies ARE racing, there are very few people sitting in the sporting room watching and gambling.
Ok, back to me. I like the card games, Hold’Em and Black Jack. I live near Reno, Nevada and drive over there maybe once every other month (sometimes less, typically never more) for a weekend of gambling. I set a budget for myself (typically $100 / day) and when expect to come home broke. This way if I come out even it feels like a victory! Although I am a becoming a decent poker player, the weekend before Christmas I went and won $400 playing 2/4 Hold’em, so I was very proud.
I think that gambling can be an addiction and those prone to addiction problems should steer away. I had a college friend who worked at the dog track, and always cashed his paychecks at the local Indian casino. He would wake me up at three in the morning on school nights and pester me to go gambling with him, he was so desperate to have a ‘friend’ there that he’d give me his money to gamble with. I think he had a problem, and I think that there are many like him, suffering the same way.
A parting note, I find it humorous that casinos promote smart gambling and suggest not to do it if among other things your under the influence of alcohol. Here, if you’re in an ages 21+ casino and are gambling, they will serve you whatever alcoholic drink you like and keep it coming as long as you have money on the table (or near the slots). Usually when I’m headed towards a big loss I drink as much as I can just so I can TRY to get my money’s worth!
Go overboard and it's called an addiction. Just like other addictions (in varying degrees), it can destroy your life.
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But mathemathical speaking: You can beat the house with the right system....and an endless supply of money.
e.g. roulett: There is an equall amount of red and black numbers as well as one green number. The house only wins cause of this single green field.
How to beat it.
Bet 100 on red. If you should loose just double your bet.. and so on and so on.
This way you always compenstate for former losses.
You can beat nearly any system, if you have an endless supply of money, which covers the unfortunate event of several losses in a row.
But mathemathical speaking: You can beat the house with the right system....and an endless supply of money.
e.g. roulett: There is an equall amount of red and black numbers as well as one green number. The house only wins cause of this single green field.
How to beat it.
Bet 100 on red. If you should loose just double your bet.. and so on and so on.
This way you always compenstate for former losses.
You can beat nearly any system, if you have an endless supply of money, which covers the unfortunate event of several losses in a row. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Martingale system... many gamblers have fallen prey to its grasp.
You only need to consider one point, to prove the futility of the system:
If you had an infinite supply of money, you wouldn't be at the roulette table. Otherwise, the system will undoubtedly fail to "beat the bookies".
Anyways: If you want to bet just ask yourself the following: Why are most casinos owners rich?....
Anyways: If you want to bet just ask yourself the following: Why are most casinos owners rich?.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because their customers are not too bright?
<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>(My apologies for the previously harsh wording)</span>
Then there are the card counters, who can, if they're good at it, actually rake in great profits at blackjack. Since this is merely mathematics done in your head, it's not cheating, and thus cannot be forbidden. However, it is often relatively easy to spot, as the card counter will often make big bids at seemingly random times, and the casino will throw the "offender" out. Relatively politely, as he has not actually done anything they can get to him for (nor can they prove anything). But since the casinos decide who is allowed inside and who is not, they do not need to provide a reason for throwing someone out, either.
Is this by chance? No, it's mathetically proven that they will win in the long-run, and we're talking about simple probability here.
However, people continue to pour their money into lottery pools and casinos. Is this foolish or what?