I'd give it a higher rating if the game could pull me in. Just when you start to get into the story you either get seperated from the group or they suddenly all die. Doom 3 is probably the only game that pulled you into the game and wouldn't let go. That is if you let it. (Lights off, Sound Cranked, No disturbances} I'm not floored by the graphics in the least. I mean It's pretty at times but it's not like HOLY CRAP THIS IS AMAZING. I mean the first time I played Doom 3 and it showed off it's tech I was like. Ok that's really damned cool. The only thing I thought was cool about HL2 tech wise was the physics. They were well done but making us do stupid puzzles and then Ravnholm? If I ever saw a tech demo level for physics that place is it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Nov 16 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Nov 16 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They don't take that long when you have common sense.
I'm finding HL2 on easy to be moderately hard. Haven't tried hard mode, but frankly, that guy's gotta be playing the game tactically if he's doing it hard mode "easily"- which would still get him killed. I somehow doubt it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's true, but I remember back in the old days like Doom and Doom2, it actually took quite a big effort to beat the game on Hard Difficulty. Some of the map levels were HUGE with a load of baddies strategically placed, they didn't hold back at all when trying to challenge the players with the monster amounts and map difficulty.
Then again, I guess the advancement of the gaming engine and gaming graphics, it's probably a lot harder to create big maps like in the old days since they focus on quality instead of quantity.
The GMan is the coolest videogame character <b>EVER</b> (and DOG is the second in the list) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The only part which was boring to me was the airboat, holy ****, that part was SO long.
Actually, after the end I kind of wanted to throw the g-man off the train with the g-gun, but that's just me.
Doom 3 sucked you in? I played it in pitch black with 7.1 speakers with all settings maxed and that game still didn't manage to suck me in, or even startle me. It was, how can I put this, boring once the initial shock value of "OMg ITZ D3wM wit 73h 1337 GRAPGIXZ!!!!111" wore off. Console survival horror and Doom gameplay plus technological limitations do not mix. One monster after another, same kind, over and over. No suspense, just fire away with your huge stockpile of ammo.
If any game managed to completely immerse me in recent memory, it was Halo 2. They said they wanted to make the gameplay and the story the same thing, and they suceeded. This may just be because I <3 the Halo story.
Oh yea, HL2 can range from very, very immersive (Ravenholm) to boring (...can't think of a level).
<!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Nov 17 2004, 10:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Nov 17 2004, 10:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (and DOG is the second in the list) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm going to assume that you're talking about Shadowrun, and say "Damn Straight." That was a fun game.
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<!--QuoteBegin-docchimpy+Nov 18 2004, 02:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docchimpy @ Nov 18 2004, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Nov 17 2004, 10:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Nov 17 2004, 10:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (and DOG is the second in the list) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm going to assume that you're talking about Shadowrun, and say "Damn Straight." That was a fun game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dog is also a character in HL2... My new fav character is Lamar the headcrab <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Sub_zer0+Nov 18 2004, 02:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sub_zer0 @ Nov 18 2004, 02:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> firstly it is Gregory and i have also finished it i thought the ending was a bit poop it left me with a lot more qeustions than ansers <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, from everything I've seen and heard, it's <i>Grigory</i>.
<!--QuoteBegin-Kouji San+Nov 18 2004, 01:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kouji San @ Nov 18 2004, 01:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-docchimpy+Nov 18 2004, 02:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docchimpy @ Nov 18 2004, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Nov 17 2004, 10:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Nov 17 2004, 10:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (and DOG is the second in the list) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm going to assume that you're talking about Shadowrun, and say "Damn Straight." That was a fun game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dog is also a character in HL2... My new fav character is Lamar the headcrab <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Seconded. Lamar > all. Hell, Lamar > Barney + Kleiner + Gordon + Alyx, and those 4 together are > All - Lamar, so therefore Lamar > all. I love it in the lab when he (omgzor it r t3h spoilz0rz) tries to latch onto Barney, and then jumps behind the boxes and mooks up the teleporter (I dunno if "mooks" is a word, but if not, it is now).
i realy like the ending specialy how the gman kinda froze time and then proceeded to dust off alyx <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> the ending was very nicely done and something i definitly didnt expect to see
i dont see why all the reviews of hl2 said the story was bad im loving it if the half life series were books i would definitly read them
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Nov 17 2004, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Nov 17 2004, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually, after the end I kind of wanted to throw the g-man off the train with the g-gun, but that's just me.
Doom 3 sucked you in? I played it in pitch black with 7.1 speakers with all settings maxed and that game still didn't manage to suck me in, or even startle me. It was, how can I put this, boring once the initial shock value of "OMg ITZ D3wM wit 73h 1337 GRAPGIXZ!!!!111" wore off. Console survival horror and Doom gameplay plus technological limitations do not mix. One monster after another, same kind, over and over. No suspense, just fire away with your huge stockpile of ammo.
If any game managed to completely immerse me in recent memory, it was Halo 2. They said they wanted to make the gameplay and the story the same thing, and they suceeded. This may just be because I <3 the Halo story.
Oh yea, HL2 can range from very, very immersive (Ravenholm) to boring (...can't think of a level).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It did and I got exactly what I wanted out of Doom 3. A dark scary game with good graphics. When I got HL2 I was expecting ground breaking revolutionary play. Massive outdoor environments. A good story. Awesome AI. And some open endedness. What I got was a rail shooter with horrible AI. Hell atleast doom 3 gave you a choice once how to go through an area. I find it funny how you mention fighting the same monsters over and over. HL2 has 6 major enemies 3 Zombies, 2 combine, Antlions. And wandering from one post apocalyptic abandon building to the next fighting the same thing over and over gets pretty tedious if you ask me.
And to all of you proclaiming this game the best thing since sliced bread. Try running through it with minimal use of the gravity gun. The combat isn't fun in the least. The physics are the only saving grace of this game because the gameplay is to put it bluntly. Crap
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Yeah and try playing Max Payne without the slow motion, it sucks! Also i played GTA without ever driving a car, i got bored so fast, so dissappointing!
So you admit that the only saving grace of the game is the gravity gun. That's all I needed to hear. Sorry throwing barrels got old after 4 Donkey Kong Country games. I don't need it in an FPS
Good. Now that i have satisfied you, you can stop trolling <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Chem+Nov 18 2004, 05:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chem @ Nov 18 2004, 05:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So you admit that the only saving grace of the game is the gravity gun. That's all I needed to hear. Sorry throwing barrels got old after 4 Donkey Kong Country games. I don't need it in an FPS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, frankly, your arguement hasn't got a leg to stand on.
So sorry that you can't appreciate its superlative brilliance.
HL2 had interesting scenarios and fun combat. Doom 3 had things popping out right in front of you over and over (occasionally behind you! OMG WAT VARIETIE!!!11), whereas HL2 had amazing moments.
Did any of you who beat the game feel or felt bothered about the shortness of the game? Or were you actually fulfilled when you beat it, feeling like you actually had to work for the victory and spent a good amount of time at it, being challenged enough, etc.
I was rather disappointed with how short the game was. Seriously, I beat it in one day and I didn't even have to take a bathroom break. Still, it was fun.
The ending also **** me off. I wanted to kill the G-man...
That's what I was afraid of when I didn't pre-order like everyone else. I was afraid of a Doom3 repeat though from reading the threads, HL2 >> Doom3 by a lot. However, the gameplay and challenge is still lacking, sadly enough. I remember how hard Doom2 was to beat as a whole... ah the good ol' days of real challenge.
<!--QuoteBegin-Chem+Nov 18 2004, 11:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chem @ Nov 18 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So you admit that the only saving grace of the game is the gravity gun. That's all I needed to hear. Sorry throwing barrels got old after 4 Donkey Kong Country games. I don't need it in an FPS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was completly loving the game even before I got the gravity gun. Its atmosphere is amazing, the combat(without the gravity gun) is incredibly fun.
You're trying to call HL2 repetive? I don't really see any argument here, while Water Hazard was a bit drawn out, the fun I had on the level was worth it. It does a great job of giving you differant types of combat, (shooting combine, solving a puzzle, being attacked by a helicopter, swooping across water in an airboat)
Yes the physics engine is great fun, its not like the game only started getting fun once you got the gravity gun. I guess some people just can't stand agreeing with people and must argue for the sake of arguing.....
I Loved the atmosphere and story line, and am surprised Valve placed HL2 in the future in a oppressed city. (obviously a different setting then a underground top secret research facility)
from the moment you stepped off the train you knew the city was a powderkeg waiting to be set off, and you were the flame.
I don't want to talk more about it... you should see for yourself if you haven't.
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Heh, try adding in the <span style='color:red'>la la la la HEADCRABS</span>, the rollers, (blue rolling things) the helicopters, gunships, striders, turrets, combine tanks, and snipers. All of that and I'm not even near the end of the game, and all of which were "major enemies". I think it's fairly obvious why you're going out of your way to bash the game...
<span style='color:red'>(Sorry, I know its not really my place to edit posts but I figured some people might like to find details like that out for themselves, since I did <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ~Merkaba)</span>
The ending is crap sorry it was let say that you dont know there is going to be a hl3 the neding tells you notihng to further the story about teh combine all you see is the big mother alien thing and some how these combine are liek xen aliens and there was some sort of deal but want to really get into this game live it!
I just beat it a few minutes ago. It was an amazing game. I have a few complaints, but they're all very minor. It gave you the feeling that you were there, what you were doing mattered, etc. etc.
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edited November 2004
question: is the game spose to be this bright?
**********possible spoiler
when i came in this room the combine threw flares on the ground, im guessing so as to light up the room, but it already seems pretty bright. could someone explain this?
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I'm not floored by the graphics in the least. I mean It's pretty at times but it's not like HOLY CRAP THIS IS AMAZING. I mean the first time I played Doom 3 and it showed off it's tech I was like. Ok that's really damned cool. The only thing I thought was cool about HL2 tech wise was the physics. They were well done but making us do stupid puzzles and then Ravnholm? If I ever saw a tech demo level for physics that place is it.
I'm finding HL2 on easy to be moderately hard. Haven't tried hard mode, but frankly, that guy's gotta be playing the game tactically if he's doing it hard mode "easily"- which would still get him killed. I somehow doubt it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's true, but I remember back in the old days like Doom and Doom2, it actually took quite a big effort to beat the game on Hard Difficulty. Some of the map levels were HUGE with a load of baddies strategically placed, they didn't hold back at all when trying to challenge the players with the monster amounts and map difficulty.
Then again, I guess the advancement of the gaming engine and gaming graphics, it's probably a lot harder to create big maps like in the old days since they focus on quality instead of quantity.
The only part which was boring to me was the airboat, holy ****, that part was SO long.
Doom 3 sucked you in? I played it in pitch black with 7.1 speakers with all settings maxed and that game still didn't manage to suck me in, or even startle me. It was, how can I put this, boring once the initial shock value of "OMg ITZ D3wM wit 73h 1337 GRAPGIXZ!!!!111" wore off. Console survival horror and Doom gameplay plus technological limitations do not mix. One monster after another, same kind, over and over. No suspense, just fire away with your huge stockpile of ammo.
If any game managed to completely immerse me in recent memory, it was Halo 2. They said they wanted to make the gameplay and the story the same thing, and they suceeded. This may just be because I <3 the Halo story.
Oh yea, HL2 can range from very, very immersive (Ravenholm) to boring (...can't think of a level).
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I'm going to assume that you're talking about Shadowrun, and say "Damn Straight." That was a fun game.
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I'm going to assume that you're talking about Shadowrun, and say "Damn Straight." That was a fun game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dog is also a character in HL2... My new fav character is Lamar the headcrab <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Actually, from everything I've seen and heard, it's <i>Grigory</i>.
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I'm going to assume that you're talking about Shadowrun, and say "Damn Straight." That was a fun game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dog is also a character in HL2... My new fav character is Lamar the headcrab <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seconded. Lamar > all. Hell, Lamar > Barney + Kleiner + Gordon + Alyx, and those 4 together are > All - Lamar, so therefore Lamar > all. I love it in the lab when he (omgzor it r t3h spoilz0rz) tries to latch onto Barney, and then jumps behind the boxes and mooks up the teleporter (I dunno if "mooks" is a word, but if not, it is now).
Lamar rules.
i realy like the ending specialy how the gman kinda froze time and then proceeded to dust off alyx <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> the ending was very nicely done and something i definitly didnt expect to see
i dont see why all the reviews of hl2 said the story was bad im loving it if the half life series were books i would definitly read them
Doom 3 sucked you in? I played it in pitch black with 7.1 speakers with all settings maxed and that game still didn't manage to suck me in, or even startle me. It was, how can I put this, boring once the initial shock value of "OMg ITZ D3wM wit 73h 1337 GRAPGIXZ!!!!111" wore off. Console survival horror and Doom gameplay plus technological limitations do not mix. One monster after another, same kind, over and over. No suspense, just fire away with your huge stockpile of ammo.
If any game managed to completely immerse me in recent memory, it was Halo 2. They said they wanted to make the gameplay and the story the same thing, and they suceeded. This may just be because I <3 the Halo story.
Oh yea, HL2 can range from very, very immersive (Ravenholm) to boring (...can't think of a level).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It did and I got exactly what I wanted out of Doom 3. A dark scary game with good graphics. When I got HL2 I was expecting ground breaking revolutionary play. Massive outdoor environments. A good story. Awesome AI. And some open endedness. What I got was a rail shooter with horrible AI. Hell atleast doom 3 gave you a choice once how to go through an area.
I find it funny how you mention fighting the same monsters over and over. HL2 has 6 major enemies
3 Zombies, 2 combine, Antlions. And wandering from one post apocalyptic abandon building to the next fighting the same thing over and over gets pretty tedious if you ask me.
And to all of you proclaiming this game the best thing since sliced bread. Try running through it with minimal use of the gravity gun. The combat isn't fun in the least. The physics are the only saving grace of this game because the gameplay is to put it bluntly. Crap
Yeah and try playing Max Payne without the slow motion, it sucks! Also i played GTA without ever driving a car, i got bored so fast, so dissappointing!
What an ending......
Well, frankly, your arguement hasn't got a leg to stand on.
So sorry that you can't appreciate its superlative brilliance.
The ending also **** me off. I wanted to kill the G-man...
I was completly loving the game even before I got the gravity gun. Its atmosphere is amazing, the combat(without the gravity gun) is incredibly fun.
You're trying to call HL2 repetive? I don't really see any argument here, while Water Hazard was a bit drawn out, the fun I had on the level was worth it. It does a great job of giving you differant types of combat, (shooting combine, solving a puzzle, being attacked by a helicopter, swooping across water in an airboat)
Yes the physics engine is great fun, its not like the game only started getting fun once you got the gravity gun. I guess some people just can't stand agreeing with people and must argue for the sake of arguing.....
from the moment you stepped off the train you knew the city was a powderkeg waiting to be set off, and you were the flame.
I don't want to talk more about it... you should see for yourself if you haven't.
Heh, try adding in the <span style='color:red'>la la la la HEADCRABS</span>, the rollers, (blue rolling things) the helicopters, gunships, striders, turrets, combine tanks, and snipers. All of that and I'm not even near the end of the game, and all of which were "major enemies". I think it's fairly obvious why you're going out of your way to bash the game...
<span style='color:red'>(Sorry, I know its not really my place to edit posts but I figured some people might like to find details like that out for themselves, since I did <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ~Merkaba)</span>
Wow that was amazing but it made me ask more questions. Also i think that was only a tiny tiny part of the Combine army we saw.
Cant wait for HL3
and yeah it did seem a litte short but oh well! CANT WAIT FOR THE MODS!
"Oh and if you see Dr Breen, till him I said f*** you!"
SPELL CHECK! WOOT WOOT
**********possible spoiler
when i came in this room the combine threw flares on the ground, im guessing so as to light up the room, but it already seems pretty bright. could someone explain this?