I Think Im The Last....
<div class="IPBDescription">Pro-Government person in my school</div> Seriously i think im the only person in my school who is pro-government. Everyone in my school seems to hate Bush/Democracy. It might be just a fad or somewhat trying to be cool.
But i think its just wierd.
But i think its just wierd.
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Hilarious.
its just someone saying "man lookit bush hes a retard" and now everyone else does it....
quite annoying really
And why is it that whenever a liberal has a problem with something the government does they suddenly "hate democracy"?
its just someone saying "man lookit bush hes a retard" and now everyone else does it....
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Difference between me and those people. I HAVE reasons.
So, what do they want instead of a democractic government? An anarchist society, even though they realize that wouldn't work in the area of international relations? Communism, which is a fantastic form of government, except for the unfortunate fact that you need perfect people for it to work?
I'll admit my ideas aren't as well defined as I'ed like them to be, but its better than the Democrats at my school saying Bush is an idiot why vote for him? And the Republicans saying that they like his stance on National Defense with out backing up that statement with facts.
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Actually according to my not so old college text books (yea I never sold my back), the EPA investigates 300% more cases a year under a democratic president than it does under a republican.
These cases are usually the ones that involve large coprations illegaly dumping chemicals etc into the environment rather than properly disposing of them.
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Ignorance is bliss...
I'm not in school right now, but my friends actually know what the issues are before they make a choice, unlike the millions of other Americans who voted.
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Maybe she didn't feel like talking politics, charmy-boy? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
its just someone saying "man lookit bush hes a retard" and now everyone else does it....
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Difference between me and those people. I HAVE reasons.
So, what do they want instead of a democractic government? An anarchist society, even though they realize that wouldn't work in the area of international relations? Communism, which is a fantastic form of government, except for the unfortunate fact that you need perfect people for it to work? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
In Soviet Russia, perfect people have YOU!
You can make perfect people. As long as you RULE WITH AN IRON FIST! MWAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!
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Actually according to my not so old college text books (yea I never sold my back), the EPA investigates 300% more cases a year under a democratic president than it does under a republican.
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that's because Dems crack down on these illegal activities, while GOPs don't care and don't even investigate, not because industries suddenly get 300% dirtier as soon as a dem gets in office...
Damn, wouldn't it be cool to have a government that was really democraticand not just one of the euro-american plutocracies dressed up as "the people's will". Seriously, the current western government model has very little in common with the intent of democracy. We just keep holding up an illusion of everything being peachy and fine and everyone being equal and having equal opportunities.
The good news is that western democracy will eventually go the way of the dinosaur, just like communism, autocracy and many others have already gone.
Love your country, fear your government. There is a huge difference between supporting your country and supporting those in charge of it. Assuming that any party or group is flawless is a giant leap toward destruction.
And why is it that when someone actually thinks that something the government does is a good idea, they're a "Retarded Redneck"?
i wonder how the election would have turned out if they let high school kids vote O_O
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Just about every single rapper/singer to ever talk about politics is pro Kerry. He'd easily win.
Myself? I find it funny that this time there was a huge campaign to vote, a huge campaign to research your candidate, the such- and oddly enough, it didn't happen.
BTW: I love democracy. But a republic(what we are)? Thats bull.
I am sick and tired of Kerry supporters / Anti Bush people being labeled as hating democracy, or as being Unpatriotic.
The truly unpatriotic choice of actions, is to support an administration that has actively trashed our economy, invaded another nation under false pretenses, and dragged our nations good name through the mud in the international community.
And yet, Bush was re-elected. Im not angry, Im dissapointed, dissapointed that so many were weak willed enough to be fooled into be supporting an administration actively detrimental to the good of the nation, and the world.
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Omg, I would want to be in that school too. I just hate democracy. I hate money. I hate todays world.
But I don't support any other country. I don't like this state system. I don't like borders. It is the mark of violence.
And I also hate people who make their ovn lives so complicated with all those rules what they don't really need. We are undeveloping, developing back.
And why is it that whenever a liberal has a problem with something the government does they suddenly "hate democracy"? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why do you hate the Patriot so much? Do you have something to hide?
Personally, I love my privacy, but if the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT wants to tap my phone calls, the only thing they are going to know is that I love my girlfriend very much.
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Why do you hate the Patriot so much? Do you have something to hide?
Personally, I love my privacy, but if the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT wants to tap my phone calls, the only thing they are going to know is that I love my girlfriend very much. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, I do have something to hide. I have my life. My life is private, I should be the only person that knows everything about it. If I chose to tell people about my life that should be my choice, not the governments choice, not anyone else's.
For God's sake, the point of the first post was that all those people were following a fad instead of being straight Democrat because they knew the issues.
There is a difference between the ignorant high school kids who choose one side because it's the "cool" thing to do and the people who know the situation and really believe in one side of the issue. That being the case, why the hell did this turn into a Left vs. Right arguement??
It's kids like those who make me glad people under 18 can't vote.
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Don't worry about, the majority of america is not stupid like the rest of your school
go bush go captialism go democracy
The Green Party equals democracy.
Reasons to hate Bush: <a href='http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/bush/' target='_blank'>http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/bush/</a>
Any one of those is horrible enough, but combined they cannot be discredited.
A Bush supporter mentioned earlier that they didn't mind the government listening to their phone calls. This struck me as particularly ironic because these are the same kind of liberties fascist regimes have taken with their citizens. Hitler, Lenin, even Saddam have notoriously violated their citizens' privacy in exactly the same way the Bush administration wants to. It amazes me that people don't see this irony. The thing that has traditionally made the U.S. the "good guys" is our protection of these liberties. When we give them up to the government, we lose the right to claim that we are "free", and we certainly lose the right to indict others for not being "free." Perhaps you think that the definition of freedom is being able to buy a Big Mac at McDonalds and buy a Benz as soon as you get a job with a huge corporations? You misassociate wealth with freedom, and what's worse, when you place a premium like that on wealth you hurt the environment and lose perspective on real issues. The US is the richest country in the world, yet many people still don't believe they have enough. This is a fundamental problem with our mentality as a nation--greed and a deadened sense of morality have come to characterize our interactions with the rest of the world.
It's also common for Bush supporters (I refuse to say conservatives because Bush has actually warped and shunned the positive aspects of the Republican party, see <a href='http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html)' target='_blank'>http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html)</a> to say that liberals "hate democracy", "hate the government", or "hate america." This is a lie, and a particularly ignorant one at that. If these blind fools would take the time to peer into a history book, or even a dictionary, they would see that democracy is based on dissent and voicing one's opinions about how things should be. People that say "if you don't like it, leave" are (I hope involuntarily) advocating a totalitarian society. A society in which no dissent leads to the government's absolute power and any differing thought is crushed or driven out. These are also the same people who make sure to put flags in every window ( <a href='http://www.sephardicstudies.org/nazi-krakow-main-square.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.sephardicstudies.org/nazi-krakow-main-square.jpg</a> ) and dismiss progressive ideas as "liberal," as if it were a dirty word ( <a href='http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=58' target='_blank'>http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/colum...ead.html?col=58</a> ). It wasn't, actually, until a Republican campaign painted it as such. Let's look at some of history's liberal agendas: freeing the slaves, giving women the vote, the New Deal (and all the social programs we enjoy today that go with it--social security, anyone?), protecting the environment (you may not think you need it now, but wait till the sea level rises). Can anyone name me any great conservative accomplishments that compare nearly as much? In fact, conservatives have always fought to impede the changes that we take for granted and enjoy today. I agree that some degree of this is necessary, to keep the progression of human civilization at a managable rate, but blind ignorance is neither necessary nor beneficial. Bush IS an idiot. His role model, Ronald Reagan, is responsible for the modern federal deficit as we know it. Reagan ran his campaign on the promise of reducing federal spending--instead, he diverted all of it and more to the military (in an age when the world SHOULD be disarming, this isn't ancient Rome, folks), and stuck us with the economic crisis we face today. But all this rational thought is obscured by blind faith that the government MUST be good. The truth is just too terrible for these people to face.
I need to take a break. I get disgusted stating the obvious over and over.
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You are confusing aristocracy, a system of values based on social status and titles, with plutocracy, a system based on the equation money=power.
The Bush family and George W.'s friends are not aristocrats - in fact you'd be hard pressed to find a person qualifying as a real member of aristocracy on the entire continent of North America. What Bush, Kerry and in fact all major league politicians in the States and in Europe represent is pure plutocracy where money is status and the means of attaining what one requires. For example, the owner of the Barrick gold mining company (surprisingly, a canadian fellow) seems to wield immense power in the States and abroad through his impressive political connections, but he's just a rich scam artist, not a person born into nobility.
It is ironic that while plutocracy equals the power of the few over the many, it is a more democratic system than aristocracy. This is simply because one can become rich and thus powerful, but one can not become - except for the fake rock'n roll Sirs of England - a member of nobility. One must be born into the caste. This doesn't mean that either of the systems would be in any way more fair to the common people than the other.
Even here in Finland we are not safe from the allure and effect of money. While our government did the right thing when it finally decided that all donations to any candidate in any election must be reported if asked, the parties are still exempt from this rule. This means that corporations are still free to pour money into the parties' coffers without any fear of being exposed as supporters of certain members of the political elite.
Damn, wouldn't it be cool to have a government that was really democraticand not just one of the euro-american plutocracies dressed up as "the people's will". Seriously, the current western government model has very little in common with the intent of democracy. We just keep holding up an illusion of everything being peachy and fine and everyone being equal and having equal opportunities.
The good news is that western democracy will eventually go the way of the dinosaur, just like communism, autocracy and many others have already gone. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Laughooooo.
The USA is a Republic, thank the forefathers. Democracy is simply mob rule anyways.
But yeah, it definitely is a fad among non-voting young people to simply hate Bush, instead of investigating both sides of the coin. Thanks to crappy tours spreading ignorant messages, we can now say that the average rock loving child is actually a complete political tool, made by political tools. They must know that, and don't vote <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->