yup! but the G36 is also a compact weapon for house to house fights. There was a short film in the breaking news 2 years ago where german soldiers have had a fight with some afghan rebels in afghanistan. They showed the fight on TV for a few seconds and there was acually a german soldier with an G36 fireing from a corner on that afghan car. and it didn't seem to me that he's got any problems with handeling the G36.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Lt.Realness+Nov 11 2004, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Realness @ Nov 11 2004, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yup! but the G36 is also a compact weapon for house to house fights. There was a short film in the breaking news 2 years ago where german soldiers have had a fight with some afghan rebels in afghanistan. They showed the fight on TV for a few seconds and there was acually a german soldier with an G36 fireing from a corner on that afghan car. and it didn't seem to me that he's got any problems with handeling the G36. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that's not surprising or anything.. if you're trained enough with a weapon, then you shouldn't have any problems handling it.
by the way,the G36 is not a compact weapon. the G36 and M16 are both just about 39in long.
the G36K and C models are the compact ones... just the same as the M4A1 is a compact M16 system.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The M4's accuracy makes the scope's added weight a questionable decision. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, it doesn't.
Both M4 and the newer M-16's have rails for accessories, and every one of them should have an optic of some sort on them. They should all have cans too, but that's another topic. We're rather late on joining the optics bandwagon, and I'm glad we're finally starting to get the idea.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I wouldn't want to have my head sitting up there long enough to look through a scope. Rarely do I use a scope when firing it requires too exact of an alignment to get a good view and makes you less mobile/agile. In addition that whole time you are exposed to the enemy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We're not talking 10x zoom here. The ACOGs and aimpoints (among others) are optics that allow you to aquire the target and engage even faster than with iron sights. Snap shooting is faster, not slower with these sights.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yup! but the G36 is also a compact weapon for house to house fights.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem is as I mentioned earlier, with the folding stock you have two options; folded and extended. You either have a long rifle, or a glorified pistol. The telescoping stock on the M4 is better IMO, because you can adjust the length, allowing you to shoulder the weapon comfortably regardless of stature, whether or not you have body armor on or not, and so forth.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1 G36, 1 M4 with M203 launcher, a machine gun, and either a G36 or fairly standard M4 depending on expect distance of engagements would be a good mix. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Burncycle+Nov 11 2004, 09:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Nov 11 2004, 09:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The M4's accuracy makes the scope's added weight a questionable decision. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, it doesn't.
Both M4 and the newer M-16's have rails for accessories, and every one of them should have an optic of some sort on them. They should all have cans too, but that's another topic. We're rather late on joining the optics bandwagon, and I'm glad we're finally starting to get the idea.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I wouldn't want to have my head sitting up there long enough to look through a scope. Rarely do I use a scope when firing it requires too exact of an alignment to get a good view and makes you less mobile/agile. In addition that whole time you are exposed to the enemy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We're not talking 10x zoom here. The ACOGs and aimpoints (among others) are optics that allow you to aquire the target and engage even faster than with iron sights. Snap shooting is faster, not slower with these sights. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was under the definate impression that snap shots weren't a big part of modern infantry engagements, so I wasn't taking it into consideration. Lots of ammo gets expended.
Regardless, I would much rather have a better base gun than the m4 with optics.
Out of those 3 guns, I'd probably go with the G36 as I'm a fan of H&K. But if I had to trust one gun with my life, I'd ask for an AK-47. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase?
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics?
<!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution...
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it.
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Another person who believes in that John Titor junk? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Nov 11 2004, 10:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Nov 11 2004, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yep. <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>it doesn't actually make "assault weapons" available, in any way, shape, or form.</b></span>
<!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Another person who believes in that John Titor junk? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No. jesus man what do you take me for? However, the way american polotics is going currently I wouldn't discount the possibility of a revolution within the next 2 decades. Especially if the PATRIOTACT II gets passed.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sounds like you know what youre talking about, you in the forces?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not yet.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was under the definate impression that snap shots weren't a big part of modern infantry engagements, so I wasn't taking it into consideration.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In MOUT, targets can be fleeting. Being able to shoulder, aim, and fire as quickly and accurately as possible is important.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Burncycle+Nov 12 2004, 02:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Nov 12 2004, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You've got it. Silly ban.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I guess...
<!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Nov 12 2004, 01:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Nov 12 2004, 01:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can get a supersoaker with an extended clip <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Nov 12 2004, 01:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Nov 12 2004, 01:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 12 2004, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 12 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got an offtopic question for the real gun nuts out there. Now that the assault wepons ban has elapsed, what kind of kickass weponry can I now legally purchase? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And it can have a cleaning rod.
And pistols can have more than like an 8 or 9 round magazine in california..
*leers at fully decked out Mac-90 Sporter, and 15 round Berreta magazine laying idley in the corner*
<!--QuoteBegin-taboofires+Nov 12 2004, 11:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Nov 12 2004, 11:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You really can't get much better comparison than idle banter without firing all of the weapons yourself, in a variety of situations. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> *Ding*
I can get a hold of most US military small arms to test fire them but getting foreign weapons is a tedious process. Though I must say some of the comments have piqued my interest in the g36.
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that's not surprising or anything.. if you're trained enough with a weapon, then you shouldn't have any problems handling it.
by the way,the G36 is not a compact weapon. the G36 and M16 are both just about 39in long.
the G36K and C models are the compact ones... just the same as the M4A1 is a compact M16 system.
No, it doesn't.
Both M4 and the newer M-16's have rails for accessories, and every one of them should have an optic of some sort on them. They should all have cans too, but that's another topic. We're rather late on joining the optics bandwagon, and I'm glad we're finally starting to get the idea.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I wouldn't want to have my head sitting up there long enough to look through a scope. Rarely do I use a scope when firing it requires too exact of an alignment to get a good view and makes you less mobile/agile. In addition that whole time you are exposed to the enemy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We're not talking 10x zoom here. The ACOGs and aimpoints (among others) are optics that allow you to aquire the target and engage even faster than with iron sights. Snap shooting is faster, not slower with these sights.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yup! but the G36 is also a compact weapon for house to house fights.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem is as I mentioned earlier, with the folding stock you have two options; folded and extended. You either have a long rifle, or a glorified pistol. The telescoping stock on the M4 is better IMO, because you can adjust the length, allowing you to shoulder the weapon comfortably regardless of stature, whether or not you have body armor on or not, and so forth.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1 G36, 1 M4 with M203 launcher, a machine gun, and either a G36 or fairly standard M4 depending on expect distance of engagements would be a good mix. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It would be a logistical PITA.
And I retract my previous statement, I've fired a C7 on a couple of occasions and i'll back Burncycle up on the practicality of optics.
No, it doesn't.
Both M4 and the newer M-16's have rails for accessories, and every one of them should have an optic of some sort on them. They should all have cans too, but that's another topic. We're rather late on joining the optics bandwagon, and I'm glad we're finally starting to get the idea.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I wouldn't want to have my head sitting up there long enough to look through a scope. Rarely do I use a scope when firing it requires too exact of an alignment to get a good view and makes you less mobile/agile. In addition that whole time you are exposed to the enemy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We're not talking 10x zoom here. The ACOGs and aimpoints (among others) are optics that allow you to aquire the target and engage even faster than with iron sights. Snap shooting is faster, not slower with these sights. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was under the definate impression that snap shots weren't a big part of modern infantry engagements, so I wasn't taking it into consideration. Lots of ammo gets expended.
Regardless, I would much rather have a better base gun than the m4 with optics.
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics?
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution...
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it.
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another person who believes in that John Titor junk? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yep. <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>it doesn't actually make "assault weapons" available, in any way, shape, or form.</b></span>
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another person who believes in that John Titor junk? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No. jesus man what do you take me for? However, the way american polotics is going currently I wouldn't discount the possibility of a revolution within the next 2 decades. Especially if the PATRIOTACT II gets passed.
Not yet.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was under the definate impression that snap shots weren't a big part of modern infantry engagements, so I wasn't taking it into consideration.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In MOUT, targets can be fleeting. Being able to shoulder, aim, and fire as quickly and accurately as possible is important.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You've got it. Silly ban....
You've got it. Silly ban.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I guess...
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can get a supersoaker with an extended clip <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Planning on a Hunting excursion, with some new automatics? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I just think it'd be cool to have, take out and fire every once in a while, you know. And I'm sure it will come in handy during the revolution... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can puchase the same fireams you could before the ban. Only now you can put a bayonet on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And it can have a cleaning rod.
And pistols can have more than like an 8 or 9 round magazine in california..
*leers at fully decked out Mac-90 Sporter, and 15 round Berreta magazine laying idley in the corner*
*Ding*
I can get a hold of most US military small arms to test fire them but getting foreign weapons is a tedious process. Though I must say some of the comments have piqued my interest in the g36.