<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 04:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 04:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>Assuming</i> HL2 will ever get released. Which it won't. Why do you build yourself up, to get brought down?
** Eagerly awaiting next delayed release date **
I mean, if HL2 gets released, what will I have to look forward to? Duke Nukem: Forever? Now that's pushing it.
I just can't imagine what it would be like to have HL2 in my hands. I don't think it's possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You'd better back that with examples of delays perpetrated by Vivendi, because Valve can't delay the game now, even if they wanted too. If the game was still in valve's hands I would agree with you compleatly, but developers almost never hold back a game once its gold, expecially something with as much publicity as HL2.
<!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Nov 3 2004, 05:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Nov 3 2004, 05:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would predict about 30% of all mods (there are a lot) actually getting a working alpha and then about 2% becoming popular and well played.
2% being 5 to 10 mods. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd be surprized if it even got to that many. Look at unreal tourny, it had a major mod rush, but there really isn't a decent, highly played, mod in the whole bunch. Red orchestra is the only serious mod that I would say "made it" for UT. Making mods for the new engines requires a lot more professionalism then it did for the old engines I would bet that only a few well established mod teams really get anything that resembles a worth it to play, working mod.
Still, I can't wait for "The Pit" or "Zombie Panic Sourse". Oh, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the espionage team come up with.
I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers.
you got my hopes up with the words "fricking finally..." now I walk away again, post WHEN IT COMES OUT GOD DAMN IT <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 11:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 11:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was just saying how it doesn't feel like HL2 can every be a reality for me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why? The original HL was delayed about as much.
And after the sdk failed to get released in, june I think it was? it has always been this way("going to be released around the same time as HL2 itself"), this is nothing new.
This is great, now hopefully we can get some mods going relatively fast!
Hopefully the creme de la creme of the mod-teams will also start making new mods for hl2 (NS:S, TS:S and so on).
I cant wait to get my hands on this <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-sawce+Nov 3 2004, 06:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sawce @ Nov 3 2004, 06:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now how many of these "HL2 mods" which are already planned are going to actually make a game?
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.terminus-discord.com' target='_blank'>Terminus Discord</a> is getting made <s>(forums down temporarily right now)</s>.
I hope Valve really made the porting really easy, that might make NS: Source a bit closer to a reality <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished.
<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Nov 3 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 3 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <img src='http://www.prisonwall.org/postcard/pictures/truth.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Nov 3 2004, 09:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Nov 3 2004, 09:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope Valve really made the porting really easy, that might make NS: Source a bit closer to a reality <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You can download the porting dev suit. All you do is put the original mod into the folder, and press the big red PORT button, and *POOF* HL2 Mod
<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Nov 3 2004, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 3 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> because the open source community doesn't get anything done...
<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Nov 4 2004, 05:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 4 2004, 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.linux.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.linux.org/</a>
I'm not saying it still wouldn't take a lot of organisational work, but the only way it definitely won't happen is if nobody tries.
antifreezeThe guy with the goods!Join Date: 2003-05-12Member: 16232Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 10:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>Assuming</i> HL2 will ever get released. Which it won't. Why do you build yourself up, to get brought down?
** Eagerly awaiting next delayed release date **
I mean, if HL2 gets released, what will I have to look forward to? Duke Nukem: Forever? Now that's pushing it.
I just can't imagine what it would be like to have HL2 in my hands. I don't think it's possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think it's gonna be on time. This just appeared on steam so valve are ready, but they forgot to give there window a new name.
Even though I have no clue how to code or do anything like that (I can map, nothing else) I might take a few peeks at this SDK and see what it's like. It sounds interesting.
<!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Nov 3 2004, 10:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Nov 3 2004, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even though I have no clue how to code or do anything like that (I can map, nothing else) I might take a few peeks at this SDK and see what it's like. It sounds interesting. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I would guess its pretty much as intresting to you as any other million lines of random text then...
<!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Nov 3 2004, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Nov 3 2004, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Nov 3 2004, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 3 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> because the open source community doesn't get anything done... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hehe, God bless open source projects.
<!--QuoteBegin-sawce+Nov 3 2004, 04:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sawce @ Nov 3 2004, 04:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now how many of these "HL2 mods" which are already planned are going to actually make a game?
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Woooh! ZP!
<!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Nov 4 2004, 02:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Nov 4 2004, 02:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sawce+Nov 3 2004, 04:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sawce @ Nov 3 2004, 04:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now how many of these "HL2 mods" which are already planned are going to actually make a game?
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Woooh! ZP! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Acctually, thinking about it a little more, I'm fairly sure several HL mods will port with reasonable poularity, certainly HI, NS, Sven Coop, TS, ZP, The pit, and probably some more (sorry if I missed some, I'm only a level 27 mod fanboi, I don't know all the good ones yet)
I am excited about some of the new mods, but I honestly don't see too many of them becomeing all that popular when all is said and done.
<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 07:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Nov 4 2004, 05:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 4 2004, 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 3 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm waiting for somebody to put into effect an 'open source community mod' where code is posted, models are made, etc etc by the community at large, and a game is developed by all these contributors and assembled by a small group of administrators. Because there are an abundance of ideas, but the effort and dedication needed to make an entire mod is often too much for just a small team of amateur developers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.linux.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.linux.org/</a>
I'm not saying it still wouldn't take a lot of organisational work, but the only way it definitely won't happen is if nobody tries. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> KFS has a point, though, think about it. How many different linux distros can you name off the top of your head? How many total do you think there are?
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** Eagerly awaiting next delayed release date **
I mean, if HL2 gets released, what will I have to look forward to? Duke Nukem: Forever? Now that's pushing it.
I just can't imagine what it would be like to have HL2 in my hands. I don't think it's possible.
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one.
** Eagerly awaiting next delayed release date **
I mean, if HL2 gets released, what will I have to look forward to? Duke Nukem: Forever? Now that's pushing it.
I just can't imagine what it would be like to have HL2 in my hands. I don't think it's possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You'd better back that with examples of delays perpetrated by Vivendi, because Valve can't delay the game now, even if they wanted too. If the game was still in valve's hands I would agree with you compleatly, but developers almost never hold back a game once its gold, expecially something with as much publicity as HL2.
2% being 5 to 10 mods.
2% being 5 to 10 mods. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd be surprized if it even got to that many. Look at unreal tourny, it had a major mod rush, but there really isn't a decent, highly played, mod in the whole bunch. Red orchestra is the only serious mod that I would say "made it" for UT. Making mods for the new engines requires a lot more professionalism then it did for the old engines I would bet that only a few well established mod teams really get anything that resembles a worth it to play, working mod.
Still, I can't wait for "The Pit" or "Zombie Panic Sourse". Oh, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the espionage team come up with.
Why? The original HL was delayed about as much.
And after the sdk failed to get released in, june I think it was? it has always been this way("going to be released around the same time as HL2 itself"), this is nothing new.
Hopefully the creme de la creme of the mod-teams will also start making new mods for hl2 (NS:S, TS:S and so on).
I cant wait to get my hands on this <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.terminus-discord.com' target='_blank'>Terminus Discord</a> is getting made <s>(forums down temporarily right now)</s>.
Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished.
Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<img src='http://www.prisonwall.org/postcard/pictures/truth.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
You can download the porting dev suit. All you do is put the original mod into the folder, and press the big red PORT button, and *POOF* HL2 Mod
(I wish)
Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
because the open source community doesn't get anything done...
Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.linux.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.linux.org/</a>
I'm not saying it still wouldn't take a lot of organisational work, but the only way it definitely won't happen is if nobody tries.
** Eagerly awaiting next delayed release date **
I mean, if HL2 gets released, what will I have to look forward to? Duke Nukem: Forever? Now that's pushing it.
I just can't imagine what it would be like to have HL2 in my hands. I don't think it's possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think it's gonna be on time. This just appeared on steam so valve are ready, but they forgot to give there window a new name.
And you can count on Espionage being one of the few mods that will actually be worked on. Assuming I can find Quad. :P
I would guess its pretty much as intresting to you as any other million lines of random text then...
Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
because the open source community doesn't get anything done... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hehe, God bless open source projects.
hip hip hurray!! hip hip hurray!!
oh and rocket crowbar
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Woooh! ZP!
I'm guessing three: Insurgency, ZP will port (if that counts), and I'll be optimistic and say one other random one. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Woooh! ZP! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Acctually, thinking about it a little more, I'm fairly sure several HL mods will port with reasonable poularity, certainly HI, NS, Sven Coop, TS, ZP, The pit, and probably some more (sorry if I missed some, I'm only a level 27 mod fanboi, I don't know all the good ones yet)
I am excited about some of the new mods, but I honestly don't see too many of them becomeing all that popular when all is said and done.
Handling a small team with a single direction/main idea is tough enough - a large guided team even more so. A large community effort like this would be even worse. It'd collapse into endless bickering and soap opera mod antics quicker than most. Even if it didn't, the resulting mish-mash of "wouldn't this be cool..." ideas would make baby jesus cry. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The more people you have, the tighter your organizational structure needs to be to get anything accomplished. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.linux.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.linux.org/</a>
I'm not saying it still wouldn't take a lot of organisational work, but the only way it definitely won't happen is if nobody tries. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
KFS has a point, though, think about it. How many different linux distros can you name off the top of your head? How many total do you think there are?