Combat Taking Over Ns ?

project_demonproject_demon Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18103Members
<div class="IPBDescription">lost the motivation to play Classic ns?</div> I don't know about others, but personally, I lost motivation and interest to play ns classic, for some reason I find combat much more fun, may be its cause you get to kill faster and u have a faster access to all kind of weapons. Lately I’ve been avoiding joining any server that is on an ns map and not co map

I'm not saying that ns classic is bad or anything, it just seems to me that combat is much more fun or should I say, interesting then classic ns...More likely, Combat is taking over Classic

What do u guys think?
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    I think people play what is fun. I agree with you - I find NS classic very boring. I do not like having <b>my</b> level of fun determined by my teammates. Not to mention the fact that classic NS is just like a boring deathmatch becuase you have to wait for the commander to drop you goodies.

    Maybe if NS classic had some sort of direction, instead of pointless battles, in pointless locations, faught by pointless rambo's, like myself. If NS classic's gameplay had some sort of direction or structure then it would be much more fun.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    It's just because it's different. Before combat was out, I played ns constantly for months on end... Then I started to get bored with it, and combat appeared - it was some thing new and different, and as said, it lets you play your own game instead of how some one dictates upon you. However, CO is starting to get dull and repetetive, and i'm finding classic more enjoyable again.

    it just goes in circles :-)
  • project_demonproject_demon Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18103Members
    edited October 2004
    Yes and not to mention all the noobs coming in right now... makes classic even suckier, Old classic games before B4 came out where kinda more fun cause every one knew the game perfectly and they knew what they were doing and what they are suppose to do (work as a team).Now however, it's practically impossible to get your team to work as a "Team", all you see is people ramboing around and getting owned (some even by gorgs...)

    I don't want to get to the point of talking about commanders...just wana say 2 thing bout it now,
    -Less and less people (experienced) want to be com
    -more and more noobs are going com
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    the only way to have fun pubbing NS classic is to find a server where everyone or just about everyone listens and uses team work. Then its way more fun than CO. I only play NS on one or two servers, usulay just one server. If I wanna play CO just about any server will do. but for NS i want a good game. A game where its 20 mins into the game and you STILL dont know who is gonna win. I played 3 40min + games yesterday where it was just back and forth till the last 5 mins of the game
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    edited October 2004
    I do not play Combat too often since, after all, it is just another shoot'em'up among many. If I wanted one, I'd take the new Counter-Strike or Unreal Tournament. Yea, several NS Classic games are a bit boring since you usually can tell after 5 mins who will win and the rest is just useless struggling.

    Just wish there was another game with a similar mix of commanding and FPS... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    classic is fun (on pubs) if you play with good people that talk and interact as a team, not as some random server-goers.

    combat is fun if there's someone u know well playing with you, and not too much people & lag. i'd say above 7vs7 & 100 ping, co becomes pretty unbearable.
  • MaianMaian Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14069Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    I'm finding both classic and combat boring now. Combat is rather repetitive and classic is frustrating to play as aliens. I hope beta 6 will make things fun again.
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    also. Try going to #nspug on gamesurge and join a pug game, its way more fun for ns_classic since you get people who know how to play
  • project_demonproject_demon Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18103Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gecko God Of DOOOM+Oct 28 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gecko God Of DOOOM @ Oct 28 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the only way to have fun pubbing NS classic is to find a server where everyone or just about everyone listens and uses team work. Then its way more fun than CO. I only play NS on one or two servers, usulay just one server. If I wanna play CO just about any server will do. but for NS i want a good game. A game where its 20 mins into the game and you STILL dont know who is gonna win. I played 3 40min + games yesterday where it was just back and forth till the last 5 mins of the game <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ya I agree, Classic ns is fun on certain servers, and these are what you can call "Rare servers" there aren't a lot of them...

    The moment where no one is using his microphone (specially com) every thing is gone... cause writing messages takes 2 much time, even if it's just a small thing, it could cost your team a lot... I’ve seen many aliens dying because they were alerting their team of an enemy presence in their hive.

    Therefore, I have to say that most of the time, you have more fun playing combat then Classic.
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Since I'm into strategy, I have more fun in classic. That's about it.
  • Commie_SpyCommie_Spy Join Date: 2004-09-11 Member: 31627Members
    i hate combat... i only play if the classic server i play on is full...

    combat is ridiculous - the amount of new players that flock to combat because of it's easy to learn gameplay is ridiculous. I can't stand the lack of teamplay with combat.

    classic is amazing - i love being marines and turing the game around by beacon rushing a hive when the aliens have the edge... i love being aliens and having all the rts on the map - and having your hive being beaconed rush... i love long games where your the commander and your marines work together and keep pressuring rts and whatnot - and at the end they congratulate you on a meaningless game that means the world for those 30 minutes that your commanding... classic is fun - and will always be...

    <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->... classic is where its at...
  • Bo_SelectaBo_Selecta Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9374Members, Constellation
    I used to HATE combat... until I actually played it :/

    Combat is like a Siege map, mindless fun between the normal NS maps ... but not the Real Deal <i>tm</i> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ToboldTobold Join Date: 2003-06-16 Member: 17405Members
    ive much prefer ns_ maps to co_, always have, always will.
    Its just opinion, i find it extremely dull being blown apart by thousands of fast respawning skulks xenociding, or being destroyed by grenades spewed forth onto the hive from jetpackers above.
    ns_ games are much more fun (albeit only the right server) because its tactically challenging, and different each time.
    To each his own
  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
    I find the game Natural-Selection boring. I prefer CS:S now. CO is too easy and repetitive, and NS is too boring and the players are too stupid.
  • eXoeXo Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23404Members
    Combat Taking Over Ns ?

    I think it is there aint the same teamplay on public like it was before :/
    So pepuls start playing combat insted. "1 mans army"
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Oct 28 2004, 03:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Oct 28 2004, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To each his own. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well said.

    Personally I never like combat and seriosuly doubt I ever will. If they got rid of ns_ then I'm out of here because personally that's all I care about.

    If you want to play Team Deathcmatch, try CS, DoD, or TFC. They're all popular and fun.
  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    oh my...I knew that this was supposed to happen..hopefully the're not many players who think like this. If there are, we've a problem..this mod could just become like cs <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Bait_BoyBait_Boy Join Date: 2004-05-14 Member: 28672Members
    I like both

    But I prefer classic more because it's what I learned back in 1.04
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    NS: Classic would have a lot more players if it was somewhat more balanced and fun like it was in previous versions, like 2.01 and 1.03 (when I first started playing). I mean, what's the point of classic when I can play a 15 minute game of combat on a great server like =PT=? After all, classic is balanced 6 vs 6 for like 20 minutes right now. Give me 90 minutes of great gaming like it used to be!

    Combat is taking over because its simpler and more fun than Classic in the current build. It should always be simpler, but I know Classic can be much more rewarding to play than Combat. Once they slow the RTS aspect down and establish a better balance between marines and aliens, I think that Classic will start attracting far more players.
  • bliNkbliNk Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21422Members
    NS gameplay is what makes the game what it is, it's why we are all here enjoying this game.

    CO is some useless addition to attract the mindless hordes of CS'ers that eventually spill over into our NS games and refuse to listen or learn and ruin the game.

    As soon as a CO map comes on I leave the server, I've almost forgotten it exists.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I love ns_ maps. Their wonderful.

    But co is a nice spice for something between few friends.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt.Realness+Oct 28 2004, 05:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Realness @ Oct 28 2004, 05:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh my...I knew that this was supposed to happen..hopefully the're not many players who think like this. If there are, we've a problem..this mod could just become like cs <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been saying it. I've been saying it. Haven't I been warnign about that? Someone pull up a thread with me bitching and arguing against incorporating combat.

    Damned sad if you ask me. We've traded out this mod to having shorter games and the idea of a "bridge." A fanciful rainbow bridge of wonder to help CS jerk learn to play NS. Wheeeeeeee! H4x h4x h4x Omg teh eh da shiznite! The whole thing about a "bridge" was: because we are going to do it and you can't stop us hahaha. Seriously, people <s>come</s> came to NS because it was unique and different and cool SciFi-ish with and RTS aspect.

    "Combat taking over NS?" Ha! Sounds about as intelligent (actually lack of) as:
    "TFC is dying"

    Is it laziness, stupidity, n00bs (newbies are good because they want to learn which is the contrast between newbies and n00bs, in otherword n00b are ignorant and don't want/try to learn)? Who knows? But it's ticking my defenses off what ever it is.

    I hate brat clans and CS kiddies... It ruined CS, I'm goign to try damn hard not to let it happen to NS.

    PS: Can you tell that I'm PO-ed?
  • Axel_StoneAxel_Stone Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18993Members, Constellation
  • MrGunnerMrGunner Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11757Members, Constellation
    I have spurts where I'll play nothing but combat for a week, but it's not as fun. I get a much larger sense of accomplishment when I win in a game of classic. It's just too easy to win in combat, while in classic I have a team of idiots that I have to coerce into doing something actually intelligent. Far more of a challenge.
  • JikxJikx Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3563Members
    I only play Combat because Classic is so very stuffed in australian servers... 95% marine wins, sitting for minutes waiting for respawn.
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    I'm a NS player at heart, and I would love to play nothing but NS, but there are only a few servers where I don't ping horribly and of those servers there's usually only one playing NS at any given time.

    It's depressing. =[
  • Red_GhostRed_Ghost Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15007Members
    Obviously those of you who like combat more than classic are not
    1: good
    2: in a clan
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 28 2004, 11:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 28 2004, 11:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Lt.Realness+Oct 28 2004, 05:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Realness @ Oct 28 2004, 05:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh my...I knew that this was supposed to happen..hopefully the're not many players who think like this. If there are, we've a problem..this mod could just become like cs <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been saying it. I've been saying it. Haven't I been warnign about that? Someone pull up a thread with me bitching and arguing against incorporating combat.

    Damned sad if you ask me. We've traded out this mod to having shorter games and the idea of a "bridge." A fanciful rainbow bridge of wonder to help CS jerk learn to play NS. Wheeeeeeee! H4x h4x h4x Omg teh eh da shiznite! The whole thing about a "bridge" was: because we are going to do it and you can't stop us hahaha. Seriously, people <s>come</s> came to NS because it was unique and different and cool SciFi-ish with and RTS aspect.

    "Combat taking over NS?" Ha! Sounds about as intelligent (actually lack of) as:
    "TFC is dying"

    Is it laziness, stupidity, n00bs (newbies are good because they want to learn which is the contrast between newbies and n00bs, in otherword n00b are ignorant and don't want/try to learn)? Who knows? But it's ticking my defenses off what ever it is.

    I hate brat clans and CS kiddies... It ruined CS, I'm goign to try damn hard not to let it happen to NS.

    PS: Can you tell that I'm PO-ed? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah! You warned us! Damn combat -- only thing keeping half the player base coming back to NS -- damn it to hell!

    CO is evil! I mean, its not like its more popular than Classic or anything -- its not like its the only reason some guys play NS.

    Damn popular game modes that keep the game alive!

    Thanks for warning us.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-SentrySteve+Oct 28 2004, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SentrySteve @ Oct 28 2004, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 28 2004, 11:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 28 2004, 11:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Lt.Realness+Oct 28 2004, 05:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Realness @ Oct 28 2004, 05:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh my...I knew that this was supposed to happen..hopefully the're not many players who think like this. If there are, we've a problem..this mod could just become like cs <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been saying it. I've been saying it. Haven't I been warnign about that? Someone pull up a thread with me bitching and arguing against incorporating combat.

    Damned sad if you ask me. We've traded out this mod to having shorter games and the idea of a "bridge." A fanciful rainbow bridge of wonder to help CS jerk learn to play NS. Wheeeeeeee! H4x h4x h4x Omg teh eh da shiznite! The whole thing about a "bridge" was: because we are going to do it and you can't stop us hahaha. Seriously, people <s>come</s> came to NS because it was unique and different and cool SciFi-ish with and RTS aspect.

    "Combat taking over NS?" Ha! Sounds about as intelligent (actually lack of) as:
    "TFC is dying"

    Is it laziness, stupidity, n00bs (newbies are good because they want to learn which is the contrast between newbies and n00bs, in otherword n00b are ignorant and don't want/try to learn)? Who knows? But it's ticking my defenses off what ever it is.

    I hate brat clans and CS kiddies... It ruined CS, I'm goign to try damn hard not to let it happen to NS.

    PS: Can you tell that I'm PO-ed? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah! You warned us! Damn combat -- only thing keeping half the player base coming back to NS -- damn it to hell!

    CO is evil! I mean, its not like its more popular than Classic or anything -- its not like its the only reason some guys play NS.

    Damn popular game modes that keep the game alive!

    Thanks for warning us. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...and it's Sentry 1, x5 0.

    If they rereleased 2.01 for Steam, I would not be playing 3b5.

    Classic lost appeal when it got dumbed down. Combat will always be good because it's a simpler game mode. Classic needs to be more RTS for it to be really worthwhile, and we're all hoping that the Dev team thinks RTS with the beta 6 build that they release.
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