Vegetarians
Dukem
Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15246Banned
Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15246Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">Lets wipe them off the face of the Earth</div> There seems to be an unacceptable tollerance in this world of vegetarians. Why?
They look down on us as savages because WE eat meat. If there are 2 meals on offer - one will be vegetarian - the other non-vegetarian. WHY! That is not proportional representation - thats polical-correctness Tyranny. Normal people out number Vegetarians significantly. Why don't they eat meat? Odd. There is rarely a medical reason to prevent them from eating meat... technically they need to eat meat too due to protein requirement. Why is it then that normal people have to experience limitation of choice simply because of their issues with meat.
I've totally had enough of minority groups trying to get equal representation as normal people.
In my university we have:
Vegetarian groups
Ethnice minority groups
LGB + Transexual groups
e.t.c.
The role of these societies is simply to give these people equal representation as normal people.
Although i have no grevience with the individuals in question - why should they get equal representation when they only make up a small part of the community. We're not indebted to them in anyway - and i don't feel guilty about pursuing a mainstream agenda.
These people diserve no more rights than the rest of us - and that being the case - their causes would almost immediately disappear into obscurity - its NATURAL SELECTION.
Please appreciate the link....LOL
(ADDED LATER: Please do not take reference to Ethnic minority as racism - i refer only to excessive expression of ethnic culture)
They look down on us as savages because WE eat meat. If there are 2 meals on offer - one will be vegetarian - the other non-vegetarian. WHY! That is not proportional representation - thats polical-correctness Tyranny. Normal people out number Vegetarians significantly. Why don't they eat meat? Odd. There is rarely a medical reason to prevent them from eating meat... technically they need to eat meat too due to protein requirement. Why is it then that normal people have to experience limitation of choice simply because of their issues with meat.
I've totally had enough of minority groups trying to get equal representation as normal people.
In my university we have:
Vegetarian groups
Ethnice minority groups
LGB + Transexual groups
e.t.c.
The role of these societies is simply to give these people equal representation as normal people.
Although i have no grevience with the individuals in question - why should they get equal representation when they only make up a small part of the community. We're not indebted to them in anyway - and i don't feel guilty about pursuing a mainstream agenda.
These people diserve no more rights than the rest of us - and that being the case - their causes would almost immediately disappear into obscurity - its NATURAL SELECTION.
Please appreciate the link....LOL
(ADDED LATER: Please do not take reference to Ethnic minority as racism - i refer only to excessive expression of ethnic culture)
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On the other hand... they don't have equal representation, I've been to plenty of resturaunts where the vegetarians have had to have the salad again because of the small selection (normally less choice than we have ways of having our steak done!).
Plus, we can eat their food, they can't eat ours so we have an even wider choice.
I'm not a vegetarian, nor will I ever be, however people can eat whatever they want. Stop being silly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
On the other hand... they don't have equal representation, I've been to plenty of resturaunts where the vegetarians have had to have the salad again because of the small selection (normally less choice than we have ways of having our steak done!).
Plus, we can eat their food, they can't eat ours so we have an even wider choice.
I'm not a vegetarian, nor will I ever be, however people can eat whatever they want. Stop being silly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey its not my fault that soy turkey tastes terrible.
In most Asian countries, they are looked UP on.
I couldn't become a vegetarians, but I have all the respects for anyone that can.
Now... correct me if i'm wrong - but the result here is a 50% reduction in floor space and products - WHY!
Because vegetarians and humanitarians control everything in universities and in the media - then everyone wonders why everything is so expensive..... grrr!
Now... correct me if i'm wrong - but the result here is a 50% reduction in floor space and products - WHY!
Because vegetarians and humanitarians control everything in universities and in the media - then everyone wonders why everything is so expensive..... grrr! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did have a problem with the requirement of having an alternative for everything on the menu for a while.
However, try to take an optomistic approach.
In a few months, when grilled chicken is served for the 9 thousandth time, those vegetarian alternatives will be looking mighty tasty if just for a change of pace.
Now... correct me if i'm wrong - but the result here is a 50% reduction in floor space and products - WHY!
Because vegetarians and humanitarians control everything in universities and in the media - then everyone wonders why everything is so expensive..... grrr! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If vegetarian alternatives were disgusting and ghastly, then yes, it would be <i>terrible</i> that a small amount of space in some cafeteria was taken up. However, they're not bad for you, they're generally quite nice, and may even introduce something into your diet that you're missing.
If people were barracading my butcher, I would be upset. Restaurants accomodating people's diets, though, is not such a bad thing. It makes some business sense.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Because vegetarians and humanitarians control everything in universities and in the media - then everyone wonders why everything is so expensive..... grrr!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What the **** are you on about? We control everything? We make things more expensive?
How the **** do we.
AFAIK, schools are required by law to cater for everyone.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well here's my point - in my student union shop every item must be accompanied by a politically correct item. This means that for every ham sandwich - you either get a vegetarian, organic or fair trade alternate. All this to appease the small minority of people who actually care whether people are dying making their chocolate bars or how many poor innocent sheep died in the making of their lamb burgers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
AFAIK, it's required by law in <b>schools</b>. Not all shops contain vegetarian alternatives. Why? Because they don't have to. They only do it to get more profit for themselves.
Most shops cater for vegetarians, but only have very small choices. Why? Because we are in the minority. We don't have as big a say, so we have less choices.
So stop making up this bull ****. Go and join the freaking Nazi party you ****.
I wouldn't mind if you had something to prove that Vegetarianism was wrong, but you don't.
But seriously, you just seem to be arguing that they shouldn't get equal rights because they're a minority.. that just doesn't work as an arguement.
Did vegitarians kill your family and burn down your home or something?
Skipping over your rather obscure arguement for the moment, let's just clarify this.
Reasons for being Vegetarian:
1. Morale
2. Religious
3. Scientific
It's far more efficient to obtain energy via plantlife. The amount of energy in a field of a crop is far more than what you'd get if you fed the crop to animals and ate the animals. This is due to obvious energy losses through heat, repsiration, groth, etc. Plus you don't eat all of the animal.
If I was not so ...
Holy hell. I've played 3 games of ns with this post open. I've lost all train of thought. Meh. It will do in its 1/2 finished state.
..why?
So its a crime to point out that vegetarians are insulting to normal people.... well - i'll move on to other groups....
Environmentalists
Devolutionists
Transgender "people"
Anti-hunt protesters
Anti-capitalist protesters
Anyone from central well oiled America with no education
Those people (as mentioned in NottingHill (film)) who only eat fruit that drops naturally from trees...
I want everyone to stop considering these communities as useful assets to society and begin assessing individuals on their personal merits. Do not feel obligated to side with their minority PC pressure/harrassment groups - which are an insult to modern democracy.
So its a crime to point out that vegetarians are insulting to normal people.... well - i'll move on to other groups....
Environmentalists
Devolutionists
Transgender "people"
Anti-hunt protesters
Anti-capitalist protesters
Anyone from central well oiled America with no education
Those people (as mentioned in NottingHill (film)) who only eat fruit that drops naturally from trees...
I want everyone to stop considering these communities as useful assets to society and begin assessing individuals on their personal merits. Do not feel obligated to side with their minority PC pressure/harrassment groups - which are an insult to modern democracy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, and while we're at it, lets kill all the Jews.
After 50 years of feeding off their status as a persecuted minority group - the small but powerful state of Isreal is beginning to push its community weight again... note that the global community will refuse to put Isreal in it place until it has offended so many people that I'm sure there will be major retaliation.
Basically resentment will always grow for small, powerful communities - simply because there is an ussumption that there has been some foul play used to reach that position.
He doesn't have a problem with these groups believing in what they want to believe. He does have a problem with them being represented as though they are a large part of the population.
For example, the school system is being inefficient. In a school of 1,000 students, 5 % (50 students) are vegetarian. The school system must therefore provide an equal number of vegetarian or organic items to the amount of normal food items. So, either the school must force non-specialty item students to eat more specialty foods, or the school has a lot of wasted food.
It's good to know tax money is going so that Vegetarians feel like they're not a minority [/sarcasm].
Treating a minority of 5 % like they make up 30 % or more of the population is stupid and grossly inefficient. If a school system has a certain percentage of vegetarian students, they need to provide for only that percentage, but don't waste money making them feel like they make up more than 5 %. Hey, if people want to eat more vegetarian foods, provide more vegetarian foods, but buying an equal amount of normal and specialty foods is just plain wasteful.
Come on guys, being tolerant has nothing to do with being over accomodating. Why should 5 % of the population waste tax money so that they can get road signs in two languages? That isn't fair to the other 95 %. Unless the 5 % is willing to pay to have the signs done, I see no point in them oppressing the majority.
Think guys, think.
**Note: Duke, Israel wants to be left alone at this point. They're trying to be destroyed by neighboring nations, and all they've done is whooped Arab butt. Trying to use modern Israel as a point of argument will simply get you ripped to shreds by those of us who know the truth of the matter. The little quote in my sig from "the Hero" was in reference to a discussion where Reasa and I creamed these two fools who tried the anti-Israel bit.
Just a forewarning.
We have 5 state TV stations (Licence payer) in wales.
4 are English Language: 1 is Welsh
We are forced to loose a good channel (Channel 4 is recieved in England and Scotland) because 5% of the population can speak welsh. We gain a channel we don't understand - Welsh language people therefore have a 20% monopoly on the media- 4X their fair share. OK - thats fine(ish) - but why when 100% CAN speak English and 5% CHOOSE to speak Welsh. Their PREFERANCE limits our choice.
Equally, vegetarians CHOOSE to be vegetarians. Allowances for them gives normal people LESS CHOICE - hence - they are laughing at our expense -- but thats OK - cos we are being <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> to minority groups!
We have 5 state TV stations (Licence payer) in wales.
4 are English Language: 1 is Welsh
We are forced to loose a good channel (Channel 4 is recieved in England and Scotland) because 5% of the population can speak welsh. We gain a channel we don't understand - Welsh language people therefore have a 20% monopoly on the media- 4X their fair share. OK - thats fine(ish) - but why when 100% CAN speak English and 5% CHOOSE to speak Welsh. Their PREFERANCE limits our choice.
Equally, vegetarians CHOOSE to be vegetarians. Allowances for them gives normal people LESS CHOICE - hence - they are laughing at our expense -- but thats OK - cos we are being <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> to minority groups! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
How would you feel if I said all Welsh have sex with sheep?
(Not actually implying this, just asking a question to prove a point later)
Environmentalists
Devolutionists
Transgender "people"
Anti-hunt protesters
Anti-capitalist protesters
Anyone from central well oiled America with no education
Those people (as mentioned in NottingHill (film)) who only eat fruit that drops naturally from trees...
I want everyone to stop considering these communities as useful assets to society and begin assessing individuals on their personal merits. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So you're basicly the anti-people-who-aren't-you.
And why, pray tell, is the "people" in "transgender 'people'" in quotes? Surely you're not THIS stupid?
Environmentalists
Devolutionists
Transgender "people"
Anti-hunt protesters
Anti-capitalist protesters
Anyone from central well oiled America with no education
Those people (as mentioned in NottingHill (film)) who only eat fruit that drops naturally from trees...
I want everyone to stop considering these communities as useful assets to society and begin assessing individuals on their personal merits. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So you're basicly the anti-people-who-aren't-you.
And why, pray tell, is the "people" in "transgender 'people'" in quotes? Surely you're not THIS stupid? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I refer you to my last post.
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Blanket labelling of another opinion as "stupid", "naive", "short sighted", "racist", "communist", "socialist", "liberal", "conservative", or what have you is often so close to flaming that it takes experts to find a difference. If you wish to express your personal opinion about another persons notion, try to stay away from valuing terms, and try to be as rational as humanly possible - you're treading on thin ice, and insulting the other side by calling it what it is not can't be in your interest.
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Believe themselves to be above everyone else
Are usually "New age" - superior in their infinite inferior wisdom - people
Seem to have pushed the world into healthy eating in overpriced "trendy" salad coffee shops.
They get away with whatever they want simply because we can't find a sane reason to stop them...
Often they can't explain why they are vegetarians - as a previous post suggested - maybe some Welsh people simply can't eat the sheep after sleeping with them - anyways thats besides the point - i'm in England at the moment - same problem.
In halls today, selection of 2 meals instead of 3 - thanks my little veggie friends. I went Hungry..... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You're actually quite pathetic.
Believe themselves to be above everyone else
Are usually "New age" - superior in their infinite inferior wisdom - people
Seem to have pushed the world into healthy eating in overpriced "trendy" salad coffee shops.
They get away with whatever they want simply because we can't find a sane reason to stop them...
Often they can't explain why they are vegetarians - as a previous post suggested - maybe some Welsh people simply can't eat the sheep after sleeping with them - anyways thats besides the point - i'm in England at the moment - same problem.
In halls today, selection of 2 meals instead of 3 - thanks my little veggie friends. I went Hungry..... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, I'd really really like to flame you to death, but I dislike being banned, so here's an opposing arguement;
1: Not all vegitarians are "new age". In fact, hardly any are. The vegitarians I know don't eat meat for good reasons, rather than to be trendy. So maybe you just met the moronic vegitarians of wales.
2: Again, me or noone I know eat at "trendy bars". But maybe people are just BORED of pub lunches or whatever you consider the opposite of a "trendy bar".
3: WHAT exactly do vegitarians get away with? I have no idea..
4: Halls? Mess halls? Are you in the military? Because that would explain so very much. Also I severly doubt vegitarians would want LESS things on the menu. They'd want a vegitarian option.. which would make 4 meals instead of 3.
See what happens when you apply your brain to problems?
Believe themselves to be above everyone else
Are usually "New age" - superior in their infinite inferior wisdom - people
Seem to have pushed the world into healthy eating in overpriced "trendy" salad coffee shops.
They get away with whatever they want simply because we can't find a sane reason to stop them...
Often they can't explain why they are vegetarians - as a previous post suggested - maybe some Welsh people simply can't eat the sheep after sleeping with them - anyways thats besides the point - i'm in England at the moment - same problem.
In halls today, selection of 2 meals instead of 3 - thanks my little veggie friends. I went Hungry..... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
See, you have stereotypical views.
Not ALL vegetarians think they are above "normal" people. Infact, only a very small percent do (i've never met a single one like this).
"Seem to have pushed the world into healthy eating in overpriced "trendy" salad coffee shops." Proof?
"Are usually "New age" - superior in their infinite inferior wisdom - people" Proof?