I can assure you my university is the same way, and they're jus a bunch of ***** who don't want to spend money on the bandwidth you paid for.
Which doesn't really make sense, since usually downloads will still work at above 56k speeds. It's really annoying because I can't play any online games...and I'd really like to (you know, without lag).
[although, if there is a way to get around it, feel free to help me out too. I believe proxy servers can do it, but they violate your EULA with your school]
many collleges have filters that basically dont let you play games online, mine did, luckily my RA let me hook up on his cable line in the second semester and than later he was responsible for taking down the filters.
Ask your school if you have a VPN you can connect to. I can, for example, connect to a VPN specifically for CompSci majors. Faster, more reliable connection.
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<!--QuoteBegin-SentrySteve+Oct 6 2004, 12:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SentrySteve @ Oct 6 2004, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am at Bloomsburg University now and their so-called T1 is pathetic. I would rather have a 56k on AOL. When I join servers that ping ok to me (50ms to 200ms) I have a ping about 1,500 ms and on spikes I get up to around 4,000.
I thought this was caused when too people are on the same T1 line, so I tried off times and it still lags.
I know this is a long shot and there is probably nothing I can do, but does anyone have any ideas?
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For some reason Dawn Of War runs fine with little lag <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> if your college is like mine, the problem will probably be bandwidth monitors.
Me: Steam servers ping fine in the menu, but cant join/get 1000+ pings Starcraft cant log into battle.net, but Warcraft3 can Battlefield 1942; see Steam
They probably are running a T1 with a small amount of bandwidth with a lot of filters. Talk with whoever is responsible for your internet and see what you can do to either get access to a faster connection, or get some filters removed.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+Oct 6 2004, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 6 2004, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm at Reading University as of 2 weeks ago.
I have no idea what their connection is, but I had a download going at 5mb per second today.
My ping in most games is generally between 9 and 15, never more than 30.
If it wasn't for the whole "you have to work" thing i'd be in heaven. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Same thing at PSU... the pings are better than my old Adelphia cable modem.
<!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Oct 6 2004, 01:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Oct 6 2004, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> many collleges have filters that basically dont let you play games online, mine did, luckily my RA let me hook up on his cable line in the second semester and than later he was responsible for taking down the filters.
(the filters were to stop p2p not games) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> How in the hell do you selectively stop games. I understand banning IPs or restricting access to certain websites (via IP) but how you you prevent people from playing internet games?
It is probably other jerks in your dorm that are hogging the bandwidth.
This problem really escalated around 2 years ago when the new generation of internet users started entering college. Some of these kids were pushing/pulling 4GB per day!
It really put a strain on the networks at PSU. First we instituted a 1.5GB/week policy. Then the morons decided to work around that and set up their own intraPSU filesharing ring. I ended up having to get 200 some students networks cut off for general asshattery.
PSU really doesn't care if you are downloading MP3's or other items their network can handle it. But when you are serving 200+ gigs of pirated software and movies. You are lucky they dont come in and break your thumbs. Their arrogance is astounding.
But that didn't stop them so the univeristy implemented an incomming port blocker.
404, you are reaping the benefits of the university upgrading their switches and getting tough on the abusers. When they first cut off the top abusers my pings went from 500 to 20-30.
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<!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 6 2004, 02:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 6 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Oct 6 2004, 01:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Oct 6 2004, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> many collleges have filters that basically dont let you play games online, mine did, luckily my RA let me hook up on his cable line in the second semester and than later he was responsible for taking down the filters.
(the filters were to stop p2p not games) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> How in the hell do you selectively stop games. I understand banning IPs or restricting access to certain websites (via IP) but how you you prevent people from playing internet games?
Sorry I'm terrible with networking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> block certain ports
check if your rate is too low becourse i used to have lag until someone said that rate 5000 sux set it to 25000 and then - no more lag <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Its the caps. The school caps the port steam runs through. Feel lucky though becasue just recently the blocked the port steam comes through completely here and supposedly they just upgraded our internet for the dorms too. Now all games even RO run terrible... better network, more caps and restrictions... does that make sense?
My school had it set up so that filesharing programs would not connect, period, but games went unaffected. There isn't any reason to block games. It's the people constantly downloading movies that will screw up the internet experience for everyone else. I live off campus now, so I don't have to worry about it.
It could be any number of things. In my old dorms last year I had the same problems, but it was because they were using old, dumb routers that sent more packets into outer space than into my Ethernet port. After we got new routers over Christmas Break, it was divine.
One thing you can be sure of, however, is that if you complain, they're not gonna give a crap.
<!--QuoteBegin-rob6264+Oct 6 2004, 09:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rob6264 @ Oct 6 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One thing you can be sure of, however, is that if you complain, they're not gonna give a crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, that's what I figured.
Yep, I even went to them and said, here's some games I want to play, and here's their required ports...no response.
On that note: They should be able to just check the outgoing executable and the outgoing rate of packets to find out whether it's P2P or a game...I think my networking guys over here are a mix of retarded and lacking knowledge in networking - so they couldn't...but whatever. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I hate them - and their networking center should blow up.
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It was working for a little bit, however, the spikes started up again.
Which doesn't really make sense, since usually downloads will still work at above 56k speeds. It's really annoying because I can't play any online games...and I'd really like to (you know, without lag).
[although, if there is a way to get around it, feel free to help me out too. I believe proxy servers can do it, but they violate your EULA with your school]
(the filters were to stop p2p not games)
I thought this was caused when too people are on the same T1 line, so I tried off times and it still lags.
I know this is a long shot and there is probably nothing I can do, but does anyone have any ideas?
*edit*
For some reason Dawn Of War runs fine with little lag <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
if your college is like mine, the problem will probably be bandwidth monitors.
Me:
Steam servers ping fine in the menu, but cant join/get 1000+ pings
Starcraft cant log into battle.net, but Warcraft3 can
Battlefield 1942; see Steam
Internet/Downloads: nice and fast
I have no idea what their connection is, but I had a download going at 5mb per second today.
My ping in most games is generally between 9 and 15, never more than 30.
If it wasn't for the whole "you have to work" thing i'd be in heaven.
I have no idea what their connection is, but I had a download going at 5mb per second today.
My ping in most games is generally between 9 and 15, never more than 30.
If it wasn't for the whole "you have to work" thing i'd be in heaven. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same thing at PSU... the pings are better than my old Adelphia cable modem.
(the filters were to stop p2p not games) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
How in the hell do you selectively stop games. I understand banning IPs or restricting access to certain websites (via IP) but how you you prevent people from playing internet games?
Sorry I'm terrible with networking.
You can lease T1 by 64kbit "chuncks" If you have the full 1.5 mbit, then you cannot exceed it without upgrading to a different connection
This problem really escalated around 2 years ago when the new generation of internet users started entering college. Some of these kids were pushing/pulling 4GB per day!
It really put a strain on the networks at PSU. First we instituted a 1.5GB/week policy. Then the morons decided to work around that and set up their own intraPSU filesharing ring. I ended up having to get 200 some students networks cut off for general asshattery.
PSU really doesn't care if you are downloading MP3's or other items their network can handle it. But when you are serving 200+ gigs of pirated software and movies. You are lucky they dont come in and break your thumbs. Their arrogance is astounding.
But that didn't stop them so the univeristy implemented an incomming port blocker.
404, you are reaping the benefits of the university upgrading their switches and getting tough on the abusers. When they first cut off the top abusers my pings went from 500 to 20-30.
(the filters were to stop p2p not games) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How in the hell do you selectively stop games. I understand banning IPs or restricting access to certain websites (via IP) but how you you prevent people from playing internet games?
Sorry I'm terrible with networking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
block certain ports
One thing you can be sure of, however, is that if you complain, they're not gonna give a crap.
Yeah, that's what I figured.
On that note: They should be able to just check the outgoing executable and the outgoing rate of packets to find out whether it's P2P or a game...I think my networking guys over here are a mix of retarded and lacking knowledge in networking - so they couldn't...but whatever. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I hate them - and their networking center should blow up.