Are You Registered To Vote?

EvisceratorEviscerator Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13946Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Deadlines cometh...</div> Are you registered to vote? If so, do you plan on voting on November 2nd? If not, why? Those who can't vote because they're not old enough (or they're not a U.S. citizen) have an excuse. The rest of you... VOTE! It's easy, and it's an absolutely vital part of our democracy. Tell your friends... encourage them to vote, as well. The more, the better.

Many states suspend registration 28 days prior to the election. That means if you plan on voting in November but aren't yet registered, you have to do it pronto. Like tomorrow, or Monday. Do it soon if you haven't already, or you'll miss out. And of course, remember to get out there in November and make your voice heard. People who don't vote have no right to complain about the outcome.

<a href='https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/' target='_blank'>Click here to find out how to register.</a> Choose your state, fill out the form, and mail it in. Or, visit your local DMV/Secretary of State's office and handle it there. Call your local election board. If all else fails, enter "election board YOUR STATE" into Google and you're bound to find something.

Just a friendly reminder! <b>Get out there and vote!</b>
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  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Eviscerator+Oct 2 2004, 12:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eviscerator @ Oct 2 2004, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you registered to vote? If so, do you plan on voting on November 2nd? If not, why? Those who can't vote because they're not old enough (or they're not a U.S. citizen) have an excuse. The rest of you... VOTE! It's easy, and it's an absolutely vital part of our democracy. Tell your friends... encourage them to vote, as well. The more, the better.

    Many states suspend registration 28 days prior to the election. That means if you plan on voting in November but aren't yet registered, you have to do it pronto. Like tomorrow, or Monday. Do it soon if you haven't already, or you'll miss out. And of course, remember to get out there in November and make your voice heard. People who don't vote have no right to complain about the outcome.

    <a href='https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/' target='_blank'>Click here to find out how to register.</a> Choose your state, fill out the form, and mail it in. Or, visit your local DMV/Secretary of State's office and handle it there. Call your local election board. If all else fails, enter "election board YOUR STATE" into Google and you're bound to find something.

    Just a friendly reminder! <b>Get out there and vote!</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I better be registered...

    I just used my actual home address instead of where I'll be voting (which would be at college). Well, I put down the address on my driver's license anyway.



    If we get over 50% turnout it'll be the first decent thing MTV, Comedy Central and all those annoying surveying people have ever done...and ever will.

    [People wonder why it's all democrats and republicans, and then we get the 38% voter turnout...I mean, come on.]



    <span style='color:orange'>UltimaGecko votes someone that's not Bush and probably not Kerry.</span> [and doesn't give a crap if they're "not going to win" because they'll at least support 50% of my ideals]
  • EvisceratorEviscerator Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13946Members, Constellation
    So long as your college is in the same state as the address you gave, you should be okay. Otherwise, you may have to travel back into your home state and vote there. They definitely don't want people voting in the wrong states. That whole messy Electoral College thing.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I've read articles suggesting that this election cycle may see more 18-25 year-old voters than any since the 70s.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    What are we supposed to do for the rest of this thread?

    Just declare who we are voting for and why?
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    If you haven't registered to vote yet, I would make the suggestion that you not vote at all. If you couldn't be bothered to take care of this until the absolute last minute then you probably have not bothered to learn about the person you are voting for or why you want to vote for them.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I turned 18 September 1st and I registered to vote, moreover I make the cutoff for the next presidential election by two months. Also I have gotten my friends in this area and crucial swing states to register as well. <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Mad_ivansMad_ivans Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30849Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Eviscerator+Oct 2 2004, 12:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eviscerator @ Oct 2 2004, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you registered to vote? If so, do you plan on voting on November 2nd? If not, why? Those who can't vote because they're not old enough (or they're not a U.S. citizen) have an excuse. The rest of you... VOTE! It's easy, and it's an absolutely vital part of our democracy. Tell your friends... encourage them to vote, as well. The more, the better.

    Many states suspend registration 28 days prior to the election. That means if you plan on voting in November but aren't yet registered, you have to do it pronto. Like tomorrow, or Monday. Do it soon if you haven't already, or you'll miss out. And of course, remember to get out there in November and make your voice heard. People who don't vote have no right to complain about the outcome.

    <a href='https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/' target='_blank'>Click here to find out how to register.</a> Choose your state, fill out the form, and mail it in. Or, visit your local DMV/Secretary of State's office and handle it there. Call your local election board. If all else fails, enter "election board YOUR STATE" into Google and you're bound to find something.

    Just a friendly reminder! <b>Get out there and vote!</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tell me any other reason not to vote what is the point relying on governments for our livelihood when we can do it ourselves

    (Edward) Politicians are dealers in hope
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mad ivans+Oct 3 2004, 09:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mad ivans @ Oct 3 2004, 09:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Eviscerator+Oct 2 2004, 12:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eviscerator @ Oct 2 2004, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you registered to vote?  If so, do you plan on voting on November 2nd?  If not, why?  Those who can't vote because they're not old enough (or they're not a U.S. citizen) have an excuse.  The rest of you... VOTE!  It's easy, and it's an absolutely vital part of our democracy.  Tell your friends... encourage them to vote, as well.  The more, the better.

    Many states suspend registration 28 days prior to the election.  That means if you plan on voting in November but aren't yet registered, you have to do it pronto.  Like tomorrow, or Monday.  Do it soon if you haven't already, or you'll miss out.  And of course, remember to get out there in November and make your voice heard.  People who don't vote have no right to complain about the outcome.

    <a href='https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/' target='_blank'>Click here to find out how to register.</a>  Choose your state, fill out the form, and mail it in.  Or, visit your local DMV/Secretary of State's office and handle it there.  Call your local election board.  If all else fails, enter "election board YOUR STATE" into Google and you're bound to find something.

    Just a friendly reminder!  <b>Get out there and vote!</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tell me any other reason not to vote what is the point relying on governments for our livelihood when we can do it ourselves

    (Edward) Politicians are dealers in hope <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you want less government interferance, vote republican
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 3 2004, 12:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 3 2004, 12:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you want less government interferance, vote republican <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh how I wish that were true.

    If you want less government interference, vote libertarian.
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    The only thing that prevented me from registering to vote on my 18th birthday was the fact that it fell on a Saturday. That Monday, I went down to city hall and registered to vote. I initially registered as a Democrat, but switched to Republican because I prefer voting Republican in the primaries. While I may be registered as a Republican, I'm far more of a classic conservative as opposed to the Bushian neo-conservatives.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you want less government interferance, vote republican<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I wish the Republican party was still all about fiscal conservatism and state's rights. But we're not going to get that under neo-conservative value systems. I'd be far more willing to overlook Bush's stances on various social issues like **** marriage and abortion if he was fiscally responsible and left more decisions up to the states, but Bush is a big government Republican who loves deficit spending.

    I'm voting Badnarik this year. I voted for Gore in 2000 because of the "lesser of two evils" doctrine. I woke up and felt dirty, so I abandoned voting for one of the two major parties just because they were a major party. Now I vote for the person who best represents my views and values. Neither Bush nor Kerry come nearly as close to representing me as Badnarik does. There's also the nice feeling that I voted for somebody I support, instead of voting against the bigger jerk.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Finch, that logic is pretty messed up because you don't vote for bush as he's a neo-conservative, and then you vote for gore... who's like so much farther to the left if Bush made you mad then Gore would have you steaming out of your ears.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh how I wish that were true.

    If you want less government interference, vote libertarian.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    1. It is true. Out of Rep vs. Dem, the Rep's come off as the smaller government platform, even if it's not that much smaller.

    2. Voting libertarian isn't such a bad thing, but it is when you consider the plausibility that if Kerry was put into office Congress would be assulted with tons of socialist crap I don't want to see in my lifetime (what a thought)
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 3 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 3 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. It is true. Out of Rep vs. Dem, the Rep's come off as the smaller government platform, even if it's not that much smaller. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all, this doesn't apply to Bush in the slightest. The deficit he's put us in cannot be rationally connected to a belief in small government.

    Secondly, smaller government doesn't necessarily imply less government interference. They don't need a huge infrastructure to ban **** marriage or guns. Its a question of whether you value social freedom or economic freedom more. Personally, I value social freedom more than economic freedom, so I vote on the left in major elections. Those who value economic freedom more than social freedom typically vote on the right. Its just a question of priorities.
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 3 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 3 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Finch, that logic is pretty messed up because you don't vote for bush as he's a neo-conservative, and then you vote for gore... who's like so much farther to the left if Bush made you mad then Gore would have you steaming out of your ears. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Er, I wasn't very clear on this.

    In 2000, I was a Democrat. I didn't like either Bush or Gore, but I still voted for Gore because he was the lesser of two evils at the time.

    In 2004, I'm a registered Republican. I don't like either Bush or Kerry. However, instead of voting Kerry, which I consider the lesser of two evils by a slight margin, I will vote <i>for</i> Badnarik. This is in no small part to Bush's strong neo-conservatism bent.

    I'm a very different person from who I was in 2000. Having real jobs, being in college and having been in the military has left me with little faith and no trust in the government. Personally, I think we should be allowed to beat politicians that try to expand the government and its powers.

    I think we need a revolution. I'll bring the sassy berets and Che shirts.
  • FieariFieari Join Date: 2002-10-22 Member: 1566Members, Constellation
    Not only am I a registered voter, but I'm a voting official, so I'll be working my **** off that day, helping people figure out how to use the new touch screens. It was hard enough for the primaries, and the primaries get a very low turnout. Yikes.

    Vote people! Voting is important! Get involved!
  • juicejuice Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12886Members, Constellation
    I registered at a booth outside a mall. Some high school kids were running it. This girl flirted with me and made it worth it to vote in this election. Even if she is jailbait.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-The Finch+Oct 3 2004, 07:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Finch @ Oct 3 2004, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 3 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 3 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Finch, that logic is pretty messed up because you don't vote for bush as he's a neo-conservative, and then you vote for gore... who's like so much farther to the left if Bush made you mad then Gore would have you steaming out of your ears. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Er, I wasn't very clear on this.

    In 2000, I was a Democrat. I didn't like either Bush or Gore, but I still voted for Gore because he was the lesser of two evils at the time.

    In 2004, I'm a registered Republican. I don't like either Bush or Kerry. However, instead of voting Kerry, which I consider the lesser of two evils by a slight margin, I will vote <i>for</i> Badnarik. This is in no small part to Bush's strong neo-conservatism bent.

    I'm a very different person from who I was in 2000. Having real jobs, being in college and having been in the military has left me with little faith and no trust in the government. Personally, I think we should be allowed to beat politicians that try to expand the government and its powers.

    I think we need a revolution. I'll bring the sassy berets and Che shirts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "If you aren't liberal by the time you are 20, you have no heart, and if you aren't conservative by the time you are 30 you have no brain."

    I've never seen someone go from conservative to liberal, but I have seen plenty go from liberal to conservative.


    Wonder why that is.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those who value economic freedom more than social freedom typically vote on the right. Its just a question of priorities.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's only a matter of time before you learn that economic freedom = social freedom
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    edited October 2004
    Want to know how to get greater then 97% voter turnout?

    Slap a 50 dollar fine on anyone that doesn't vote. Works here (Australia) <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    Stupid internet <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Sorry I forgot to say, Australia (or the 51st state as it's unofficially known as <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    I'll edit in the fact in my above post.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I wonder how many, not bush/not kerry votes there will be... I'm not registered and I will never register for one of your dirty little elections.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how many, not bush/not kerry votes there will be... I'm not registered and I will never register for one of your dirty little elections. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So long as you realize that if you don't vote, you have zero right to criticise our government, ever. You have a voice. If you don't use it to vote, you have no business using it to complain about something you could help change.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 4 2004, 12:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 4 2004, 12:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've never seen someone go from conservative to liberal, but I have seen plenty go from liberal to conservative.


    Wonder why that is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've met quite a few. Meet more people.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those who value economic freedom more than social freedom typically vote on the right. Its just a question of priorities.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's only a matter of time before you learn that economic freedom = social freedom
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, they are in fact, completely different things.

    Here, take this <a href='http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html' target='_blank'>short quiz</a>. Best I've seen for summarizing where you are politically in 5 seconds.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Oct 4 2004, 08:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Oct 4 2004, 08:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 4 2004, 12:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 4 2004, 12:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've never seen someone go from conservative to liberal, but I have seen plenty go from liberal to conservative.


    Wonder why that is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've met quite a few. Meet more people.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those who value economic freedom more than social freedom typically vote on the right. Its just a question of priorities.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's only a matter of time before you learn that economic freedom = social freedom
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, they are in fact, completely different things.

    Here, take this <a href='http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html' target='_blank'>short quiz</a>. Best I've seen for summarizing where you are politically in 5 seconds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Trust me, I meet a lot of people.


    And that quiz is far too simplistic, but back to the point economic freedom = personal freedom. If you have money you can do just about anything the government bans.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Oct 4 2004, 07:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Oct 4 2004, 07:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how many, not bush/not kerry votes there will be...  I'm not registered and I will never register for one of your dirty little elections. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So long as you realize that if you don't vote, you have zero right to criticise our government, ever. You have a voice. If you don't use it to vote, you have no business using it to complain about something you could help change. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course he has a right to critize us voters. He didn't vote for the idiot we will put into office. It will be OUR fault. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Oct 4 2004, 10:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Oct 4 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-coil+Oct 4 2004, 07:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Oct 4 2004, 07:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how many, not bush/not kerry votes there will be...  I'm not registered and I will never register for one of your dirty little elections. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So long as you realize that if you don't vote, you have zero right to criticise our government, ever. You have a voice. If you don't use it to vote, you have no business using it to complain about something you could help change. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course he has a right to critize us voters. He didn't vote for the idiot we will put into office. It will be OUR fault. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He still has every right to criticize the government, regardless of the level of political involvement. I dislike the idea that you only have your rights after a certain level of involvement in a political or social process. I can criticize the government anytime I want to. That's my <i>right.</i> I don't need to vote to have that right. I don't need to do anything and do you know why?

    Because it's a freaking <i><b>right.</b></i>
  • Pepe_MuffassaPepe_Muffassa Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12401Members
    Just for interests sake, there is a website out there (not going to link - a bit inapropriate) put out by students of one of the major universites which has 1 goal - a voterga***.

    Their battle plan:
    1 get people to vote
    2 get people to have *cough* relations *cough*

    thus completeing the voterga***.

    I'm not sure about the effectiveness of such a campaign, but it seems pretty easy to pick out their target market.
  • BathroomMonkeyBathroomMonkey Feces-hurling Monkey Boy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 78Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 4 2004, 02:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 4 2004, 02:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And that quiz is far too simplistic <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And some ridiculous, hollow platitude like <putting on glasses and breaking into classic 'establishment white guy' voice>'If you aren't liberal by the time you are 20, you have no heart, and if you aren't conservative by the time you are 30 you have no brain.'</voice> isn't comically simplistic?

    Honestly, you never fail to give me a little chuckle.

    Edit: I propose one slight edit-- How about:

    'If you aren't liberal by the time you are 20, you have no heart, and if you aren't conservative by the time you are 30 you have no brain, and if you actually believe that this hopelessly simplistic BS has any real world relevance, you have no clue'.

    That sounds about right.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 4 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 4 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And that quiz is far too simplistic, but back to the point economic freedom = personal freedom. If you have money you can do just about anything the government bans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you honestly espousing a political philosophy of: "If you don't like it, make enough money that you can get around the law." ? If that's the case, then I don't think we really need to debate anything further on any issue, because I don't think there is any hope that we will ever relate.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-The Finch+Oct 4 2004, 10:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Finch @ Oct 4 2004, 10:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Oct 4 2004, 10:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Oct 4 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-coil+Oct 4 2004, 07:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Oct 4 2004, 07:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Oct 4 2004, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how many, not bush/not kerry votes there will be...  I'm not registered and I will never register for one of your dirty little elections. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So long as you realize that if you don't vote, you have zero right to criticise our government, ever. You have a voice. If you don't use it to vote, you have no business using it to complain about something you could help change. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course he has a right to critize us voters. He didn't vote for the idiot we will put into office. It will be OUR fault. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He still has every right to criticize the government, regardless of the level of political involvement. I dislike the idea that you only have your rights after a certain level of involvement in a political or social process. I can criticize the government anytime I want to. That's my <i>right.</i> I don't need to vote to have that right. I don't need to do anything and do you know why?

    Because it's a freaking <i><b>right.</b></i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    YA!!!! And being Canadian helps too! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (in all fairness I realize I didn't acctually have it in my profile until just a second ago, which I really meant to have, so all deception is my fault)
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Oct 4 2004, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Oct 4 2004, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 4 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 4 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And that quiz is far too simplistic, but back to the point economic freedom = personal freedom.  If you have money you can do just about anything the government bans. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you honestly espousing a political philosophy of: "If you don't like it, make enough money that you can get around the law." ? If that's the case, then I don't think we really need to debate anything further on any issue, because I don't think there is any hope that we will ever relate. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, not only can you get around what the government does, but a far more convincing argument now that I have a few spare minutes;

    Economic freedom leads to economic prosperity. That is why the USA is so far ahead in economic terms. We have a very, very, very free economic system.

    As a result we are one of the most progressive nations on earth socially. The same goes for European nations, they too have economic prosperity and have since been progressive with their social ideals.

    To be more clear,

    "If there is economic freedom (economic freedom is succesful) then there is social freedom."

    This is not a if and only if statement. It works one way. Social freedom does not mean economic liberity either I might add.

    This is the reason I hold economic freedom far above anything social freedom could ever promise, and consequently I vote republican. They continue to hold the ideals which has made our country into the powerhouse it is today.


    "Change alters the substance of objects, and gets rid of all good with them, as well as all accidental evil with them."
    - Edmund Burke


    Bathroom Monkey:

    The point of me bringing up that quote time and again is that I'm so surprised such a mind-numblingly simple quote can hold so much truth to it.

    As opposed to the quiz that multlano posted which was simple in that it lead you to pick answers towards a certain way for propaganda purposes, my quote was something said by a political power who not only understood politics far better than you probably ever will, but is also talking of a way of life. Older people are generally more conservative.
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