Well, they know their target audience, at least. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> A low blow, but accurate, none the less.
All i keep reading is:
"6 Month delay" and "6 Months of 'leverage' time"
I am <b>not</b> going to wait 6 more D*MN months for a game that'll be out-dated when it's released!
<i>Sh**!</i>
[edited out the last letter in that last word to avoid further editification...]
Just because someone enjoys an aspect to a game dosen't make it insult worthy. Ive had my hands on Half-Life 1: Source though I wont go into details because even the mods wouldn't believe my very cool story on how I did. Its basically Half-Life 1 textures/models/graphics, except it has Half-Life 2's physics engine, graphics engine and so forth. In other words you get crummy old maps and models and sounds with very pretty sparks, physics and shaders. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Athena+Sep 25 2004, 04:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Sep 25 2004, 04:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I do want to see HL: Source, though I'd love for it to have more stuff than just be a port of HL into Source (or does it? like more scenes or something). That'd be cool...
Damn it, the shirt is only men's XL. -_- i could probably wear that thing like a formal dress... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <i>only</i> men's XL, should be fine, but i'd prefer an XXL <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Like I said in that other thread, HL2 will be delayed some what. So please stop insulting me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> On a more serious note (calms down now) ... Valve should keep the rights technically, and VUG should just accept that. Just my opinion, because after all without Valve there is no Gordorn and no Half-Life. It would also mean HL2 ships alot quicker <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-supernorn2000+Sep 25 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Sep 25 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well VUG wont be seeing my money, thats for sure. The minute I read this I started preloading Hl2, Steam: 1 Publisher: 0 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> All it takes is some clever little nerd locked in his room for hours working on how to preload HL2 and play it then unencrypt and extract it in working condition, then its Hackers 100 Steam 1 Publisher -100. And if HL2 isn't released soon, we could well end up seeing HL2 being 'leaked' to the public.
No, what you will get is a full on texture/model leak. That'll be impressive.
Valve definitely set far too ambitious of a release date for HL2, and the Source Code being stolen was a major setback. However, it's my opinion that we are getting that much better of a game because of it.
Also, you guys should probably note that it is the Source engine that was used to make Half Life 2. Source is still a top of the line graphics engine, and it's easily upgradable to newer versions of Direct X. Half Life 2 might not make use of the latest and greatest features of Source, but then again, Dooom III had no plot, not interesting story, and stupid AI. I'd rather take a game that doesn't use its graphics engine to the limit, but has an immersive world, plotline, and intelligent AI.
Half Life was groundbreaking for its time, and it was simply a modified Quake I engine. Even in its time of single player domination Half Life was not the absolute top of the line game graphically.
Half Life 2 will continue the strong single player tradition of Half Life, and Source will continue Half Life's mod community.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Chem+Sep 24 2004, 08:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chem @ Sep 24 2004, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seeing as how Vivendi got scewed royally when VALVe went LOL SEPT 30TH REALLY. It was bad enough they were losing money to begin with but to have VALVe outright lie to them and wreck their financial forecast is unacceptable. VALVe got what's coming to them and you know what. I love it. I'm loving every damn second of it.
Now ask yourself this. You were lied to by an associate. Because of this you're going to go bankrupt. Would you not drag his sorry butt down with you? I sure as hell would. And those who preach steam as the end to publishers are living in a dream world. It won't be for another 10 years atleast before it would even be considered to do something like that. And notice how games are getting larger and larger? Not sure if I want to download 8gigs over the course of 12hrs or drive 10 minutes to the store and pick it up. Gee hard call on that one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I myself wouldn't screw them back over- sinking to their level ain't good. Doesn't mean I wouldn't USE THEM to go back to the top(which wouldn't be hard). Business.
Also, about my dream world: First off, ever hear of a little project called "Internet 2.0"? Yeah. Universities have finished it for about a year now or so, and right now its too big of a system for regular users. But when Steam will probably be ready for the load- it'll be on your machine. Thats 9GB A SECOND of information. REALLY FRICKIN FAST. Imagine getting UT2k4 in less than a second. Ecstacy. And the fact that steam was DESIGNED to be the solution to publishers, I could easily see it working as soon as its ready. Hell, for games like Project Y, I'd be just fine with leaving my PC d/ling them if that means they could actually come out, being so many games are trying to find a publisher, but no publisher wants to pick up the titles, despite how amazing they are.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Sep 25 2004, 02:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Sep 25 2004, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Chem+Sep 24 2004, 08:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chem @ Sep 24 2004, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seeing as how Vivendi got scewed royally when VALVe went LOL SEPT 30TH REALLY. It was bad enough they were losing money to begin with but to have VALVe outright lie to them and wreck their financial forecast is unacceptable. VALVe got what's coming to them and you know what. I love it. I'm loving every damn second of it.
Now ask yourself this. You were lied to by an associate. Because of this you're going to go bankrupt. Would you not drag his sorry butt down with you? I sure as hell would. And those who preach steam as the end to publishers are living in a dream world. It won't be for another 10 years atleast before it would even be considered to do something like that. And notice how games are getting larger and larger? Not sure if I want to download 8gigs over the course of 12hrs or drive 10 minutes to the store and pick it up. Gee hard call on that one. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I myself wouldn't screw them back over- sinking to their level ain't good. Doesn't mean I wouldn't USE THEM to go back to the top(which wouldn't be hard). Business.
Also, about my dream world: First off, ever hear of a little project called "Internet 2.0"? Yeah. Universities have finished it for about a year now or so, and right now its too big of a system for regular users. But when Steam will probably be ready for the load- it'll be on your machine. Thats 9GB A SECOND of information. REALLY FRICKIN FAST. Imagine getting UT2k4 in less than a second. Ecstacy. And the fact that steam was DESIGNED to be the solution to publishers, I could easily see it working as soon as its ready. Hell, for games like Project Y, I'd be just fine with leaving my PC d/ling them if that means they could actually come out, being so many games are trying to find a publisher, but no publisher wants to pick up the titles, despite how amazing they are. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its not they don't want to, its because of the potential amount of money they can lose, especially as quite alot of publishers are low on cash as it is.
I'm siding with Vivendi on this one. Valve's attitude towards their publishers and indeed their customers has been disgusting, the whole way through (to say nothing of their actions).
<!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Sep 25 2004, 02:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Sep 25 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm siding with Vivendi on this one. Valve's attitude towards their publishers and indeed their customers has been disgusting, the whole way through (to say nothing of their actions). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just noticed the embarassing "vividni" in topic title <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Valve mistreating customers? What about all the updates and CS:Source beta! Numpty!
Well the HL2 fansite forums are going crazy over this story, but lets wait and see. Valve are still working through the RC period and the ball isnt completely in VU's hands yet. These gamespot articles are nothing but scare mongering tbh.
Delayed Hl2 Makes for a not happy wolf :E Here's hoping it is just scaremongering, and isn't real... because I'm sure Vivendi CEOs taste quite nice with BBQ sauce *toothy grin*
I hope its delayed until december, that way I'll be able to play it on my nice desktop computer back at home instead of trying to run it on this crappy laptop.
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Well, they know their target audience, at least.
Well, they know their target audience, at least. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A low blow, but accurate, none the less.
All i keep reading is:
"6 Month delay"
and
"6 Months of 'leverage' time"
I am <b>not</b> going to wait 6 more D*MN months for a game that'll be out-dated when it's released!
<i>Sh**!</i>
[edited out the last letter in that last word to avoid further editification...]
Damn it, the shirt is only men's XL. -_- i could probably wear that thing like a formal dress... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>only</i> men's XL, should be fine, but i'd prefer an XXL <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Dear clueless; shut up. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
All it takes is some clever little nerd locked in his room for hours working on how to preload HL2 and play it then unencrypt and extract it in working condition, then its Hackers 100 Steam 1 Publisher -100. And if HL2 isn't released soon, we could well end up seeing HL2 being 'leaked' to the public.
Move to Africa and wait for a year and come back. Enjoy the tigers while hl2 is being hammered out. It's bound to come out, riggght???
Valve definitely set far too ambitious of a release date for HL2, and the Source Code being stolen was a major setback. However, it's my opinion that we are getting that much better of a game because of it.
Also, you guys should probably note that it is the Source engine that was used to make Half Life 2. Source is still a top of the line graphics engine, and it's easily upgradable to newer versions of Direct X. Half Life 2 might not make use of the latest and greatest features of Source, but then again, Dooom III had no plot, not interesting story, and stupid AI. I'd rather take a game that doesn't use its graphics engine to the limit, but has an immersive world, plotline, and intelligent AI.
Half Life was groundbreaking for its time, and it was simply a modified Quake I engine. Even in its time of single player domination Half Life was not the absolute top of the line game graphically.
Half Life 2 will continue the strong single player tradition of Half Life, and Source will continue Half Life's mod community.
Now ask yourself this. You were lied to by an associate. Because of this you're going to go bankrupt. Would you not drag his sorry butt down with you? I sure as hell would.
And those who preach steam as the end to publishers are living in a dream world.
It won't be for another 10 years atleast before it would even be considered to do something like that. And notice how games are getting larger and larger? Not sure if I want to download 8gigs over the course of 12hrs or drive 10 minutes to the store and pick it up. Gee hard call on that one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I myself wouldn't screw them back over- sinking to their level ain't good. Doesn't mean I wouldn't USE THEM to go back to the top(which wouldn't be hard). Business.
Also, about my dream world: First off, ever hear of a little project called "Internet 2.0"? Yeah. Universities have finished it for about a year now or so, and right now its too big of a system for regular users. But when Steam will probably be ready for the load- it'll be on your machine. Thats 9GB A SECOND of information. REALLY FRICKIN FAST. Imagine getting UT2k4 in less than a second. Ecstacy. And the fact that steam was DESIGNED to be the solution to publishers, I could easily see it working as soon as its ready. Hell, for games like Project Y, I'd be just fine with leaving my PC d/ling them if that means they could actually come out, being so many games are trying to find a publisher, but no publisher wants to pick up the titles, despite how amazing they are.
Now ask yourself this. You were lied to by an associate. Because of this you're going to go bankrupt. Would you not drag his sorry butt down with you? I sure as hell would.
And those who preach steam as the end to publishers are living in a dream world.
It won't be for another 10 years atleast before it would even be considered to do something like that. And notice how games are getting larger and larger? Not sure if I want to download 8gigs over the course of 12hrs or drive 10 minutes to the store and pick it up. Gee hard call on that one. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I myself wouldn't screw them back over- sinking to their level ain't good. Doesn't mean I wouldn't USE THEM to go back to the top(which wouldn't be hard). Business.
Also, about my dream world: First off, ever hear of a little project called "Internet 2.0"? Yeah. Universities have finished it for about a year now or so, and right now its too big of a system for regular users. But when Steam will probably be ready for the load- it'll be on your machine. Thats 9GB A SECOND of information. REALLY FRICKIN FAST. Imagine getting UT2k4 in less than a second. Ecstacy. And the fact that steam was DESIGNED to be the solution to publishers, I could easily see it working as soon as its ready. Hell, for games like Project Y, I'd be just fine with leaving my PC d/ling them if that means they could actually come out, being so many games are trying to find a publisher, but no publisher wants to pick up the titles, despite how amazing they are. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its not they don't want to, its because of the potential amount of money they can lose, especially as quite alot of publishers are low on cash as it is.
Just noticed the embarassing "vividni" in topic title <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Valve mistreating customers? What about all the updates and CS:Source beta! Numpty!
Well the HL2 fansite forums are going crazy over this story, but lets wait and see. Valve are still working through the RC period and the ball isnt completely in VU's hands yet. These gamespot articles are nothing but scare mongering tbh.
Valve never hits release dates, they didn't with HL, why should they with HL2?
I doubt that Valve "intentionaly lied" to any one, as all that does is make em look bad when they can folow through.
Valve: OLOLOLOOOOO l0rTZz rel3aZE HL@@22@@!@!
Vivindi: KOKOOK OLOLOLOLLO MON3YZZ$$!$!$$!$!$!@!@!`1!~?~?~?
They would both end up with l0rTZz of MON3YZZ and they everyone would be happy.
Lets' hunt these bastards down and take what is rightfuly ours!!!
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