Alien evolution=marine progress?

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  • Relic25Relic25 Pixel Punk Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 39Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    As long as a hive is left to 'live', other hives will come 'on-line' as time passes, and with each surviving hive, the aliens will continue to get points.  Again, even if the marines managed to sit on a hive, keeping it alive but killing spawning aliens, yes, they would get point bonuses, but the only way for the marine team to win is to destroy all the hives  (in the current gameplay scenario).  So all spawn camping would accomplish is to drag the game out.  I'm pretty sure that if marines were doing this, the alien players would simply wait to respawn elsewhere, team up, and charge the guarded hive.  Also, the spawn points around each hive are spread out enough that it would be VERY hard to stay alive very long as a marine player if you tried this tactic.  Something would frequently spawn behind you.  Mappers can help with this too by their positioning of the spawn locations (which are chosen at random from all those within a specified radius of the hive and do not have to be in the same room or space).
  • LotisLotis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 77Members
    What happens if the marines destroy the last hive? does the game end?
  • liquidscriptliquidscript Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 35Members, Constellation
    And if the reverse happens, ie. the aliens gain control of the marine's respawn room but keep the commander console intact, the marines would eventually run out of RP's to respawn with, which would give the aliens no choice other than to either sit there or destroy the commmand console, ending the game.
  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    In my opinion, any team who allows the enemy to put them into such a compromised position either A) As the ALiens, lacks the aggregate skill, and so deserves the punishment. And B) As the Marines, has poor teamwork or strategy.
    I like to think of it as the virtual equivalent of a Spanking. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://66.78.33.98/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
  • Relic25Relic25 Pixel Punk Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 39Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Lotis:  I'm not sure.  I would think that the game would end shortly thereafter, if not right after the last hive was destroyed.  No remaining hives means that the aliens can't respawn via the hive areas anymore (they may still be able to respawn through eggs placed by the builder alien elsewhere).  I would hope that a marine team win would <b>not</b> depend on eliminating every last alien after the hives were destroyed, since a small alien could very easily hide indefinitely.
  • LotisLotis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 77Members
    Very exelent point, that would drag the game on for a long time he could eisily just go into a vent and never come out...
  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    call me crazy but couldnt you just toss a few grenades in all the hiding spots?
  • LotisLotis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 77Members
    No if its a ceiling vent that twist and turns
  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    Isnt that like on CS, sure you could hide for hours at the end of the map but wouldnt you get boored and eventually komikazme?
  • LotisLotis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 77Members
    Not if hes a horrible llama evil man who goes up in there and laughs. When a llama sets his mind to starting crap, the crap starts a flying. If hes entertained by the fact that hes messing up the whole gameplay than hes gona continue
  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    I never thought of that... well there could be a marine tech that flushes out vents and such. It would only be available if all the hives are destroyed. That sounds like a good idea to me, but im accused of being incoherent <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> lol.
  • LotisLotis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 77Members
    a vent flusher sound really good. a smoke bomb that fills the vent and forces the alien to come out or die. somthing liek that
  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    My first real contibution... but I was thinking maybe the flame thrower would do it too once they got that tech <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Well the marines will be able to get into all the vents after they have the jetpacks, itd just take a while.
  • LotisLotis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 77Members
    heh  yea i bet it would take a few trys
  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    wouldnt bob be able to suprise attack them when they where concentrating on getting in... heh heh.....
  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Course, human nature makes these kinds of situations unavoidable. If we put in a sooper dooper, clean the vents tech, some commanders might sprint right towards that tech and then eliminate beautiful bob-ishness for the round. However, I think someone mentioned that it might require that all the hives be destroyed first. I agree. I also don't think that the guys fellow aliens would appreciate the delay until the next round. A shiny little vote kick option (expelling him from the hive mind) would be tasty.
  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    We're voting you out of the mind.  You are the weakest alien, goodbye.
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