<div class="IPBDescription">seriously...</div> Since gorge spit dmg was increased gorge rush are much difficult to defense [N spit coming for u and in a sec u re dead] So...how can marine afford the gorge rush..? [especially in big game]
Realise when it's happening. You'll hear a lot of gestating sounds in the hive early on and you'll encounter very few skulks early game. The counter to it is simple: shotguns.
Sarisel.::' ( O ) ';:-. .-.:;' ( O ) '::.Join Date: 2003-07-30Member: 18557Members, Constellation
Pretty easy.
Have the majority of your players out of base, as normal.
I. If the rush comes early, before you have any tech buildings in your base, just relocate into their hive - hand out shotguns and k.o. II. If the rush comes a bit late, tell your marines what is going on, build an observatory outside of base, beacon. Laugh as the gorges do summersaults right before dying. Throw in some shotguns for good measure.
reloacting to their hive is the ultimate. and it isn't like it's a race against time... i mean - the gorges can't <b>spit</b> the cc to death.
and another thing that i've done - if they are actually spitting your com chair - when you start hittin their hive, the gorges begin to scramble. you hand out some medpacks by your chair and happy hunting.
DC_DarklingJoin Date: 2003-07-10Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
old 1.04 rushes ruled. Also helped to OC the IP. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I remember a great gorge rush movie. But I can't find it.
Also, its hard to recover from a gorge rush as it means rushing without taking time to drop turrets. If you can stall the rush then your counter will be lethal.
When a 1.04 gorge rush worked, it was the best thing ever <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
it was not that easy..... yeah, SG are quite effective to gorge rush, but how about long distance?
If u have ever watched some moives about 18 th cen wars, soldiers will stand close together and fire and that situation is just the same as gorge rush 10 gorge go together and spit at the same time on the same marines and even u have sg u have no idea when u will be [over run] by gorge spray and spit or even gorge itself.
Sg cant deal much dmg ti gorge if they keep on healing and mines are not work so far cuz they have OCs to drop by.
relocate, hum thats quite a good idea but ....... i think u re talking about a [theroy] on gorge rush. How can u relocate if only a few guys doing their jobs on it>? Once those gorge found that u have relocate they will st. forward to ur base which are not yet ready fior denfense ..............
1.) go to their hive, drop an armory and drop 5 shotties shotty the hive down. 2.) relocate (not needed -_- here anyway) 3.) 2 shotgunners and a pack of mines with you medding!
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<!--QuoteBegin-Ambrosek+Sep 16 2004, 07:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ambrosek @ Sep 16 2004, 07:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it was not that easy..... yeah, SG are quite effective to gorge rush, but how about long distance?
If u have ever watched some moives about 18 th cen wars, soldiers will stand close together and fire and that situation is just the same as gorge rush 10 gorge go together and spit at the same time on the same marines and even u have sg u have no idea when u will be [over run] by gorge spray and spit or even gorge itself.
Sg cant deal much dmg ti gorge if they keep on healing and mines are not work so far cuz they have OCs to drop by.
relocate, hum thats quite a good idea but ....... i think u re talking about a [theroy] on gorge rush. How can u relocate if only a few guys doing their jobs on it>? Once those gorge found that u have relocate they will st. forward to ur base which are not yet ready fior denfense .............. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Let's take a hypothetical situation. 10 gorges vs 10 marines - this is assuming that marines aren't smart enough to move out of their base and kill the hive instead of wasting time with BBQ gorges.
Gorges can use spit projectile, but marines also have long range weapons that are more powerful. Gorges can healspray, but 1 direct shotgun blast (even with lvl0 weapons) will kill a gorge instantly even if it was getting 9 doses of healspray. The death is instant. (Reference: <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>Damage Simulator</a>.) Now, this is one marine - but we have a total of 10. Just like gorges can healspray together or spit together (or whatever), marines can also concentrate their fire and demolish gorges. Medpacks so there are no embarassing deaths. Thus the term gorge BBQ.
Yeah, the movie pwned hard <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . But what happened? Some smartguy put down a structure? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[QUOTE]Gorges can healspray, but 1 direct shotgun blast (even with lvl0 weapons) will kill a gorge instantly even if it was getting 9 doses of healspray./QUOTE] Wrong. The damage simulator disagrees with that statement (a shotgun blast has 10 pellets, and after 10 pellets hit the gorge it still has 80/0). Even a lvl3 shotgun blast won't kill a hive 1 gorge in one direct hit.
However, shotguns will still work quite well.
If you plan to relocate, make sure to let the gorges drop some OC's in marine start, to eliminate any real chance of recovering.
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Have the majority of your players out of base, as normal.
I. If the rush comes early, before you have any tech buildings in your base, just relocate into their hive - hand out shotguns and k.o.
II. If the rush comes a bit late, tell your marines what is going on, build an observatory outside of base, beacon. Laugh as the gorges do summersaults right before dying. Throw in some shotguns for good measure.
Case closed. Gorge rush still sucks.
Edit: luv the muzak
and another thing that i've done - if they are actually spitting your com chair - when you start hittin their hive, the gorges begin to scramble. you hand out some medpacks by your chair and happy hunting.
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I remember a great gorge rush movie. But I can't find it.
lol
Also, its hard to recover from a gorge rush as it means rushing without taking time to drop turrets. If you can stall the rush then your counter will be lethal.
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Was it gather or what?
weren`t there coming 2 more fattyrushes after that one and aliens won?
3 shotguns = 30 res
entire alien team dead = marines win.
If u have ever watched some moives about 18 th cen wars, soldiers will stand close together and fire and that situation is just the same as gorge rush
10 gorge go together and spit at the same time on the same marines and even u have sg u have no idea when u will be [over run] by gorge spray and spit or even gorge itself.
Sg cant deal much dmg ti gorge if they keep on healing and mines are not work so far cuz they have OCs to drop by.
relocate, hum thats quite a good idea but ....... i think u re talking about a [theroy]
on gorge rush. How can u relocate if only a few guys doing their jobs on it>?
Once those gorge found that u have relocate they will st. forward to ur base which are not yet ready fior denfense ..............
2.) relocate (not needed -_- here anyway)
3.) 2 shotgunners and a pack of mines with you medding!
Very simple if you got the shotguns and all.
If u have ever watched some moives about 18 th cen wars, soldiers will stand close together and fire and that situation is just the same as gorge rush
10 gorge go together and spit at the same time on the same marines and even u have sg u have no idea when u will be [over run] by gorge spray and spit or even gorge itself.
Sg cant deal much dmg ti gorge if they keep on healing and mines are not work so far cuz they have OCs to drop by.
relocate, hum thats quite a good idea but ....... i think u re talking about a [theroy]
on gorge rush. How can u relocate if only a few guys doing their jobs on it>?
Once those gorge found that u have relocate they will st. forward to ur base which are not yet ready fior denfense .............. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let's take a hypothetical situation. 10 gorges vs 10 marines - this is assuming that marines aren't smart enough to move out of their base and kill the hive instead of wasting time with BBQ gorges.
Gorges can use spit projectile, but marines also have long range weapons that are more powerful. Gorges can healspray, but 1 direct shotgun blast (even with lvl0 weapons) will kill a gorge instantly even if it was getting 9 doses of healspray. The death is instant. (Reference: <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>Damage Simulator</a>.) Now, this is one marine - but we have a total of 10. Just like gorges can healspray together or spit together (or whatever), marines can also concentrate their fire and demolish gorges. Medpacks so there are no embarassing deaths. Thus the term gorge BBQ.
(it is the one with sYn on ns_nancy - it has a nice matchup of music, but overall it isn't the best for a gorge rush movie)
Wrong. The damage simulator disagrees with that statement (a shotgun blast has 10 pellets, and after 10 pellets hit the gorge it still has 80/0). Even a lvl3 shotgun blast won't kill a hive 1 gorge in one direct hit.
However, shotguns will still work quite well.
If you plan to relocate, make sure to let the gorges drop some OC's in marine start, to eliminate any real chance of recovering.