Mp3 Players

AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
<div class="IPBDescription">More tales of how technology hates me.</div> Ok, so I went down to Best Buy today after putting together a mini-ITX computer that had arrived Thrusday (it didn't work) in search of an MP3 player. I was not expecting to find one for a decent price, but lo and behold a 30GB Nomad Zen Ultra jumped out at me with a price tag of $239.99, having just been paid Thursday, I was moe than able to afford this price. I took it home and tried out some of the sample tracks, it seemed to play well. I set it down for a few minutes and when I came back it (WTH my mouse has turned into a large block of pink pixels and it isn't going away, this isn't good) had turned itself off. I turned it back on, and tried to play the next track, nothing happened. IT had crashed the second time I turned it on. Wonderful. I reset it, and after that it seemed to work fine. I installed the software for it on my computer, and plugged it into my comp. Immediately the crappy user interface jumped out at me. I proceeded to drag and drop my MP3 collection into the Music Library window, and discovered, to my shagrin, that instead of placing the files in the same directories they had been in on my HD, it instead put them into one folder alphabetically and putting them into different playlists based on their ID3 tags. Needless to say all this did was give me several hundred playlists with one or 2 songs each, and one massive playlist with tracks scattered all over the place. For all the files I had arranged before in folders with the album name and then named the files "01 - Track one" or whatever, all of those songs were now grouped together in huge groups of trask 1s, then a huge group of track 2s, and so on. They are completely useless to me arranged in such a way, and in order to get this playlist to make any sense I would have to rename every last one of my songs, which I'm not going to do.

Ok, now that I have ranted, I plan to return this peice of crap to Best Buy tomorrow, and get another one. Can anyone recommend an MP3 player that arranges songs based on their directories, and not by their ID3 tags? And if they all do that, then can anyone give me the name of a program that will change the Id3 tags (or filenames) of my MP3s to match their directory listing?

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  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    you shouldnt drag and drop mp3s into media source...

    just import them, or change the default music library folder to your existing mp3 folder.


    i found creative media source does quite a good job of arranging things as youd like if you have a few hours to spare messing around with it :/
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited September 2004
    And how do you change the default music library folder, if I may ask? The help file doesn't seem to mention it.

    Also, the import button/menu option seems to be non-existent. Any ideas?
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    yup yup.

    go to Tools > Settings, then onto the 'PC Music Library' tab. there you can set the default folder.
    and if you want to add other folders later you can use the 'Media Sniffer' tab.



    as for formatting, sadly imedia source seems kind of lacking, I ended up adding many of the album/ artist/ genre details manually.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    There is no "Settings" option under the tools tab. I know I must be something really wrong now.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    well thats odd...

    which version out of interest.. not that I would know what to do about it now anyway.
    im using 2.02.06.

    perhaps its somthing to do with region?
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited September 2004
    Oh that explains it. I seem to have managed to NOT install all of the software. Including the very program you are refering too. All I had was the Nomad Explorer, which i sapparently the bare-bones version without anything useful. Hopefully this works.

    Ok, it works. I'm retarded. That's one of my problems solved, now to work on the two computers I have that don't work.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    ahaa.. yeah nomad explorer is only really useful for using the 'data' storage area (any maybe for raping other peoples mp3s when you cant be arsed to sort them there and then)...

    annoyingly you can only store and retrive non-music data through that nomad explorer.
    but wait! it gets better! you will need to take the installation CD with you to any other computer your thinking of transporting data files to! (the online versions of the programmes dont seem to allow you to access data as i found out recently).
    I wish it was like iRivers plug and play mini hard drive effort.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited September 2004
    Well the import button still seems to be hiding on me. I am just not having good luck with technology today. And wait, so I still have to edit ALL of the ID3 tags for my playlist to look even remotely like it does now? Then I have the same problem as before. No way am I going into all of my MP3s and redoing it all by hand.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    not all, just any that have information missing to begin with really..
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited September 2004
    Still, that's a lot of them. I guess I just have to put the folder name as the album. Do you know of any programs that change a large group of MP3s to having the same ID3 info?
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Sep 11 2004, 08:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Sep 11 2004, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Still, that's a lot of them. I guess I just have to put the folder name as the album. Do you know of any programs that change a large group of MP3s to having the same ID3 info? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have a Nomad Jukbox
    and I dont get what your problem is.


    and i can do all those things, I can group the tracks by into playlists.
    or search by artist, album, genre, playlist, etc


    All the music library is, (on the left half of your screen)is a paste board for the songs you want to group together to transfer to the jukbox on the right side of the screen. You jsut pick the two directorys. One for the stuff to transfer and the other side can display the flow chart for how and where you want everything.

    Did you make the folders right?
    If you jsut drag all your songs into the music library it should not even put them anywhere until you hit the transfer button.

    Then they will go anywhere you tell them too as you have to pic a location as to where you want them.

    If you jsut stick a massave amount of songs on with no set playlist it jsut puts them in the general storage as single tracks to play.


    For me I just make the playlist, title it and then drag all my files into it and it works fine.

    and Ive never had mine crash on me and Ive had mine for over a year. and i <8 mine. it goes everywhere I go.
    sorry u ahd so much trouble with yours.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited September 2004
    When I just put things in one folder at a time it doesn't seperate them by folders, it seperates them by their ID3 tags. If it seperated them by folders I wouldn't be having this problem.

    [edit] while IW as typing this it crashed yet again. It seems to always crash when I take the power cable out. Ah crap I don't know what is going on, I'll figure it out. Thanks for bearing with me, sorry it's been a LONG day for me.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Sep 11 2004, 08:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Sep 11 2004, 08:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and discovered, to my shagrin, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heehee. Shagrin.

    Shagrindelic, baby!
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    Can you say iPod? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-:: Daedalus ::+Sep 12 2004, 12:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (:: Daedalus :: @ Sep 12 2004, 12:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can you say iPod? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    omg iPOD?

    eew, all i can say is that my Nomad Jukebox has never let me down and everyone who I know who has an iPod except for one has had issues with them.

    guess it all depends on what you get lol
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Yes I can say iPod but an iPod doesn't organise by folders (At least I don't think it can)
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I have an Archos Multimedia Jukebox. It looks a bit clunky, and the controls are not the best ever, but it works just like a removable hard drive.
  • antifreezeantifreeze The guy with the goods&#33; Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16232Members, Constellation
    Anything with more than a single transistor hates AllUrHiveRBelong2Us. Why, because they are all afraid thet they are going to be forced into a case under the guise of "Modding".
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    edited September 2004
    Ooh ooh! That gave me an idea!

    I'll mod my Jukebox!

    *edit* Now where is that sledgehammer? *edit*
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