Recommended Type Of Mp3 Player?

Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
edited September 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Flash based, please, HDDs are spensisive</div> Well, yeah, I have a Rio Cali 256, which would be decent if it supported .OGG. The only Rio product that supports .ogg is their 20 GB hard-drive based Karma player, which I have absoloutely zero interest in purchasing. Can anyone recommend me a decent and somewhat cheap MP3 player that also plays .OGG? WMA is no concern (God I hate that format. Everyone says 64 kbps sounds like 128 kbps MP3, so maybe it's just me).

Anyway, yeah. Any of you intelligent (and, might I add, quite attractive?) forum goers care to give me recommendations?

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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Well, I have an RCA Lyra. It doesn't support ogg, but it does support mp3pro which actually does increase the quality at lower bitrates. 64 = 128 so yea... I like it. It fits 2 cds on the 64meg model that I have, but it goes to 512 I think.
  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    I can just recommend<img src='http://images.apple.com/ipod/images/indexipod_20040719a.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    , though I don't think it supports *.ogg (whatever that is). Maybe you should convert those files to mp3, and the iPod is simply the best mp3 player out there.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited September 2004
    Awww c'mon give the <a href='http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/hd.aspx' target='_blank'>iRiver</a> a chance. Just because it has a Harddrive doesn't mean that it doesn't want to be your friend.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Another alternative for less than $100 bucks:

    There are many, many CD players that can read a CDR full of MP3s and play that. 700mb worth of songs right there, plus you can change the discs out. No good if you're gottin, but if its just while at work or in the car or something, its a viable alternative.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 9 2004, 11:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 9 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Another alternative for less than $100 bucks:

    There are many, many CD players that can read a CDR full of MP3s and play that. 700mb worth of songs right there, plus you can change the discs out. No good if you're gottin, but if its just while at work or in the car or something, its a viable alternative. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    seconded - I'm always the one trying to pimp mp3-cd players whenever one of these threads comes around... :>

    and yeah, as for the .ogg files (whatever they are) - why do you need them and why not just convert them to mp3?
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and yeah, as for the .ogg files (whatever they are) - why do you need them and why not just convert them to mp3? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It has near-uncompressed quality at around 500kbps. ~500k is ~3.5 megs per minute, 15mb for an average song. At 256kbps you have 5-10 MB songs which are still way closer to cd quality than mp3. Ogg is good if you have good headphones and good quality sound output.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited September 2004
    people have forgotten to mention the big one:

    OGG is a free standard.
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Edit: Oops missed the part with flash based i'll leave it up anyway.<a href='http://asono.com/en/product_info.php?products_id=311' target='_blank'>Asono Sound-Hub</a>
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    I just bought the Zen Xtra from creative. 30g for 200 euros. Not bad I say.
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    edited September 2004
    Yeah, the main thing here is that it supports *.ogg and isn't HDD based (because they are espensive and I'd never use all the space. My 256 MB still has about 25% space free).

    Or, if anyone could give me a free Ogg to MP3 program, that'd be almost as good <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: Svenpa, that thing is 374.00 Euros

    That's like, eighty bazillion American dollars. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Did it really cost THAT much? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> oh well <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Edit: This one seems to be good <a href='http://www2.butterflyphoto.com/shop/product.aspx?ref=bizrate&sku=IFP790T' target='_blank'>iRiver IFP-790T</a>
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <a href='http://www.xclef.com/pro08.htm' target='_blank'>Xclef H-800 </a>

    I have the 500, great mp3 player. The 800 is a lot smaller which is great.

    <img src='http://www.xclef.com/images/hd_800-2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 9 2004, 11:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 9 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Another alternative for less than $100 bucks:

    There are many, many CD players that can read a CDR full of MP3s and play that. 700mb worth of songs right there, plus you can change the discs out. No good if you're gottin, but if its just while at work or in the car or something, its a viable alternative. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is exactly what I did.
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    edited September 2004
    Aye, I did have a CD player, but it was rather bulky. My Rio is pretty small, but no Ogg support :\

    Additionally, I'll never use and/or want to listen to all the songs on a 700 MB CD, so it'd be somewhat wasteful anyhow (even though they are cheaper, iirc). 256 suits my needs nicely while keeping size incredibly small and battery usage low (1 AAA for 10+ hours, I think it was).

    The iRiver looks nice, I'll look into it some more.

    The Korean one looked pretty, but seeing as how I can't read Korean, no go :\

    And I know I can use all my English songs and whatnot, but I'd like to know what it is, too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: English button!

    HDD based, probably goes for a nice chunk of change.

    EDIT II: Thanks for all the suggestions <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RuByRuBy Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10732Members
    <a href='http://reviews.cnet.com/Music/4502-6495_7-0.html?tag=dir.fl' target='_blank'>Here</a> are some pretty good reviews. You should find what you need <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    edited September 2004
    Get an iPod Mini. I have one and I have been completely happy with it. 4GB is PLENTY of space, and you don't need 20+ gigs unless you are going to upload your entire CD collection on to your iPod. Plus, the mini is shiny and sexy.

    Oh yeah, you don't need OGG support. Say you want a song from a game or wherever to put on your MP3 player but the file is OGG and your MP3 player doesn't support OGG. What do you do? Why, you use the BUILT-IN plugin that comes with Winamp. It is called waveOut Wave Output V2.0.2a [out_wave.dll]!!!! Just put your OGG files into Winamp, activate the plugin, pick a directory and hit play! All of those OGG files will be converted into WAV files, which your MP3 player should support and if it doesn't, than your brand-new MP3 player isn't worth diddly-crap.

    If you still want more options go to <a href='http://www.mp3players.co.uk' target='_blank'>http://www.mp3players.co.uk</a>
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Skidzor+Sep 10 2004, 08:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skidzor @ Sep 10 2004, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get an iPod Mini. I have one and I have been completely happy with it. 4GB is PLENTY of space, and you don't need 20+ gigs unless you are going to upload your entire CD collection on to your iPod. Plus, the mini is shiny and sexy.

    Oh yeah, you don't need OGG support. Say you want a song from a game or wherever to put on your MP3 player but the file is OGG and your MP3 player doesn't support OGG. What do you do? Why, you use the BUILT-IN plugin that comes with Winamp. It is called waveOut Wave Output V2.0.2a [out_wave.dll]!!!! Just put your OGG files into Winamp, activate the plugin, pick a directory and hit play! All of those OGG files will be converted into WAV files, which your MP3 player should support and if it doesn't, than your brand-new MP3 player isn't worth diddly-crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But see, that defeats the whole purpose of using a compression format in the first place.

    And converting the .wav to .mp3 defeats the whole purpose of Ogg Vorbis <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crono5788+Sep 10 2004, 11:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crono5788 @ Sep 10 2004, 11:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The Korean one looked pretty, but seeing as how I can't read Korean, no go :\
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=196' target='_blank'>http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/p...products_id=196</a>

    Only £200!
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