Phase Gates

Krad

<div class="IPBDescription">Ever been phasekilled?</div> I've been phasekilled pretty much every game I've played as marines. It's irritating, and makes me want to strangle someone (or wish that FF was on). How about putting a delay in phase gates that would prevent someone from using them for a specified period of time, just enough to let the guy get off the PG. This would prevent idiots that want to ruin the game from purposely phasekilling, and it would prevent accidental phasekilling. If someone gets phasekilled, it's their own fault cuz they didn't move.

Just a thought.

TechnoMuffin

Personally, I've only ever been telefragged if I take my sweet time getting off the phase gate, or if an IP is placed badly between a walkway and the armory. I've never had a problem getting off the phase gate in time since....well since you had to "use" phase gates.

Dantemss

The moment you press the use key, start running forward. Although you can't see, you are there already and can run.

GunFodder

Yeah, I've never been phasekilled as a marine. Now the ip on the other hand...

While on the topic of phasegates, anyone else think it would be cool if aliens could use it to phase to MS like it said in the damn manual? That would be a way to punish the marines for trying to ninja up phases, making that a lot riskier. Add a recycle delay for it too, like 10 sec.

Turkey2

They added a delay on the phase gate a couple versions ago. I think the current delay is good enough.

Unipac

I don't have any problems getting off the phase gate before the next guy phases through. Just start moving off of it when you're phasing.

MarineAnimal

You don't even need to get off of a phasegate if you are planning on going to the next one. Just look down, and hold the use key. There is already a delay for going back through a phasegate, and you can't be telefragged during that.

B1lly

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While on the topic of phasegates, anyone else think it would be cool if aliens could use it to phase to MS like it said in the damn manual? That would be a way to punish the marines for trying to ninja up phases, making that a lot riskier. Add a recycle delay for it too, like 10 sec. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
the pg usable for aliens was in a previous release (think 2.x).

It was funny... the aliens used to destroy everithing BUT the pg, to be teleported on other marines sites <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Bluee

The IPs are more lethal, for marines and aliens alike.

Rushakra

Don't run up to a phase gate, stop, stare down, and Use it. Keep running at it, look down, and press Use as you near it (try not to stand on top..) Even if there's a phase selector plugin, you can still press in your number and be phased, even if you're nowhere near the gate anymore. The moment you see the flash, you've been teleported. It's not like you're in some kind of portal-space or anything, just keep running!

gopher

I was under the assumption that the pg pushed you off it? Thats what it does at least in my game =) And yes, adding back the possibilty for aliens to phase in would be nice (It was 1.0x by the way).

Soylent_green

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*skulk is eating ninja PG, marine phases through, skulk accidentally goes over the PG when attacking the marine, skulk gets pwnt by turret farm on the other side. Player bangs head on table*

Ots

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*skulk is eating ninja PG, marine phases through, skulk accidentally goes over the PG when attacking the marine, skulk gets pwnt by turret farm on the other side. Player bangs head on table* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
*2 gorges with adrenaline and cara use the pg, go bile maniac while a fade follows up, taking the base down in seconds*


OR, anything could happen.. RINES need to get nerfed and giving aliens the possibility to use PG's might change that, how much? We'll never know if we wont try.



I get constantly telefragged, with pg rushes when the sieges and tf is build all tight, and theres a skulk or something after you, you jump all around the place, BUM you jump over the pg and your dead.. I'd very much like to see it changed..


Also, i want this one away also;

O Commander can now click on switches to activate a door or elevator.

TOmekki

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why :D its great when youre the comm and u have a marine with a similar flow of mind and some acrobatic skills. theres a limitless amount of scenarios where u two can trick those dumb onos/fades below lifts/between doors. ^^ cargo lift in hera is my personal favorite.

Rushakra

Aliens can phase when the Phase Selector plugin is enabled. It's awesome. Aliens clear out a PG in their hive, people start chewing.. someone smart says, "Wait! No! Leave it alone!" Everyone gathers around.. Comm beacons for one last push.. and while the marines are stocking up on ammo.....

BAM! Fades are blinking about, Lerks are gassing, and Gorges are biling the fawk out of their base. Marines have no idea what's going on, GG.

Aliens using the phase is awesome.

Eclipse

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Happened back in 1.0-1.03(? I think it was 3 anyway) before it was made so you had to 'use' it, but this also led to numerous marine phase deaths as they would flow so fast upwards of 4 people would get telefragged.

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OR, anything could happen.. RINES need to get nerfed and giving aliens the possibility to use PG's might change that, how much? We'll never know if we wont try.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We do know because it has been done (again this was back in 1.0 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) It certainly puts more importance on keeping the area around the PG safe. Because just throwing them up where the heck ever allows the aliens to go wherever they lead to, which can be very nasty.

That was definetley one of my least liked changes of the 2.0 era and onwards, was disallowing alien use of phase gates, I felt it removed a very interesting concept, in that while the aliens have generally safe/reliable avenues of swift movement (be it vents, movement chambers, or just their natural speed) the marines only true speed movement could also be used by the aliens, thereby letting the marines enter into that realm, but ensuring that the aliens were, without a doubt, the masters of swift movement about the map. I would really like to see this put back in verily and truly would I like to see it. If only to force the marines to slow down a tiny bit in their mass-tech rushes to properly defend their phase-gates and trying to get back into the 'secured, forward-staging area' instead of 'stealth ninja-phasegate of shotgun doom'


<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BAM! Fades are blinking about, Lerks are gassing, and Gorges are biling the fawk out of their base. Marines have no idea what's going on, GG.

Aliens using the phase is awesome. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Ahh sweet memories <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Icejelly

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BAM! Fades are blinking about, Lerks are gassing, and Gorges are biling the fawk out of their base. Marines have no idea what's going on, GG.

Aliens using the phase is awesome.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Gorges using bile? I thought bilebomb was always on the fade's 4th ability back when phasegates were useable by aliens? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Better get that memory checked. But nonetheless, i still miss my alien-useable phasegates. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

mirrodin

Best thing evar? I was the guy who hangs back and builds stuff kkkk?

here is the base

Brand-Spanking-New Obs

Old IP

Me

New IP

I run toward the Obs and get telefragged, gg. T_T

Later in the swirling melee I knife the bastard. ^_^

THe Moral of the story? Build the IP before the obs for the win.