Evil Undelete-able Spyware

Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
edited September 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">What is it and why is it write protected</div> Okay, this has been bugging me for some time, but everytime I tried to deal with it I couldn't get rid of it. Thing is, it was never serious enough that I had to format. Basically, there is this spyware program on my PC called "WildTangent". It has done nothing to date, i.e. it doesn't cause any slowdowns, it doesn't throw up random ads and it really seems pretty much inactive. But nonetheless it would be dumb of me to leave it as is.

No big deal right? Just launch my anti-virus; (I use Ad-aware version 6.181) and remove it right? Well tough luck because it says it will never actually quarantine the file. So then I updated the reference file just in case, but now it doesn't even detect WildTangent, even though I know it is there... (The WildTangent folder and all the .dll files are still there.)

So then I try to delete the folder, except apparently that is write-protected. So I go to the folder options and turn off read only. I try to delete it again and it is still write-protected. And when I right click and check the properties, it is back to read-only!!

So what program or method do I use to circumvent this wily, evasive and oh so frustrating spyware? I figure chances are, there is at least a few among us here who know how to or have dealt with write-protected psuedo-invincible spyware before.

Any leads?

(Hopefully not mindblowlingly complicated ones though, if they are please break it down for me.)

~~EDIT~~

List of Possible Solutions:
* Spybot: Search and Destroy.
* Boot up in safe-mode.
* Edit my Registry. (Again if necessary.)
* Removal Instructions as provided by Dragon_Mech.

Comments

  • acer_r2acer_r2 Join Date: 2004-06-04 Member: 29099Members
    I had the same problem as you. I hope you have blank CDs.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <b><i>I make more trips to Fry's to buy hundred packs of CD's than most families make to the grocery store to buy groceries.</i></b>

    But <u>please</u> tell me there is another solution.
  • DarknsDarkns Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31402Members, Constellation
    Did you try Spybot?
    Either that or my adaware got rid of it for me...
  • acer_r2acer_r2 Join Date: 2004-06-04 Member: 29099Members
    As much as I looked for an answer to my spyware of death problem, I ended up going the formating path. You might have to do the same. (How did you get it? IE? lol)
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited September 2004
    I really don't know when it first showed up actually. But I know I have had it for at least a month or two now. It just won't go away.

    I guess I ought to try Spybot, but I have a feeling unless a program specifically says it can deal with these, it probably won't be able to do anything. Just like Ad-Aware failed me.

    EDIT: I was hoping that there is a specific way to deal with this thing; like some FAQ online or something, but when I google it I keep getting the tech forums and God knows what the heck they are saying.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    It's a long shot, but try booting up in safe mode. That might let you delete the file.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    Presumably, something is keeping watch on the folder and protecting it. Remove it from the StartUp folder or Run section of the registry:

    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    Do u go 2 www.shockwave.com?? WildTanget is used to play games there.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    What complicates the situation is the fact that other people have had this spyware (WildTangent) but their's wasn't write protected so they just used a basic Antivirus proggy. Mine seems to be a more rare case because the only other people who I know of who also couldn't delete it are on these forums.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    Cold Nite, run your comp in safe mode like DM said, and then try to delete it. then go into your registry (run> regedit) like creep said and kill anything Wildtangent.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Um... It's not spy ware...

    It's a shockwave plugin for 3d games and such...
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Sep 6 2004, 01:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Sep 6 2004, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Presumably, something is keeping watch on the folder and protecting it.  Remove it from the StartUp folder or Run section of the registry:

    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In fact I did go and use Regedit and delete something from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. Even still, it continues to claim itself as write protected. What I deleted was called WildTangent so I knew that that should have been it.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Um... It's not spy ware...

    It's a shockwave plugin for 3d games and such...

    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It is listed as spyware by several reliable anti-spyware sites. They say it leeches information and can also cause random popups. I had problems with it at one point but it just suddenly became inactive. So I let it be. I'll go ahead and try safemode.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    How do some <a href='http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/library/wildtangent/index.phtml' target='_blank'>software removal instructions</a> sound?
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    edited September 2004
    yeah... i dunno about that... wildtangent is some bs that installs itself when you install the ati drivers off the cd (even when you tell it not to)

    it a program you can play games thru and then after you try them you buy them.... its never seemed to cause any problems tho, just shows up on spyware scanners, i dont recall having a problem deleting it tho <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    edit: sp
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Sep 6 2004, 02:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Sep 6 2004, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How do some <a href='http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/library/wildtangent/index.phtml' target='_blank'>software removal instructions</a> sound? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you. This I must try.
  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    Try HijackThis. It will delete most, if not all spyware (assuming its a running process). Google for it, theres links on the adaware forums IIRC.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    I've just read that WildTangent is installed with a install of AIM. Seems a bit odd.

    msconfig will help you remove startup programs easily - it will even ell you where they are and everything (Startup folder, registry Run key). All very spiffy. I can practically guarantee it'll have something running. You may also find that the running program restores the startup settings so it may be wise to attempt to kill the process using Task Manager.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dorian Gray+Sep 6 2004, 02:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dorian Gray @ Sep 6 2004, 02:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Try HijackThis. It will delete most, if not all spyware (assuming its a running process). Google for it, theres links on the adaware forums IIRC. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've heard some good things about HijackThis. Also the tech forums mentioned it a ton of times. I will proabably download it even if I fix this spyware without it. That and spybot.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Sorry for posting twice in a row...

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b>Status: Situation Resolved.</b></span>
    Fix: <i>Apparently</i>, one more of the buggers was hiding in my Registry keeping the folder in constant use. It was in HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/WildTangent. Upon deleting this, the folder was no longer write protected. I immediately shift deleted it and did an Add Remove programs for it. I just ran a search for WildTangent and wt and deleted all the last vestiges of it after I verified for sure that they were in fact related to this most hated piece of garbage.

    On a final note, I just wanted to thank everyone who bothered to reply to this thread, just kind of tells you something about the community when there are people in it willing to help like you all are. Thanks a lot, and I really mean that.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    Yeah - there are some good eggs here. Even~flow was kind enough to help resolve my motherboard problem.
  • InvaznInvazn Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27142Members
    edited September 2004
    what is a wild tangent?
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invazn+Sep 6 2004, 02:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invazn @ Sep 6 2004, 02:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->what is a wild tangent?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think the term has a meaning on it's own. The term 'tangent' means a line that connects to a circle in only one place.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Booting from dos gives you even more power over your windows shiz then booting from safemode does. You can delete anything from dos.
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