The Official Kill Combat Thread

N1RampageN1Rampage Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24420Members
edited September 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Alot of us are tired of it.</div> [Rant=on]

Kill it! Do not mention it here on these forums. Ignore it. Don't play it. You are dumbing down the true game. When people say CO, think to yourself and replace it, it means company. Do not capitalize combat. Capitalize Classic!

I'm really getting tired of 2/3 of the servers playing combat non-stop. Then NS Classic servers then play combat on top of that.

Combat should be the 'red-headed step-child' of NS. You cannot balance combat with Classic. Classic is 100% more important than some floppy dong rip off. combat has bred MVM and AVA. That is a sin of NS.

I hate it when you fools bring up combat when we are talking about Classic.

I wrote the sentences in fragments and imcomplete to get you people with an I.Q. of 12 to understand.

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BTW: I'm 100% serious.

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Comments

  • ElderwyrmElderwyrm Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15296Members
    Preach on brother!
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    I'd rather see a variant of combat including control points using resource towers. There would be less focus on the spawns at the very least. Unfortunately it would mean remaking maps. (ie. not going to happen) yikes.
  • JimBowenJimBowen Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16873Members, Constellation
    its NOT going to go away, although i wish it would.

    /me thinks back to dreams of big hole filled with CS'ers and CO players, as I shovel dirt on them!
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    In before the lock!

    Combats here to stay. Just play regular NS.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Unfortunately, as one of those crazy little things that happen from time to time, your opinion isn't fact. A lot of people like combat, as shown by the fact that more servers run combat than classic (which isn't really proven anyway, most of the popular servers run a mix of both, and some of the bigger clans have a dedicated NS classic server and a dedicated CO server).

    I like combat. I like the way i can go and play NS without the worry of not having a commander, good or otherwise, on the marine team, or playing with an alien team that goes straight to fades without dropping RTs. Sure some of the strategy is lost, but since i never, ever command (ask troops who have served under me as to why), the strategy element never really comes accross to me much anyway, marine or alien. I like the aliens vs marine side of NS, and that's why CO appeals to me. I do still play classic and enjoy it, however, i just don't hate combat as many people seem to.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2004
    Please do a search and realize that everything you have said has been said more effectively by others and still gotten the same result: nothing.
  • N1RampageN1Rampage Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24420Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-X_Stickman+Sep 5 2004, 08:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X_Stickman @ Sep 5 2004, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Unfortunately, as one of those crazy little things that happen from time to time, your opinion isn't fact. A lot of people like combat, as shown by the fact that more servers run combat than classic (which isn't really proven anyway, most of the popular servers run a mix of both, and some of the bigger clans have a dedicated NS classic server and a dedicated CO server).

    I like combat. I like the way i can go and play NS without the worry of not having a commander, good or otherwise, on the marine team, or playing with an alien team that goes straight to fades without dropping RTs. Sure some of the strategy is lost, but since i never, ever command (ask troops who have served under me as to why), the strategy element never really comes accross to me much anyway, marine or alien. I like the aliens vs marine side of NS, and that's why CO appeals to me. I do still play classic and enjoy it, however, i just don't hate combat as many people seem to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    GG Reading Comprehension.

    Nothing I said was 'fact'.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-N1Rampage+Sep 6 2004, 01:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (N1Rampage @ Sep 6 2004, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-X_Stickman+Sep 5 2004, 08:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X_Stickman @ Sep 5 2004, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Unfortunately, as one of those crazy little things that happen from time to time, your opinion isn't fact. A lot of people like combat, as shown by the fact that more servers run combat than classic (which isn't really proven anyway, most of the popular servers run a mix of both, and some of the bigger clans have a dedicated NS classic server and a dedicated CO server).

    I like combat. I like the way i can go and play NS without the worry of not having a commander, good or otherwise, on the marine team, or playing with an alien team that goes straight to fades without dropping RTs. Sure some of the strategy is lost, but since i never, ever command (ask troops who have served under me as to why), the strategy element never really comes accross to me much anyway, marine or alien. I like the aliens vs marine side of NS, and that's why CO appeals to me. I do still play classic and enjoy it, however, i just don't hate combat as many people seem to. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    GG Reading Comprehension.

    Nothing I said was 'fact'. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So you posted your opinion, which is what i did. What you have posted has been posted countless times before, as others have said, and they have gotten the same effect: Zilch.

    Also, i gave reasons as to why i like combat, whereas the only real reason you gave for hating combat is "i hate it" and "it sucks".
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-N1Rampage+Sep 5 2004, 08:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (N1Rampage @ Sep 5 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-X_Stickman+Sep 5 2004, 08:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X_Stickman @ Sep 5 2004, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> >.<<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    GG Reading Comprehension.

    Nothing I said was 'fact'. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Forlon, thou art not.
  • FnordFnord Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6538Members, Constellation
    Ignoring the various insults on the intelligence level of people that enjoy playing combat... If you don't like it, don't play it. It's really that simple. There's no need to take away everyone else's fun just because <b>you</b> don't like it.

    I, for one, don't like playing Classic anymore because of the insane Marine dominance on all of the servers I play. Add to that the usual Marine teamstacking and the fact that my computer isn't powerful enough to load maps fast enough for me to quickly jointeamone, and I end up playing Aliens 7/8 of the time. It just isn't fun losing in the first five minutes, then waiting half an hour for the HA train to come knocking and destroy your last undefended hive.

    But, evidently, I have an IQ of 12, so my opinion doesn't matter.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-N1Rampage+Sep 5 2004, 07:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (N1Rampage @ Sep 5 2004, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Combat should be the 'red-headed step-child' of NS. You cannot balance combat with Classic. Classic is 100% more important than some floppy dong rip off. combat has bred MVM and AVA. That is a sin of NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If the devs decided to actually separate classic and combat balance, I would never complain again.
    Actually, I don't complain much now....play a bit of classic, play a bit of combat, call it a night <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    People who play only CO and not NS:C freek me out a bit, expecially when they come and recommend balance changes that would distroy classic to combat's benifit.

    That being said, stop being elitist bastards and let the CO players have thier fun. Just because you don't like something doesn't by a longhsot mean it should be distroyed. CO is a perfectly good game build, it may be inferior to NS, but you don't go around obliterating games just because you don't like them, expecially if thousands of other people DO like them.
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If the devs decided to actually separate classic and combat balance, I would never complain again.
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    This is EXACTLY what I've wanted since beta2 I think it was when something was changed to balance CO and ended up unbalancing classic! I was so **** about it. IMO classic and CO do need seperate rules and whatever to balance eachother seperately.
  • TheMunch8TheMunch8 Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27080Members, Constellation
    Flayra many times has said that he will balance both at the same time, so they are still essentially (sp?) one game. Combat is not going to go away. The Community as a whole does not run all combat maps. I like classic more because it takes teamwork. no, it doesn't take teamwork. It requires it to win on a constant basis. That is why I liked NS in the first place. If you can bring more people to NS through a different type of play, Good. It means that the Mod will continue. If there was no combat, we would not have half of our player base.

    Official Kill combat thread? Is it really official? Just drop it. Let them play their version of NS, and lets play ours. But we are ALL NS.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you don't like it, don't play it. It's really that simple.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fnord said it all, really.

    Check Steam, search for populated servers. You'll notice that Co and Classic are at a pretty exact 50:50 division. They've been for multiple months now. Play what you want to play, and leave everyone else the same choice.

    <span style='color:red'>***Locked***</span> since this is not the first topic on this by any stretch of imagination.
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