User Interface Changes

briDge

<div class="IPBDescription">Undocumented ones</div> I've been playing B5 for two days now and I'm starting to feel very uncomfotable with the User interface. None of my binds have changed, and my sensitivity is where it should be, but the game feels completely alien to me. I'm ok when playing Marine, but when I'm playing alien I have severe problems with leap/biting and blink/slashing. I do not and have never used scripts for these actions, but I feel like someone must have incorporated some penalty, because I cannot execute the moves with half the efficiency I could in B4.

here are some things I've noticed.

With fastswitch enabled, if you select an alien ability that you cannot use yet (for example picking slot 3, bile bomb, with only 1 hive) it no longer behaves as it has in the past. Instead of switching to bile bomb or metabolize or stomp but not allowing you to fire, it doesn't switch at all.

I find this VERY annoying. When I'm a fade, I use metabolize as a "clutch" for blinking. I slip it into metabolize when I'm coasting through the air, and when I get the second hive ability to metabolize, I use it in mid air to regenerate in the middle of combat. I spent a long time developing these twitch abilities, and I feel this change is very detrimental to them.

I've also noticed that picking weapon slots has a delay, or doesn't "cue" actions. For example I can pick blink, then pick swipe and click, but if I click too fast, it doesn't swipe. Likewise if I switch to swipe too fast, it doesn't even change and stays in blink mode. Again, it sounds minor, but these things are completely crippling me in my ability to leap and bite or blink and swipe.

Am I the only person noticing these changes?

Sarisel

I felt a slight delay in switching weapons when I tested b5 yesterday, but I wrote it off as some kind of lag on my side since I did not bother to tweak my game. Probably just your mind playing tricks on you.

Jimlad

Yeah, I'm extremely **** off with the way they've made lastinv no longer work with fastswitch. This is to the point where I'm going to have real trouble playing the game now, since it basically means that I can't usefully use fastswitch any more.

To be honest, I was always confused why fastswitch never worked when cycling weapons backwards... at least for me, it didn't. I have that assigned to kp_end, and it cycles but never fastswitches for some strange reason. Switching forwards works, though. Anyone have any idea why this is?

Wither

I've noticed the same on all points and was about to make a thread concerning it myself.

This is highly irritating.

devicenull

Bah, I'm tempted to give you the cvar that will probably remove that delay.. but will people complain "OMG UNBALANCED REMOVE IT"... probably... Anyway, if you don't know it yet its cl_quickselecttime 0 Try that, see if it works

titanium

<!--QuoteBegin-briDge+Sep 5 2004, 05:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (briDge @ Sep 5 2004, 05:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've also noticed that picking weapon slots has a delay, or doesn't "cue" actions. For example I can pick blink, then pick swipe and click, but if I click too fast, it doesn't swipe. Likewise if I switch to swipe too fast, it doesn't even change and stays in blink mode. Again, it sounds minor, but these things are completely crippling me in my ability to leap and bite or blink and swipe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
voogru put this on his servers a while ago as a mod to 'prevent scripting'

i guess he decided it should be put into the game for everyone

Sarisel

thundering typhoons

Trayder

Might be worth mentioning that if you are experiencing lag, it could be because cmdrate and updaterate are both set back to their defaults in the new beta.

Sarisel

<!--QuoteBegin-Trayder+Sep 6 2004, 12:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trayder @ Sep 6 2004, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Might be worth mentioning that if you are experiencing lag, it could be because cmdrate and updaterate are both set back to their defaults in the new beta. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's something that I did tweak, because playing with default cmdrate, updaterate, and rate is ridiculous.

Drummer

<!--QuoteBegin-Sarisel+Sep 6 2004, 02:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sarisel @ Sep 6 2004, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Trayder+Sep 6 2004, 12:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trayder @ Sep 6 2004, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Might be worth mentioning that if you are experiencing lag, it could be because cmdrate and updaterate are both set back to their defaults in the new beta. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's something that I did tweak, because playing with default cmdrate, updaterate, and rate is ridiculous. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
eh? what are these things?

Nadagast

yeah the new lastinv seems to be borked... it just seems in general to be slower and more clumsy when remembering what to switch to... It's really **** me off.

Also the thing about not being able to select alien weapons you don't have yet is annoying too... did anyone ask for this?

Gerald_R_Ford

<!--QuoteBegin-drummerman109+Sep 6 2004, 02:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drummerman109 @ Sep 6 2004, 02:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Sarisel+Sep 6 2004, 02:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sarisel @ Sep 6 2004, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Trayder+Sep 6 2004, 12:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trayder @ Sep 6 2004, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Might be worth mentioning that if you are experiencing lag, it could be because cmdrate and updaterate are both set back to their defaults in the new beta. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's something that I did tweak, because playing with default cmdrate, updaterate, and rate is ridiculous. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
eh? what are these things? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
commands used to change the speed(rate) at which packets of information are sent/recieved and general connectivity are based off of. Think of manipulating these variables to create lag/ smooth gameplay.

Gerald_R_Ford

<!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+Sep 6 2004, 05:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast @ Sep 6 2004, 05:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Also the thing about not being able to select alien weapons you don't have yet is annoying too... did anyone ask for this? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"bug"

Flayra

I'm not sure what happened here, but I'll make sure no new bugs were introduced in these areas (and that we are aware of what we're changing here).