Something To Think About -- An Xzianthian Virtue
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the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">can we get some less sad stuff here?!</div> I see so many terrible events being discussed here. I have yet to see one person other than my self suggesting means of solving the problems at their root rather than suppressing the symptoms with killing. So allow me to express a bit of wisdom from a Karate master. Violence is the last option, when you have failed to non-violently resolve the issue. But I fear people give up too easily.
There are six virtues Xzianthians strive to better them selves and aim for as long as one exists as a conscious individual (order matters not):<ul><li><span style='color:yellow'>justice</span></li><li><span style='color:yellow'>faith </span>(simply whatever you believe in)</li><li><span style='color:yellow'>courage</span></li><li><span style='color:yellow'>humanity</span> (also called love or compassion)</li><li><span style='color:yellow'>self-control</span></li><li><span style='color:yellow'>wisdom</span></li></ul>You need all six, and try to make as equal and maxed out as possible. They are all interconnecting in some areas, and needing separation in others, it takes wisdom to make the difference.
What I am afraid of is that in many situations people are not being wise. We look at a limited scope of biased news sources that have a "spin" on things to make them more enticing. America is encouraged to be in a state of perpetual fear of the unknown and the evil is everywhere trying to get you. (actually most people are just trying to live their lives peacefully) Truth is that good can suppress and conquer evil. But not looking for the whole truth, making it an us-vs-them, and just being willfully ignorant are factors which help evil grow.
Now no one is perfect. And yes sometime there is no solution other than to kill and injure. But like a good katateman or Xzianthian we should raise ourselves to a higher standard. We cannot always assume our way is the right way and there is theoretically no situation that can't be solved without violence.
<u>Some things to consider:</u>
religious fundamentalist right -- believe their way is the right way and everyone else is wrong; groups can be both violent activists or indirectly violent activists. Note that typically these groups from oppositions. If there are terrorist fundamentalist extremists there are equally wrong counter-terrorist fundamentalists. These people always really bug me. It doesn't matter who they are or what they believe, it's how they believe it: force others, demonize people who are "enemies."
There are non-violent solutions -- Does the US really need to police the middle east and the "evil people" of the world? What makes the US think the rest of the world wants our justice? Isn't it obvious that when you put "the squeeze" on people long and hard enough that they will snap. The best way to stop crime is to prevent it before it begins. Peacefully. I think it's a shame nations can't all get along.
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So I encourage everyone here to show a little more wisdom. Think before speaking. War protestors can still be wrong too because they still make it an us-versus-them scenerio. Most of all I am worried that when I see and hear things like "[insert name] will straighten out those bad guys" I get really worried. We keep heightening conflict and paranoia and there seems to be no Gandhi-like voices trying to find solutions what won't result in pain and suffering. Humanity is one of the Xzianthian virtues too. I welcome any though out replies to this.
There are six virtues Xzianthians strive to better them selves and aim for as long as one exists as a conscious individual (order matters not):<ul><li><span style='color:yellow'>justice</span></li><li><span style='color:yellow'>faith </span>(simply whatever you believe in)</li><li><span style='color:yellow'>courage</span></li><li><span style='color:yellow'>humanity</span> (also called love or compassion)</li><li><span style='color:yellow'>self-control</span></li><li><span style='color:yellow'>wisdom</span></li></ul>You need all six, and try to make as equal and maxed out as possible. They are all interconnecting in some areas, and needing separation in others, it takes wisdom to make the difference.
What I am afraid of is that in many situations people are not being wise. We look at a limited scope of biased news sources that have a "spin" on things to make them more enticing. America is encouraged to be in a state of perpetual fear of the unknown and the evil is everywhere trying to get you. (actually most people are just trying to live their lives peacefully) Truth is that good can suppress and conquer evil. But not looking for the whole truth, making it an us-vs-them, and just being willfully ignorant are factors which help evil grow.
Now no one is perfect. And yes sometime there is no solution other than to kill and injure. But like a good katateman or Xzianthian we should raise ourselves to a higher standard. We cannot always assume our way is the right way and there is theoretically no situation that can't be solved without violence.
<u>Some things to consider:</u>
religious fundamentalist right -- believe their way is the right way and everyone else is wrong; groups can be both violent activists or indirectly violent activists. Note that typically these groups from oppositions. If there are terrorist fundamentalist extremists there are equally wrong counter-terrorist fundamentalists. These people always really bug me. It doesn't matter who they are or what they believe, it's how they believe it: force others, demonize people who are "enemies."
There are non-violent solutions -- Does the US really need to police the middle east and the "evil people" of the world? What makes the US think the rest of the world wants our justice? Isn't it obvious that when you put "the squeeze" on people long and hard enough that they will snap. The best way to stop crime is to prevent it before it begins. Peacefully. I think it's a shame nations can't all get along.
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So I encourage everyone here to show a little more wisdom. Think before speaking. War protestors can still be wrong too because they still make it an us-versus-them scenerio. Most of all I am worried that when I see and hear things like "[insert name] will straighten out those bad guys" I get really worried. We keep heightening conflict and paranoia and there seems to be no Gandhi-like voices trying to find solutions what won't result in pain and suffering. Humanity is one of the Xzianthian virtues too. I welcome any though out replies to this.
Comments
Being a religious fundamentalist doesn't go against these 6 things (necessarily) - it just ranks faith as more important than the others.
Sometimes peace just doesn't happen (middle east) There are many other threads as to "why", but the unfortunate truth is that sometimes peace follows best after death. Justice was listed first on your list, and then you say that we shouldn't be just? As for "putting the squeeze" - we have <b>LIBERATED</b>. It is the extreemists who are snapping - and if I remember correctly, they "snapped" before we even got there (911).
Being "rock solid" is a campaign slogan. I'm not sure what politics have to do with your 6 virtues. In either case, the Democrats arent the only people who want peace in this world. All in all, that paragraph detracted from the perceived wisdom in the rest of your post.
So if being wise involves your mindset, your politics, your humanity - I'll live stupid then. *not acutally living stupid*
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Yes. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Note: I said "as equal and maxed out as possible"
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No. Note: I said "order matters not"
And then I said: "They are all interconnecting in some areas, and needing separation in others, it takes wisdom to make the difference."
Which has huge meaning. It means that they <i>will</i> conflict sometimes and are <i>all</i> connected, but it takes the <i>wisdom</i> virtue to descern how. Which was the emphasis of this thread.
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It doesn't. And shouldn't. I think I'll remove it... people don't understand it was off topic additional stuff.
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Indeed.
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>~edit~
*I can't spell sometimes ><*</span>
So what <i>is</i> the non-violent solution to the middle-east that encompasses all of these wonderful ideals?
Unless you're Captain Jean-Luc Picard, of course. I can't wait for the future.