Newbie Question About Nades

locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
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very simple question, do weapon upgrades effect grenades in co/ns or has anyone ever heard of a plug in that does this becuase I was under the impression that it doesn't but sometimes I doubt it.
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  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
    edited August 2004
    I believe the weapon upgrades effect all weapons. Let me read through the manual... brb.

    *hours later* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/manual/front_upgrades_weapon.html' target='_blank'>Linkage</a>

    EDIT: Oh ya, note how the word "all" (before weapons) is in italics.
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  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    Even mines and welders get upgraded? I'm pretty sure knives don't get upgraded. When weapons are at Level 3 does that mean it adds with Levels 1 and 2 so the total is a 60% boost? Or does it just add 10% each time...
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    It's DEFINATELY not all weapons. I am practically positive the knife is unaffected.

    That manual is ancient unfortunately, there is a newer one here:
    <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/manual_version_2/Natural_Selection_Manual_Framed.html' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org/manual_ve...ual_Framed.html</a>

    You can fire up a server yourself with mp_drawdamage "1" and see for yoursefl too.

    More specifically:
    YES for Pistol, LMG, Shotgun, and HMG.
    YES for Grenades. (direct hit; splash is hard to test)
    YES for Welder.
    NO for Mines.
    NO for Knife.
    NO for Turrets. (This is listed as a bug in the database, and probably should be 'yes')

    (http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61615&hl=, ty Verthandi. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    The %age increase is also different. I read a great post listing all the numerical details, but I cant find it. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Meh. That should do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    EDIT:
    Well it seems the above information is outdated. I woudln't believe it, but hey, it's #cri, so best not to argue
    <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php</a>
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  • SlayerPLSlayerPL Join Date: 2004-07-01 Member: 29660Members
    well upg are simple really.

    weapon..............lvl 1.................lvl2.............lvl3
    pistol.................22...................24..............26\
    lmg....................11...................12.............13-- per bullet
    hmg...................22...................24.............26/
    gl.......not sure..............................................
    sg......................180..................200.........220.( all pellets hit)

    turrets do get upgrades, but they work only for one shot. they they get back to lvl 0 upg.


    (correct me if im wrong with the number)
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  • jamespsxjamespsx Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
    edited August 2004
    weapon upgrades effect everything that uses bullets (including the turrets!) so true turret farmers wuv lvl 3 weps <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    btw i think lvl 3 gl is 224? i dont really know so cheak out the <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>ns damage simulator</a>

    edit again; mines DO get affected by wep upgrades... lvl 3 mine is leathel 2 anything <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-jamespsx+Aug 27 2004, 06:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jamespsx @ Aug 27 2004, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    mines DO get affected by wep upgrades... lvl 3 mine is leathel 2 anything <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sry just has to say this <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    DA ONOS F33R BUT DA MINZOR IN DA FLOOR, when u see oni heading to u <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    again sry....
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    cool I learned something new, so getting lvl2 weps before shotgun does not prohibit me from getting a GL, good to know. And mines are suddenly so much more useful...
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  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-jamespsx+Aug 27 2004, 06:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jamespsx @ Aug 27 2004, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> weapon upgrades effect everything that uses bullets (including the turrets!) so true turret farmers wuv lvl 3 weps <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    btw i think lvl 3 gl is 224? i dont really know so cheak out the <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>ns damage simulator</a>

    edit again; mines DO get affected by wep upgrades... lvl 3 mine is leathel 2 anything <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gl damage:

    LEVEL 0: 125
    LEVEL 1: 137.5
    LEVEL 2: 150
    LEVEL 3: 162.5

    And mine level 3 doesn't even kill a lerk!
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  • jamespsxjamespsx Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
    we know the answer 2 the question now, so..... <a href='http://forumspam.articblue.nl/thread_related/thread_lock/images/0430.jpg' target='_blank'>jack the rascel says...</a>
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  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Heh how would the knife upgrade anyway?

    ....extra stabbiness....sharper blade....machete....eheh <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • VerthandiVerthandi Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10687Members, NS1 Playtester
    Harder and lighter alloys.
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  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Don't be so clever.
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    gotta love lvl 2 hmgs vs tier1 *everygame* ;p
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  • RhuadinRhuadin Join Date: 2003-06-05 Member: 17023Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow!+Aug 31 2004, 11:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow! @ Aug 31 2004, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh how would the knife upgrade anyway?

    ....extra stabbiness....sharper blade....machete....eheh <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nanites <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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