NolSinklerOn the ClorfJoin Date: 2004-02-15Member: 26560Members, Constellation
edited August 2004
/edit: never mind, just the link didnt work. When you go to announcements, you can read it.
Thanks for the update...90 items!?!? Thats really a lot, especially since there are more, including map changes and things.
Thanks for the info, /me counts to see how many changes were in b4 and b4a.
/edit: Including map changes, in the B4-B4a changelogs COMBINED, there were 97 items. 66 in b4, 31 in b4a. Other than map changes, there were only <u>50</u> items. So, this is going to be about 2 times the size of changes as b4-b4a combined. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Sounds awesome. Thanks for keeping us up to date. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
great to be informed whats going on, keep on the great work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Zunni, can you elaborate a bit on the knockback fix? Is that all that's being listed in the changelog? <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000004&nbn=14#bugnotes' target='_blank'>Here</a> is the bugtracker link for comparison. There are some inconsistiencies with what the changelog says(1/10 knockback in mid-air as opposed to 1/2, for example), and they haven't yet confirmed that it's actually fixed. Also, they claim that voogru's fix alters knockback to send players straight backwards(I thought I remembered seeing voogru's description of his fix but I can't find it), and Tyr suggested that it's left this way; is that still the case?
Great, now all we need is b5 <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Zunni, can you elaborate a bit on the knockback fix? Is that all that's being listed in the changelog? <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000004&nbn=14#bugnotes' target='_blank'>Here</a> is the bugtracker link for comparison. There are some inconsistiencies with what the changelog says(1/10 knockback in mid-air as opposed to 1/2, for example), and they haven't yet confirmed that it's actually fixed. Also, they claim that voogru's fix alters knockback to send players straight backwards(I thought I remembered seeing voogru's description of his fix but I can't find it), and Tyr suggested that it's left this way; is that still the case?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I initially gathered this information from voogru himself. So I'm not sure where the 1/2 vs. 1/10 discrepency comes in (other than to say the original 1/10 values were from back in May). As of the time of writing of this item in the changelog, it was said to work the way it's stated in the given changelog detail.
Mantis doesn't really indicate the current state of this issue beyond Tyr saying "I like what voogru has done with this--let's see what people think when the patch goes public before deciding? " So I'm assuming (and I will verify) that it does indeed work as has been stated in the changelog.
If there are updates that need to occur, I will make those changes.
Thanks for digging this up, clarification is always a good thing, and I want to try to ensure that I get the details right as much as I can..
Great to see PR for the greatest game once again, I hope you can keep up this work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Keep it up <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-Fieari+Aug 18 2004, 05:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fieari @ Aug 18 2004, 05:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm praying that they implemented unchained chambers... alongside of more than two-thirds of the community (70%). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> probably not gona happen, as B5 is almost entierly bug fixes.
NolSinklerOn the ClorfJoin Date: 2004-02-15Member: 26560Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-JimBowen+Aug 18 2004, 05:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JimBowen @ Aug 18 2004, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> prays to god for increased skulk armour.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There had BETTER be more skulk armor, or someone gets a good ol' puch to the face <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Same with Onos, it BETTER be stronger <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Lol I'm just kidding about that, it would be nice, and many of us are hoping for it, but it might not happen (please let it though, please please please please please PLEASE (my idea here is that if I say please enough, it will magically happen)).
Will the welder sound like the one in 1.04 or will it be the same thing except this time you know when it's not shooting and when it's shooting? Seems weapon upgrades affect turrets in b5.
This sounds so awesome, can't wait to play B5 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (It really is)
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Will the welder sound like the one in 1.04 or will it be the same thing except this time you know when it's not shooting and when it's shooting? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The first time I heard the new welder sound. and it is NEW, I said "This is exactly what I pictured the welder should sound like from the beginning.." Your milage may vary from that, but it's very nice.. Much cleaner and so much easier to tell that you are either welding something or not...
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Aug 18 2004, 08:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Aug 18 2004, 08:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Will the welder sound like the one in 1.04 or will it be the same thing except this time you know when it's not shooting and when it's shooting? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The first time I heard the new welder sound. and it is NEW, I said "This is exactly what I pictured the welder should sound like from the beginning.." Your milage may vary from that, but it's very nice.. Much cleaner and so much easier to tell that you are either welding something or not...
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Speaking as a welder monkey...
<!--QuoteBegin-Fieari+Aug 18 2004, 05:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fieari @ Aug 18 2004, 05:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm praying that they implemented unchained chambers... alongside of more than two-thirds of the community (70%). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It'd be nice if you said two hirds of the people who bothered to vote in the poll. The voters in that poll aren't the entire community.
<!--QuoteBegin-eggmac+Aug 18 2004, 07:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Aug 18 2004, 07:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This sounds so awesome, can't wait to play B5 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (It really is) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The size the download's going to be i'm not looking forward to it at all <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This new PR will restore the community's faith in the dev team for sure. Now , will you dare post in the Suggestions & Ideas forum ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I know B5 is going to rock. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This new PR will restore the community's faith in the dev team for sure. Now , will you dare post in the Suggestions & Ideas forum ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A) Thanks.. more to come, this is just the beginning..
B) I have little to no say on what's going in the game.. besides who am I to crush the hopes and dreams of someone's great idea???
837 is a statistically significant number (regardless of population size, interestingly enough), and while it is a voluntary survey, it is targeted at those most likely to care: those who love the game enough to register and read the forums, and there are quite a few of us.
If anyone wants to try a more random survey and check the results for accuracy, I'll make the claim of 70% with a 6% confidence interval (seeing as how for the longest time, the poll was pretty much fixed at 69-70%, but is now at 76%) and then you can go and disprove it if you like. Be sure to follow standard statistical procedure. I'll give you a leg up: <a href='http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1426256' target='_blank'>http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1426256</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Aug 19 2004, 04:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Aug 19 2004, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This new PR will restore the community's faith in the dev team for sure. Now , will you dare post in the Suggestions & Ideas forum ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A) Thanks.. more to come, this is just the beginning..
B) I have little to no say on what's going in the game.. besides who am I to crush the hopes and dreams of someone's great idea???
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The B part must contain sarcasm. It has to. Tell me it was sarcrastic. Please. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Thanks for the update...90 items!?!? Thats really a lot, especially since there are more, including map changes and things.
Thanks for the info, /me counts to see how many changes were in b4 and b4a.
/edit: Including map changes, in the B4-B4a changelogs COMBINED, there were 97 items. 66 in b4, 31 in b4a. Other than map changes, there were only <u>50</u> items. So, this is going to be about 2 times the size of changes as b4-b4a combined. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team)
Nah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Sounds awesome. Thanks for keeping us up to date. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I initially gathered this information from voogru himself. So I'm not sure where the 1/2 vs. 1/10 discrepency comes in (other than to say the original 1/10 values were from back in May). As of the time of writing of this item in the changelog, it was said to work the way it's stated in the given changelog detail.
Mantis doesn't really indicate the current state of this issue beyond Tyr saying "I like what voogru has done with this--let's see what people think when the patch goes public before deciding? " So I'm assuming (and I will verify) that it does indeed work as has been stated in the changelog.
If there are updates that need to occur, I will make those changes.
Thanks for digging this up, clarification is always a good thing, and I want to try to ensure that I get the details right as much as I can..
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection)
I heart Zunni.
Keep it up <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
probably not gona happen, as B5 is almost entierly bug fixes.
There had BETTER be more skulk armor, or someone gets a good ol' puch to the face <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Same with Onos, it BETTER be stronger <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Lol I'm just kidding about that, it would be nice, and many of us are hoping for it, but it might not happen (please let it though, please please please please please PLEASE (my idea here is that if I say please enough, it will magically happen)).
The first time I heard the new welder sound. and it is NEW, I said "This is exactly what I pictured the welder should sound like from the beginning.." Your milage may vary from that, but it's very nice.. Much cleaner and so much easier to tell that you are either welding something or not...
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team)
The first time I heard the new welder sound. and it is NEW, I said "This is exactly what I pictured the welder should sound like from the beginning.." Your milage may vary from that, but it's very nice.. Much cleaner and so much easier to tell that you are either welding something or not...
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Speaking as a welder monkey...
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>YES!</b></span>
It'd be nice if you said two hirds of the people who bothered to vote in the poll. The voters in that poll aren't the entire community.
The size the download's going to be i'm not looking forward to it at all <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT:
Lets get some bit torrent links up for this...
The size the download's going to be i'm not looking forward to it at all <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Liar <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The size the download's going to be i'm not looking forward to it at all <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Liar <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i speak the truth!
A) Thanks.. more to come, this is just the beginning..
B) I have little to no say on what's going in the game.. besides who am I to crush the hopes and dreams of someone's great idea???
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team)
If anyone wants to try a more random survey and check the results for accuracy, I'll make the claim of 70% with a 6% confidence interval (seeing as how for the longest time, the poll was pretty much fixed at 69-70%, but is now at 76%) and then you can go and disprove it if you like. Be sure to follow standard statistical procedure. I'll give you a leg up: <a href='http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1426256' target='_blank'>http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1426256</a>
A) Thanks.. more to come, this is just the beginning..
B) I have little to no say on what's going in the game.. besides who am I to crush the hopes and dreams of someone's great idea???
-Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The B part must contain sarcasm. It has to. Tell me it was sarcrastic. Please. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
DUDE!!!!
I have taken over posting in the IS forum, FYI. ^_^