Bug reports: list bugs here.

BrutusBrutus Join Date: 2002-10-20 Member: 1555Members
I thought it might be a good idea to have one thread with bugs that are found in the game. Please only give bug reports in a respectful manner. The Dev team made a free game for everyone to play and we should be grateful, not complain.

Lets help them out.

Mods, if a thread like this does not already exist, would you mind making it a sticky?

1. Lag / resource requirements

2. Shortcut issue. (BTW this has happened with other HL mods, and HL itself for me once, so it may not be an issue just for you)

3. No "last weapon used option"

4. Previous weapon or next weapon, I forget which does not interact with hud_fastswitch

5. Gordon Freeman models in the ready room. (May be intentional, don't know)

6. Whiny ingrateful players. This effects all mods, and I doubt you will be able to fix it, unless you just keep it for yourself.

7. When using the menu sometimes the options stay. This may be inconjunction to the lag issue.
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  • bigjanginbigjangin Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2090Members
    getting stuck building a resource tower as an alien
  • AugiAugi Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2675Members
    Well the only problems I have are the menus not clearing off of the screen and the ping issues. The menus can be overlooked, but the game isnt playable with more than 10 or so people because of the superhigh pings. Even then it is kinda sketchy because they are like at 300ms.
  • Rice-RocketeerRice-Rocketeer Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2674Members
    More bugs to report:
    HL Version 1.1.1.0, brand new installation. Other mods are working (CS, DoD).
    1.) When creating a server, the maplist for NS does not actually show up - it's the ORIGINAL Half-Life's maps! Weird.
    2.) The menu for the Marines commander would not stay after clicking it. (For example: when the "build" button was clicked, the menu flashed on screen, and I was unable to select any of the items to build. Same happens with the "advanced" and "equip" menus.)
  • EpyonEpyon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2255Members
    Having the commander be able to build stuff inside people trapping them there for all eternity(or until they suicide).

    On my friend's computer, he cant play at all. WHen he tries to connect to or host a server, it says his executable is out of date and tries to update it. Doesn't matter how he starts the game from the shortcut to using the custom game thing in HL.
    His specs: Win2k sp2, 1.33ghz athlon, abit kt7a, 512mb pc133 ram, geforce2 gts
  • BrutusBrutus Join Date: 2002-10-20 Member: 1555Members
    Rice, start the game from the start menu, not the desktop.

    I forgot to add when I started, only list bugs not already listed in this thread.

    Thanks.
  • ParasiteParasite Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 431Members
    1. HUD artifacts as others have mentioned
    2. Lag. 1500-2500+ ping YOWZA!
    3. Upon emerging from my first deep sea-dive, my sound was all but gone. Gargled and low with that underwater-ish ambience. minus the bass effect form CS and HL.

    SKULK OWNS!
  • JdeFalconrJdeFalconr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2792Members
    I have my mouse wheel set to "next weapon" and "previous weapon" for forward and backward movements, respectively. For some reason, prev weapon cycles through the weps and allows you to click the button to select one, while next weapon selects each weapon in turn. It would be nice to have both next and prev weapon movements cycle through your weapon options so you can click to pick the one you want.

    Also, when will there be some sort of crosshair added to the minimap? It's a bit confusing without one. Thanks!
  • ParasiteParasite Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 431Members
    GUys, its a good idea in this thread to follow the guidlines set forth by Molecular in the "Tech support FAQ" thread...system settings and such, becauase I imagine the HUD artifacts is probably exclusive to OpenGL.

    Heres my outdated specs:
    PIII 600
    Hercules GF2 MX 400
    Creative Live drive IR (sound)
    800x600 OpenGL
    Nvidia DXP 40.(42?) beta Drivers.

    Also, just a note that HL and CS run fine.
  • Alex7Alex7 Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 405Members
    The 'nextweapon' bind doesn't work, I can only cycle one way.
  • RamothRamoth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2833Members
    There is a low framerate issue with ATI Raedon cards...this problem is not uncommon to half-life, because it wasn't designed around ati cards.  The problem was fixed by valve for TFC, CS, DoD, and a few other mods, but with NS, I get fps of around 5.0 when I get fps of 50 - 70 in other mods.

    system specs:
    Intel Celeron 841Mhz
    640 MB PC133 SDRAM
    ATI Raedon 9000 Pro 64Mb
    SBLive Value!

    Net Connection: 2Mb DSL
  • RamothRamoth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2833Members
    There is a low framerate issue with ATI Raedon cards...this problem is not uncommon to half-life, because it wasn't designed around ati cards.  The problem was fixed by valve for TFC, CS, DoD, and a few other mods, but with NS, I get fps of around 5.0 when I get fps of 50 - 70 in other mods.

    system specs:
    Intel Celeron 841Mhz
    640 MB PC133 SDRAM
    ATI Raedon 9000 Pro 64Mb
    SBLive Value!

    Net Connection: 2Mb DSL <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo-->
  • ZcaliberZcaliber Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 93Members
    Well, it just goes to show you...

    No matter how much testing, no matter how much pre-release fixing, no matter how long the development time OR maticulous the team...

    EVERY Mod/Game, no matter WHAT will be released with bug/preformance issues!

    So don't raze the dev. team. ^^
  • BrutusBrutus Join Date: 2002-10-20 Member: 1555Members
    Good idea about the system specs.

    MB: Soyo Dragon KT333 Platinum
    CPU: Athlon XP 2200+
    Ram: 512MB Corsair XMS
    Vid: Leadtek A250 GF4 128mb ram
    Sound: SBLive
  • RamothRamoth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2833Members
    I'm not razing them, just informing. BTW, i also tried it out in D3D and OpenGL both @ 640X480 16bit colors, same results.
  • ColossusColossus Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2852Members
    Specs:

    Intel P4 2.0GHz @ 2.4GHz
    Visiontek Geforce4 4400 @stock w/ 41.03 Drivers
    Corsair XMS-3200C2 memory
    D3D 1024x768 @32bit
    Soundblaster Audigy platnium
    Half-Life v1.1.1.0 - Client upgrade

    I am having various problems within the game. First I am not even able to play the game. It would stop while I am rididng in the tram. I would get stuck around the red lightisnh door after the guard is banging on the door. I would hear the tram moving but the video doesnt change. I let it sit there for about 8 minutes since I know HL has a long intro. I assumed maybe it would appear at the stop when the guard opens the door.

    Another problem is that when I tried to create a lan game. The maps that I can select are from the valve directory not within the NS directory. I would get like crossfire.bsp, boot_camp.bsd, etc etc etc.

    Another problem is that when I am in the middle of the tram and i use 'ESC' to leave the game to get back to the main menu and then immediately press 'ESC' again. I would get nothing but the wallpaper with the eyeball looking thing in the right side of the screen.

    Another problem is that when I make any changes to the video settings. BTW I have tried both D3D and OpenGL and they both gave the same results. But when I make a change from D3D to OpenGL and visa versa. The game would crash. No error messages no nothing.

    Another problem is that when I use OpenGL and I was able to start a LAN game with one of the other maps. I believe I used crossfire.bsp. The image was well... wacky.. All green lines kinda stuff. It looked like I walked through the wall. Part of it looked like I was walking through the wall and the other half looked like little green thin lines. (very ugly) I think that might be related that I cannot choice a NS map.
  • RamothRamoth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2833Members
    oh, and sry bout the double post, ikonboard was messing with me. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo-->
  • D1sasterpieceD1sasterpiece Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2958Members
    Won't let me play  <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
    Installed onto cs retail, I try to connect to a server and I get told that in order to play i need custom ns installed? Even though im in the shell.
  • RamothRamoth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2833Members
    Did you try re-installing hl or patching it with the latest patch?

    <img src="http://www.bdclan.org/images/ram.jpg" border="0">
  • MuntyMunty Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2972Members, Constellation
    Yeah pings are horible on most servers <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->
    Also it seems that the commands are assigned to their default keys, even though i changed the controls around slightly.

    Ramoth: I have an ATI card, yet i still get 50ish FPS

    Colossus: your not ment to be able to play the hazzard and game modes.. the reason you can is caused by an error in the shortcuts. The sortcuts dont have the "Start In" box filled in. Put your half life directory location (e.g. "C:\Sierra\Half-Life") in the Start In box in the shortcuts propertys, and the links should all work fine.
  • pDKpDK Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2237Members
    Man there are oh so many repeat bugs in this post...  Please read the entire post before replying to it.  Let me just list a few that I noticed:

    1.  Commander Quick Keys sometimes don't work (I beleive its when you select a certain menu that they dont work on... I always could never recreate it.. it just happens).
    2.  When dead, and in observer mod, and you hit F4 (to switch teams).  Your body goes to the ready room, but you're view is still fixed on the ovserver mod.  You have to reconnect to fix.
    3.  When crawling on a celling (expecialy that glass tubing/corador near the Marines' spawn in one of thouse levels) and you look down and hit the backwards key, you sometimes are able to push your way through the celling and are able to just float around.
    4.  Can't mute players from the Scores screen... ohh please fix this fast!


    Thats pretty much it.  Thanks again for this great mod!
  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    Colossus, and anyone else who can start up single player or hazard course games while playing NS:

    The mod has not loaded up correctly for some reason. I have read that starting NS from the start menu instead of the desktop fixes this, but one guarunteed to fix it is to start halflife normally (with no mod, plain old valve/cstrike/blueshift depending on what you installed NS on). Look for "Custom Game" and click on it. Select "Natural Selection 1.0" from the list and then click on "Activate". Click "Done".

    Do this everytime you want to play NS it will work perfectly. The only issues I have now are the server lagging and menu artifacts...

    EDIT:
    Oh wait, just remembered, some weird bugs I have:
    1)When I die, my screen keeps flashing from black to full colour again until I respawn.
    2)When I evolve cloaking, all other kharaa and their buildings on my screen goes semi-invisible and glows permantently. I still seem to cloak and decloak normally. (I have not seen any marines while cloaked, so I don't know what they end up looking like)
    3)When I evolve Advanced Hive-Sight, and then activate it with "f", it has the same effect as cloaking: All kharra and their buildings go semi-transparent and glow. What's worse is that marines go completely invisible! (well, they had an extremely faint outline I could only see when either of us moved)
  • Res1Res1 Join Date: 2002-08-18 Member: 1187Members
    Using gamespy3d to find and ping servers - you cannot ping NS servers thru gamespy3d for some odd reason.  It's the only HL mod i've ever seen that you can't ping the servers.  This is probably out of the devs hands tho :/
  • GuardianGuardian Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2335Members
    I was looking around at a map on my own lan server, with noone else on it.  The game was running fine.  Then I went into commander mode, and moved around moved the view around the map a bit, and my FPS went to hell, even after I left the command pod.  I restarted the server, cranked my video and sound settings all the way down, and the same thing happened.  So I'm wondering if all the lag that people are experiencing is actually some other sort of glitch on the client side? Or maybe my computer is garbage...

    p3 550, 384 ram, old 32 meg diamond viper 770 ultra
  • BrutusBrutus Join Date: 2002-10-20 Member: 1555Members
  • Sephiroth2kSephiroth2k Join Date: 2002-04-21 Member: 481Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--D1sasterpiece+Nov. 01 2002,01:17--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (D1sasterpiece @ Nov. 01 2002,01:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Won't let me play  <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
    Installed onto cs retail, I try to connect to a server and I get told that in order to play i need custom ns installed? Even though im in the shell.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    that happened to me but i used a normal hl.exe. i solved the problem by opening up my cs link and switching to ns from there...
  • Jedi_Master_HayatoJedi_Master_Hayato Join Date: 2002-08-15 Member: 1173Members
    okay...

    2 Bugs

    1:
    Playing at frindes house, hosted on 700+(unsure, but that machine had very smooth graphics)
    me playing as alien on 450 machine, with horrible fps (maybe <5 in some hives&#33<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> when:
    building alien turret, and get stuck in one spot until i type kill in console!!  I couldn't move, use right click menu, but could spit at marines.  this happened twice in engine room hive, and nearby 'T' hallway junture with welded door. (sorry, i don't know the name of the map offhand)

    2:
    same session.  as skulk and gorge, several times I couldn't use my right click menu!  occasionally I could hold down to use, but other times had to console kill myself!!! very annoying.

    Plays awsomely on my home machine, though, none of the above mentioned problems.  had lag once or twice when playing as heavy marine, teamate started walking in place, then speed walked for 10-15 meters!  pretty funny to see!

    Thanks for looking at these.  Awsome mod!  thought attention to detail was better than some retail games!!!
  • MazdekMazdek Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2615Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Munty+Nov. 01 2002,00:38--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Munty @ Nov. 01 2002,00:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->The shortcuts dont have the "Start In" box filled in. Put your half life directory location (e.g. "C:\Sierra\Half-Life") in the Start In box in the shortcuts propertys, and the links should all work fine.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (bump) Aye, this fixed alot of the initial problems I had. I never tried to use the Start menu shortcut, I'll try that when I get home today. This fixes the problem with starting your own game and only seeing HL maps, menu items that shouldn't be available (Hazard course, Load, New), and not being able to filter for NS games.

    Only big issue I'm having is that Updating the game list downloads ALL 26,000+ Half-Life games & mods thereof that were being played last night.  I AM able to put on the Filter option for NS, so that after I'm sick of waiting and click Cancel I see only the NS games that were polled. So something isn't right with the update option, in CS/DoD the master server only sends back games of the specific mod being asked for. Maybe this is fixed if I use the Start menu shortcut?     <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skulk.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::skulk::'><!--endemo-->
  • MazdekMazdek Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2615Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Revenge+Nov. 01 2002,02:08--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Revenge @ Nov. 01 2002,02:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->2)When I evolve cloaking, all other kharaa and their buildings on my screen goes semi-invisible and glows permantently. I still seem to cloak and decloak normally. (I have not seen any marines while cloaked, so I don't know what they end up looking like)
    3)When I evolve Advanced Hive-Sight, and then activate it with "f", it has the same effect as cloaking: All kharra and their buildings go semi-transparent and glow. What's worse is that marines go completely invisible! (well, they had an extremely faint outline I could only see when either of us moved)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Those aren't bugs. Well, the not seeing Marines properly might be a bug, but what you see is correct.  When using Enhanced Sight, everything that isn't part of the map (life forms and dropped equiptment) becomes translucent.  This is supposed to make everything easier to see; the Marine's dark uniform no longer helps conceal them in shadows. I think it works great.

    The effect is also used when you are cloaked for only your own avatar... uh, whatever limbs or teeth of your own you see in front of you.  If other things are also highlighted like this, its might be because you had Enhanced Vision already? Try evolving Cloak first and see if it happens again.

    Dunno whats up with the Marines, I didn't get to play them very much because the servers I was on kept getting imbalanced towards them, so I'd go Alien to balance things out. Maybe they have an advanced tech that lets them lower their heat signature or something?  (heh, yeah, I didn't finish RTFM'ing, got too excited partway through the docs and had to just jump in...)
  • Big_BearBig_Bear Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4403Members
    I (and my friend) got a problem I havn't seen posted yet. It's in the command thing.. When I press a build button the new options only flash.. so I can't build or do anything of that sort from the command thing.. I have to exit the game and joine again and then maby the build comand will work again..
  • Llama_KillerLlama_Killer Join Date: 2002-07-30 Member: 1029Members
    ok i found a bug whe nyou are in Heavy Armor and going down a elevator you seem to get stuck when its stops moving hence reaching its destination.
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