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StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
<div class="IPBDescription">why are they so bland?</div> Sometimes i wonder when i go to other website's forums of like big organisations like BBC or CNN, their board's interface look dreadful to me. I mean yes they surely look nice with the site but the way they present it, it just look so bland. Even the way u post a message its jsut so simple.

Although even with this people are still using it alot and some how the presentation of the threads sounds correct to them.

But so far I think is that when it comes to sites about net/games/comps everyone uses PHPBB or invision or something similar.

The big commercial sites somehow just stay away from it and design something thats like so simplified and bland so that their users don't get "lost" or something.

This mainly came up when I was trying to dissuade my fren from dropping Invision for a forum that was like tooooo simple....didnt even have user login etc.

Comments

  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    i know what you mean... it's weird. if they have expert webdesign for everything else, why not make the forum look decent at least?
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    Because the all-mighty Mullet does not post there.
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    There are other forums???

    0_o
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    I think what you call "bland" they call professional. I doubt CNN wants posts riddled with emoticans.
  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Jul 27 2004, 03:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 27 2004, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think what you call "bland" they call professional. I doubt CNN wants posts riddled with emoticans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lies! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    When you need to design a board for a customer-base of 100.000+ people, you have to take a pretty minimalistic approach. Every people that does not understand something will go nagging to the tech.support, which costs money. When there is 50.000 people doing this, you have to get repetative and simple so that as many as possible understand what to do. Thus you get bland sites. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited July 2004
    Its a case of HCI and user groups. As online gamers, there is an assumed level of knowledge about internet use for this forum (and most others which use a phpBB/Invision setup). As an experienced group, we immediately understand what a thread or a post is, we understand BBcode, we understand login/registration. This enables the forum software targetted at our group to make available all of these features and make the prominent, as we will learn quickly and then either use existing control paths, or visual cues, to use the forums.

    However, a large proportion of internet users are not as experienced with forums, or indeed with browsing the web in general, and they need simplified interfaces which display a limited number of available options. This keeps their choice easy, and their browsing experience happy. These tasks are often reinforced with visual cues and very specific/leading language choice.

    A website will often also have tailored interfaces to suit the purpose of the website. For example, the BBC message boards have a very distinct category split, drilling down to a single very specific forum. The NS forums have the opposite, a wide range of forums for very similar topics (theyre all to do with NS, after all). On the official NS forums, of someone gets lost, they will most likely retrace their steps and keep searching. Theres no alternative. On sites which offer more generic categories, a user getting lost often means they will visit a competitor in future.

    I am intrieged to hear further arguments on why simple designs and interfaces are bad.
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    We're partially insane.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Maybe the $16,000 web designer they hired doesn't know how to make pretty forums.
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am intrieged to hear further arguments on why simple designs and interfaces are bad. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A matter of preference. I like of minimalistic approach, as you can see from my site, but some like of fancy stuff. Myself, I have noticed that younger people want the latter, and more mature simpler. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 05:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 05:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm going with Redford on this one.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 05:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 05:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    partially?
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 04:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 04:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    By 'we' you mean you and your other personalities, right?
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Less feature bloat means easier navigation for the non-savvy forum posters. It also saves bandwidth.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, speak for yourself.

    Partially? Bah...

    110% crackers here.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, speak for yourself.

    Partially? Bah...

    110% crackers here. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    graham? wheat? saltine? i personally prefer graham, they are tasty....... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, speak for yourself.

    Partially? Bah...

    110% crackers here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    graham? wheat? saltine? i personally prefer graham, they are tasty....... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mmm, cheezits.....
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Jul 28 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Jul 28 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, speak for yourself.

    Partially? Bah...

    110% crackers here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    graham? wheat? saltine? i personally prefer graham, they are tasty....... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mmm, cheezits..... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And this is why we are not alowed on CNN's forums.
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Jul 28 2004, 12:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 28 2004, 12:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Jul 28 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Jul 28 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, speak for yourself.

    Partially? Bah...

    110% crackers here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    graham? wheat? saltine? i personally prefer graham, they are tasty....... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mmm, cheezits..... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And this is why we are not alowed on CNN's forums. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    we arent?
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Jul 28 2004, 01:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Jul 28 2004, 01:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Jul 28 2004, 12:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 28 2004, 12:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Jul 28 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Jul 28 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Jul 28 2004, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Jul 28 2004, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Redford+Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Jul 27 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're partially insane. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, speak for yourself.

    Partially? Bah...

    110% crackers here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    graham? wheat? saltine? i personally prefer graham, they are tasty....... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mmm, cheezits..... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And this is why we are not alowed on CNN's forums. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    we arent? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now I feel like posting my sig on the CNN forums....

    I can see it now, tomorrow's headline:
    <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>NEW STUDY SHOWS INTERNET IMPAIRS SPELLING SKILLS</span></b>
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    It just such a waste i feel at time. Here are companies who spend thosands on their websites. But because the majority of user don't even know for example what a smiley is, they got to make it bland and simple.

    It kinda like having a high tech car with every conceivable control and features but to take it all out and just leave the steering wheel and accelerator and brake just because ppl would find it too confusing.

    I just want to be able to like for example post a smiley on CNN, and have the news reader pick my post by chance and like say "Blan Blah Blah <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> ". Now wont that look kewl on TV. Hehe

    True enough though that possibly that bandwith might be the issue.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    If you want to see a seriously brain damaged forum, check out the message boards at www.salon.com .

    Not knocking the site, but the message boards are horribly difficult to navigate.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    [Shameless self plug]

    What's wrong with <a href='http://forum.playzen.net' target='_blank'>mine, anyway</a>? I always thought they were quite nice.

    Ta Fam once again for the banner! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    - Shockwave
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    OCH MEIN BLAZING ****
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