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DY357LX · July 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Tell Me Your Driver Version, I Need Info</div> Morning all (9am-ish here)
I'm having some issues with XSI Softimage 3.5 for Half-Life 2.
(Read <a href='http://forum.softimage.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1958' target='_blank'>here</a> and <a href='http://forum.3dworldmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=3708' target='_blank'>here</a> if you info on that.)

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EDIT2: Second link has been updated to point directly to my topic
if you want to read about the problem i'm trying to solve.
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I'm starting to think that these Catalyst 4.7's are the cause.
So I need any and all ATI users to <b>please please please</b>
list what drivers you are currently using and your personal thoughts
on them. (Do they screw up textures in Battlefield 1942, have you noticed
oddities in UT2004, so on.)

I'm currently searching through Google for driver reviews, comparisons,
bench-marks, that kinda thing but they all seemed alittle out of date.

If someone could direct me to the ATI Driver Uninstaller that was mentioned
on these forums a few days ago I would be most thankful.
(I'll probably hunt it down myself with the search function in work later
anyways so no worries if no-one has it to hand.)

EDIT: <a href='http://ati.com/support/drivers/misc/catalystutils.html' target='_blank'>Uninstaller = found.</a>

Thanks in advance guys, hopefully see you in on an Air Buccaneers server
tonight (where i'll be hunting down OttoDestruct for popping my balloon
yesterday!) , now get listing those driver's ye scally wags!

Another Quick Update:
<a href='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.taylor2/downloads/DxDiag.txt' target='_blank'>My DxDiag.txt</a>

Mullet · July 2004

I use the newest <a href='http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-03-040610a-016126c.exe' target='_blank'>CATALYST Windows XP 4.7 drivers (direct link for Radeon - WINDOWS XP)</a>

The only problem I've had is with Rise of Nations. It could be the game and not my drivers, but whenever I hit quit to go to the main menu after a multiplayer game, the game just freezes....other than that, everything seems fine. (other than my video card having uber crap FPS in HL compared to 20 dollar nvidia cards <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> )

Nemesis_Zero · July 2004

The 4.7s seem to be prone to problems with the lightning processing. The maybe meanest case here is Thief 3, which I can't currently play as walls that <i>should</i> be dark are lit.

Caboose · July 2004

I havn't updated yet, this makes me think I'm rite in not doing so.

Version before 4.7 works fine for all the above games.

spinviper · July 2004

Wait for the OMEGA drivers, they Usually fix these kind of things. <a href='http://www.omegadrivers.net' target='_blank'>www.omegadrivers.net</a>

DY357LX · July 2004

I've heard alot of mixed opinions about the Omega drivers.
Some people love em in a rather scary way, others hate
them in the same fashion. For this reason i'm going to have
to stick with official driver releases from ATI and as well as
the fact that XSI will probably tell me that "unofficial" drivers
aren't supported by their program.

At the moment i'm planned to use the Catalyst 4.3's as
they're what I had before the format a few days ago.

Keep the info coming guys, it's very interesting and I'll
try and keep the list of known issues (Thief 3 wall lighting
problems for example) documented.

BigMadSteve · July 2004

I use the 4.6 Omega drivers (modified Catalysts). The only problem I have with them is that games seem to crash if you try to bump up the brightness within them (Max Payne 2 comes to mind).

EDIT: I typed this post and then was bumped offline before I could post then noticed your new one concerning the omegas after I posted, sorry <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Creepie · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ Jul 15 2004, 04:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Some people love em in a rather scary way  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Hehe - that's a good way of putting it.

Talesin · July 2004

Catalyst 4.7 official here, no problems to report. Actually, they seem a good bit faster than the 4.5s I was using before, given that I can max out the AA and AF, and still keep 100fps the majority of the time in NS... only dropping to about 50fps in a REALLY heavily cluttered Marine base.

What video card are you running? That *could* be contributing to your problem.

DY357LX · July 2004

It's a 9800 Pro from Sapphire. I'll edit this post to list
the entire card details when I get home. (In about 2 hours.)
While i'm at it i'll upload a DxDiag for that little bit more detail.
It seems to run everything else great, FarCry, UT2004, PainKiller etc.

Tonee · July 2004

xsi don't work on my comp either

I using version 6.14.10.5071

Sometimes XSI crashes on me, sometimes it loads up nicely but doesn't open scenes or make new scenes

DY357LX · July 2004

XSI itself works fine. I'm simply having some problems with
the rotoscope. I've updated my first post to point to my 3D World
forum topic with much more details on that problem if you want
to read it.

Vahn_Paktu · July 2004

4.7 Cats. 1 problem I have seen is my computer freezing and a) restarting, b) my screen refreshs like it's changing the screen size, c) Gettting a windows report in 640 *480 that I had a driver failure. This seems to happen most in Jumper and Jumper 2. It could be also long periods of time on. I think 1 factor is my install did not go perfectly. And I could not uninstall my old drivers.

Necrotic · July 2004

4.7's here and not a problem with them, in fact it fixed my inability to play AvP1 which is nice.

Wait actually I can't play HotD2 anymore, but I hadn't tried that for a while so it could have been broken for ages...

Dorian_Gray · July 2004

ATM I'm using the 3.1's due to the fact that any of the 4.x drivers caused a BSOD with a certain program, with a memory access error. I'm re-upgrading in a few minutes, once I get everything I need out of said certain program.

esuna · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jul 15 2004, 09:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The 4.7s seem to be prone to problems with the lightning processing. The maybe meanest case here is Thief 3, which I can't currently play as walls that <i>should</i> be dark are lit.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Roll back to 4.4 for that. It's a known problem for ATI, but to the best of my knowledge not fixed yet. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Nemesis_Zero · July 2004

I would, but I was just going to go back into the Rutherford mission, anyway <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Soylent_green · July 2004

The 3.6's atioglxx.dll(opengl driver) with the 4.2's controll panel and drivers. Using later openGL drivers cause just a bit more stuttering, though not worse framerates, in half-life. I don't play that many DX games except for the cheesy little direct draw 7 game I'm working on and assorted tech demos and stuff.

DY357LX · July 2004

*JUMPS UP ON HIS CHAIR, SHOUTS "BINGO BANGO!" AND SITS BACK DOWN*

Ladies and gentlemen.... thank you very much for your comments,
posts, opinions, information and attention.

ATI Catalyst Drivers version 4.3 have saved the day!
Everything is now working great and I can get back to learning
how to model things for Half-Life 2.

I used the uninstaller from the ATI site, shoved the 4.3's on,
launched XSI and it's working great!

I'd like to thank, *takes tatty piece of paper from pocket and
carefully unfolds it* "Lazy" from the 3D World forums for baring
with me and offering some nice advice, everyone who's posted
in this topic, the nice people at ATI for archieving their drivers
even though they're "unsupported", the weird bloke on holiday
who used to clap his hands together then swing the lamps above the bar
backwards and forwards and then scream "Bingo Bango!", and finally
the nice people in #nsbuccaneers for listening to me complain and
post /sysinfo into the channel :-D

See you in Air Buccaneers! Remember to launch X-Fire so we know to go!

Shockeh · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jul 15 2004, 10:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The 4.7s seem to be prone to problems with the lightning processing. The maybe meanest case here is Thief 3, which I can't currently play as walls that <i>should</i> be dark are lit.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Do we know if Thief 3's huge framerate drops in Caty versions greater than 4.4 has been resolved yet?

For some people it was a minor drop, for others it became completely unplayable.

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