I Was Missed Her.

Caboose

<div class="IPBDescription">So I installed her again.</div> I was going to put this in the mapping forum, they would probly appreciate it more... but...
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I wanted to play around with Qoole. It's been a while since I've used this puppy. Just thought I should share.

DOOManiac

Qoole does HL now? hmm..

Looks a lot like Quark too..

Caboose

Yep, that's Qoole. It's also Open source now.

w00t?

DOOManiac

w00t.

Too bad I hate hate hate mapping now. :P

Codeman

i think the source to it has been out for quite a while now :o

Caboose

Yea, a few years at least. But I havn't used qoole for like... longer than that...

Renegade

Is that the Village? If so, put more ammo spawns.

Tequila

Qoole? 'TIS NOT NORMAL.

Hammer is the divine path, anything else is heresy.

Mr_Headcrab

<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->


<--- Envious

Mantrid

<!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Jul 11 2004, 05:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Jul 11 2004, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Qoole? 'TIS NOT NORMAL.

Hammer is the divine path, anything else is heresy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This man speaks the truth.

Come back to the brethren Caboose. Follow not the false editors, lest ye be judged before the purity that is lord VALVe.

Long may Hammer guide and protect me.

Sniper_Chance

omg old buildings dont match with ns maek it FURITEISTIC!1`1

But seriously, that is a nice looking map. Is it for DoD?

Aldaris

<!--QuoteBegin-$niper Chance+Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ($niper Chance @ Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg old buildings dont match with ns maek it FURITEISTIC!1`1

But seriously, that is a nice looking map. Is it for DoD? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You might be able to figure it out if you look at the top left of the screenshot.

Cold_NiTe

<!--QuoteBegin-Aldaris+Jul 11 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aldaris @ Jul 11 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-$niper Chance+Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ($niper Chance @ Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg old buildings dont match with ns maek it FURITEISTIC!1`1

But seriously, that is a nice looking map. Is it for DoD? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You might be able to figure it out if you look at the top left of the screenshot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Owned. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (Erm... on second thought, perhaps I am owned as well... ZP = Zombie Panic??)

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<!--QuoteBegin-Foul Hammarite+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Foul Hammarite)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Another Foul Hammarite+Jul 11 2004, 05:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Another Foul Hammarite @ Jul 11 2004, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Qoole? 'TIS NOT NORMAL.

Hammer is the divine path, anything else is heresy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This man speaks the truth.

Come back to the brethren Caboose. Follow not the false editors, lest ye be judged before the purity that is lord VALVe.

Long may Hammer guide and protect me.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Don't listen to these HammArites/Mechanists! Quark for life! Power to the pagans!

Isamil

Since you're reading this...
Add more normal ammo, less shotgun ammo. Fix the 3 doors you can't open, if you squeeze into the boards you become almost invisible, and the door sometimes won't stop trying to close(making that REALLY ANNOYING sound)

Chaos_Llama

So which is better to use qoole or quark?

Cold_NiTe

<!--QuoteBegin-Chaos Llama+Jul 11 2004, 01:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chaos Llama @ Jul 11 2004, 01:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So which is better to use qoole or quark? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either, as long as you are not a HammArite dog.

Aldaris

<!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Jul 11 2004, 06:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Jul 11 2004, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Aldaris+Jul 11 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aldaris @ Jul 11 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-$niper Chance+Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ($niper Chance @ Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg old buildings dont match with ns maek it FURITEISTIC!1`1

But seriously, that is a nice looking map. Is it for DoD? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You might be able to figure it out if you look at the top left of the screenshot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Owned. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (Erm... on second thought, perhaps I am owned as well... ZP = Zombie Panic??)
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Cold-Nite wins the cookie.

Cold_NiTe

<!--QuoteBegin-Aldaris+Jul 11 2004, 01:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aldaris @ Jul 11 2004, 01:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Jul 11 2004, 06:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Jul 11 2004, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Aldaris+Jul 11 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aldaris @ Jul 11 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-$niper Chance+Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ($niper Chance @ Jul 11 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg old buildings dont match with ns maek it FURITEISTIC!1`1

But seriously, that is a nice looking map. Is it for DoD? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You might be able to figure it out if you look at the top left of the screenshot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Owned. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (Erm... on second thought, perhaps I am owned as well... ZP = Zombie Panic??)
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cold-Nite wins the cookie. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is that cookie.... a <i>DEATH</i> cookie?

....

Because I like those ya know.

Mantrid

ANY cookie is a Death Cookie <i>if</i> you eat it for Christ.

DOOManiac

pfft.
DCK pwns all of your sissy little map editors!

Caboose

I use Radiant normally. Hammer = teh sux. It's just slightly more productive that Qoole, while Radiant is verry productive.

But since Qoole is open source, I think I'll improve upon the productivity of it and make it a 1337 editor once again. In other words, worp it so muck that it is no longer recognisable as Qoole.

Anyone up for a project? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Nemesis_Zero

Oh please, stop the editor feud. Use whatever the hell you are comfortable with, be that qoole, quark, Radiant, Hammer, or Windows Notepad, and let the rest of the world enjoy itself in kind.

Caboose

But... I must convert <b>all</b> to Radiant users...

Tequila

<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jul 11 2004, 09:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jul 11 2004, 09:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But... I must convert <b>all</b> to Radiant users... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Never! When HL2 rolls round you'll flounder, smashed by the glory of a revamped, righteous Hammer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

Caboose

No, I'll use the HL2 plugin.

And when Doom3 rolls around, you'll wish you had been using Radiant.

Nemesis_Zero

Wasn't DOOM based on an all-new, fully integrated editor with real-time lightning clactulation? (Feel free to slap me into shape on that one, I'm currently on a writing binge and thus out of the loop.)

Tequila

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I think it uses a vastly upgraded form of Radiant, which indeed can be ran to some extent while inside the game.

I've actually used Radiant, Caboose, back when I dipped into RTCW and SOF2 mapping. It's quite similar to Hammer, except notably camera movement and keyboard shortcuts are different and the vertex editing is weaker. I'm sure I'll pick it up just fine for Doom 3 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

Caboose

The vertex editing is weaker?

Really, in the sense that Radiant has vertex editing, VHE can't touch it. Radiant vas vertex manipulationthat allows you to move one vertex at a time as well as the hammer like edge manipulation. Not to mention Brush skewing and that it keeps the brush scale of the previous brush. Also, you can edit things in the 3d window.

Not to mention you can actually use the mouse wheel in the texture window...

Caboose

:edit:
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From what I understand, it's based on Radiant. It will have similar functionality.

Real edit... I hit edit... WTH?

:2nd real edit:

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The game will ship with a new version of the Radiant map editor.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.fileplanet.com/comingsoon/doom3/' target='_blank'>http://www.fileplanet.com/comingsoon/doom3/</a>

Tequila

<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jul 11 2004, 11:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jul 11 2004, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The vertex editing is weaker?

Really, in the sense that Radiant has vertex editing, VHE can't touch it. Radiant vas vertex manipulationthat allows you to move one vertex at a time as well as the hammer like edge manipulation. Not to mention Brush skewing and that it keeps the brush scale of the previous brush. Also, you can edit things in the 3d window.

Not to mention you can actually use the mouse wheel in the texture window... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Funny, the developers of RTCW and SOF2 exported their Radiant map files to Worldcraft <i>solely</i> for the purpose of vertex editing. I've made cliff faces using both editors, and while it isn't easy in either, Hammer gives you more control. Of course, this was GTKRadiant, standard Radiant has that God-awful camera control that I can't live with.

Caboose

What, having to use arrows instead of wasd?

And proove that they did that? I'd like proofe please? Because I seriously doubt that.