Jeskola Buzz

OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
edited July 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">For all your music-making needs...</div> <a href='http://www.buzzmachines.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.buzzmachines.com/</a>

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Jeskola Buzz is a music program that just happens to be absolutely free. You get the whole deal, all plugins available, no registering, no blah. <b>It is the best program I have downloaded this summer.</b> As the title suggests, it's basically a program that lets you make music from almost scratch. I mean, this sucker has freakin infinite possibilities.

I know a few of you guys use/used to use Buzz, so if you have, go ahead and post your praise of the program here. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

And to guys that have no experience with Buzz who want to try it...It takes time to get a hang of it. It seems ridiculously complex at first, but it's not. It takes a few days of Trial and Error to "get it," and for the love of Jewish Buddah, <b>read the tutorial!</b>

If you are interested in getting into the music scene and are just beginning, I might not recommend this to you, but if you do try it and stick with it, you'll have a blast with it (or at least I did).
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited July 2004
    So this thing is basicly a somewhat advanced synthisizer? Does it have a sampler? does it have an effects engine? What kind of synths does it run?

    [edit] to clarify, I have used both fruity loops and reason, and I'm trying to get a gauge on how well this stacks up. The whole 'its free' thing helps out already... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    edited July 2004
    Correct Answer:
    D) All Of The Above And More.

    Everything you will ever need, in a nice neat bundle. And in addition, if there's something you want that's not on the program, you can probably find it on their website for download.

    [edit to respond to your edit] While I have never used Reason, I do know it pwns Fruity Loops.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 7 2004, 02:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 7 2004, 02:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Correct Answer:
    D) All Of The Above And More.

    Everything you will ever need, in a nice neat bundle. And in addition, if there's something you want that's not on the program, you can probably find it on their website for download. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    IE, it supports plugins?
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    Yes. Just look around the website.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 7 2004, 02:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 7 2004, 02:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes. Just look around the website. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sold <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    Woohoo! There's one down! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'll check this out when I get home tonite. Maybe I'll make a few songs I can scratch to- actually, does it allow you to compile the songs as MP3s, WAVs, WMAs, and the such?
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Can you make any type of music? Or is it just like, a souped up Punk-o-matic?
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    I used it a long time ago. The complexity was a turn off and made me quit.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    It seems insanely complicated, even the install bombarded me with random options and plugins, including one which offered to uninstall the whole program after the install was finished, which confused me <i>slightly</i>.

    Now, any idea where I can find a basic, no-nonsense tutorial to teach me the ropes? I've looked around but had no such luck.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Jul 7 2004, 02:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Jul 7 2004, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seems insanely complicated, even the install bombarded me with random options and plugins, including one which offered to uninstall the whole program after the install was finished, which confused me <i>slightly</i>.

    Now, any idea where I can find a basic, no-nonsense tutorial to teach me the ropes? I've looked around but had no such luck. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think you hit F1.

    Can anyone answer my question? I think I'll download it either way <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Piece of crap crashes at start :\
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    *Ahem*

    I'm pretty sure the answer to all of your questions are in the Buzz FAQ that is on the website. And if it isn't there, it can direct you to a message board for help. If youre looking for an easier guide, I'm sure there's one you can find on the site.

    Yes, it is fairly complicated, but like I said, give it time! Experiment with things! If there's something you don't understand, mess around with it! And if you do something bad like putting the Audio Output to a software that doesn't have any drivers, Jeskola even comes with a Fix application that resets all the settings to default.

    <b>Please</b> use the tutorial first thing. Just go to File, Open, and open "Tutorial.bmx"
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 7 2004, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 7 2004, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> *Ahem*

    I'm pretty sure the answer to all of your questions are in the Buzz FAQ that is on the website. And if it isn't there, it can direct you to a message board for help. If youre looking for an easier guide, I'm sure there's one you can find on the site.

    Yes, it is fairly complicated, but like I said, give it time! Experiment with things! If there's something you don't understand, mess around with it! And if you do something bad like putting the Audio Output to a software that doesn't have any drivers, Jeskola even comes with a Fix application that resets all the settings to default.

    <b>Please</b> use the tutorial first thing. Just go to File, Open, and open "Tutorial.bmx" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /sulk The answer to <i>my</i> question wasn't there.

    /sob in a corner
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    The tutorial was going swimmingly until it asked me to "define a note like you would in any other tracker", which proved pretty damn hard to do. This is more trouble than it's worth.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    I'm getting it for the simple reason I need something to fill up my HD. Who knows, I may use it some day too.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Jul 7 2004, 04:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Jul 7 2004, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The tutorial was going swimmingly until it asked me to "define a note like you would in any other tracker", which proved pretty damn hard to do. This is more trouble than it's worth. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude. I had no idea what that meant either, but I'm guessing it meant "enter some notes." Which isn't too difficult once you know which keys are what notes.

    It is definitely worth the trouble, man. I'd show some stuff I made today within 15 minutes of messing around, but there's the whole "not having a host for my stuff" thing...
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Jul 7 2004, 10:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 7 2004, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can you make any type of music? Or is it just like, a souped up Punk-o-matic? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Technically, it is aimed more towards the electronic stuff, but with the right machines and plugins, yes. Any type of music.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 7 2004, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 7 2004, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Jul 7 2004, 10:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 7 2004, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can you make any type of music? Or is it just like, a souped up Punk-o-matic? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Technically, it is aimed more towards the electronic stuff, but with the right machines and plugins, yes. Any type of music. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You make your own loops, drums, everything. So if you find the insrumental samples for the style you want, sure, you can make anything. Or you can take a piano or guitar riff recorded to wav, and throw it in, put effects on it, pretty much anything you want with the right plugin.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    edited July 2004
    After getting permission from a pal of mine, I present to you, <a href='http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=download&id=5295' target='_blank'>a little something</a> he made when he first just got into Buzz. Now, of course, he is quite gifted in making music, which means you shouldn't feel bad if your productions don't sound as good. In fact, he's very gifted.

    Anyways, that's a little something that shows some of what Jeskola Buzz can do. The song is called "The Drums" made by "The Fat's Saobobah", aka "jewpinthethird" for those of you who play FFR. Enjoy it!

    Edit: mkay, hold on sec, gotta figure out a solution (unless one of you can provide a host that doesn't use signup crap).

    Edit: Got it. After going through three sites of free mp3 hosting crap I decided to do this instead:

    Go to <a href='http://www.flashflashrevolution.com' target='_blank'>Flash Flash Revolution</a>.
    On the left-hand side you will see a Username and Password login.
    For Username, type in "NSForumMember"
    For Password, type in "flayra"
    Check the "Remember Me" thing.
    Click "Let me in"
    Once you are logged in, try the link and you should be able to download it.

    *Whew*
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Says I'm not authorized, <a href='http://www.internetdj.com/' target='_blank'>Free MP3 Host</a>
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    edited July 2004
    Alright, see if my method works. I couldn't figure out how to submit anything on that website once I was registered.
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-JezPuh+Jul 7 2004, 12:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Jul 7 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Piece of crap crashes at start :\ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So, you were hasty and didn't set the buzz.exe's compatiability mode to "Windows NT"? This is a known fix for WinXP/2000 startup crash, and IIRC stated in the FAQ too. Also, running Nvidia's NView is a bad idea while Buzzing.

    And nobody whine about the bugs. The program's source was lost quite some time ago and the programmer hasn't been able to do any patch work on it. An american guy decompiled it and is making his own version, Buzzle, which is supposed to be Buzz but without any odd bugs. It's in the alpha stage now, but looks promising.

    Anyway, about buzz:

    I've been an avid Buzzer since 1998 and I love the program. Armed to the teeth with all the extra gear downloaded from BuzzMachines, I've got just about anything I could have ever asked for. Buzz really beats the living **** out of clumsy, more style than content programs like Reason. Don't believe me? Okay, find any other sequencer that can process this kind of an effect chain in real time while recording it to wav, and simultaneously taking ASIO input from a microphone, processing the sound and outputting it both to speakers and the wav being recorded:
    <img src='http://personal.inet.fi/private/scinet/connections.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    And yeah, with the proper tools there's no reason this little marvel can't be used for a live show.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> Sexcellent stuff, Scinet.

    But what's this? Bass 3 only gets a Delay? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyways, you got any tunes to share? I'm not getting much luck over here...
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 8 2004, 02:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 8 2004, 02:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Alright, see if my method works. I couldn't figure out how to submit anything on that website once I was registered. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ya, sorry its a bit rediculously complicated. Technically its supposed to be a mix made music sharing comunity, but they just happen to convieniently host MP3 files for you (they reject anything but music you made, but other than that...)
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 8 2004, 03:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 8 2004, 03:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> Sexcellent stuff, Scinet.

    But what's this? Bass 3 only gets a Delay? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyways, you got any tunes to share? I'm not getting much luck over here... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And Bass33 gets no effects? WTH!? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Tunes to share? Here you go. Both are unfinished, though the IDMish piece was premastered before converting to MP3.

    <a href='http://personal.inet.fi/private/scinet/Untitled_IDM_piece.mp3' target='_blank'>http://personal.inet.fi/private/scinet/Unt...d_IDM_piece.mp3</a>
    This is a little something in the vein of Somatic Responses, though not quite as complicated. The song lacks an intro,its progression is a bit chunky at times, and it's plagued by an incredibly cheap main snare sound, but I do think I did a good job on mixing and producing.

    <a href='http://personal.inet.fi/private/scinet/rhythmic_noise_wip.mp3' target='_blank'>http://personal.inet.fi/private/scinet/rhy...c_noise_wip.mp3</a> (excerpt)
    I'm working on this one at the moment. I need to redo the beats so they'd sound more aggressive and less traditional. All the harsh noise instruments are actually heavily processed Padsyns.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    Awesome, dude. You are pwn.

    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Psst. How does the Chord Wizard work?</span>
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    THe link doesn't work for me... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omegaman!+Jul 8 2004, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omegaman! @ Jul 8 2004, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Awesome, dude. You are pwn.

    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Psst. How does the Chord Wizard work?</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks, mate.

    And about the chord wizard, I have absolutely no idea. I've forgotten everything I ever learned about music theory back when I was a kid - heck, I can't even read notes anymore. That's why my method is to go with the flow, and if I need a melody, create it by fooling around in the tracker patterns. The bassline is always the one that directs the entire song's movement, so that's the one to tune the rest of your stuff to.

    But the way I'm going now, as is quite evident by the song I'm working on, is based on the following philosophy: "**** melodies. Pure noise is much more gratifying and the body responds to it better."
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    edited July 2004
    I'm gonna give this a try.... I needed a way to compose some stuff. Can you make sheet music with it?
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