I've decided to try FC1 (i386) due to the dual boot issue with 2 I've heard about (from you guys and the fedora IRC room). My only question now is, would someone help a complete linux noob to set up lilo? Actually I should probably ask this after I finish reformating so I can get a FAT32 partition out of my harddrive. (stupid me in formating the whole thing)
From my "experience", just let windows and its ntloader take care of the dualbooting. XP (maybe 2000 too?) just doesnt like being booted by something else.
I'm running 2000. I'd prefer Lilo as thats the program I've seen used... eh.. when I say complete Linux noob... I can move around the file structure... thats about it... Which one would be easier to setup, Lilo or Grub?
Well, I was able to comment out one of the boot kernals and also change the boot default from winxp to linux and also change the time from 3 sec to 5 sec in GRUB. I never could do that in Lilo. :P
just edit /boot/grub/grub.conf, its very straightforward if you've ever edited a ini file before
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Uh... Doomeh, LILO is configured the same way. :b GRUB is just more obfuscated and 'ooh pretty-flashy' graphical, which you really don't need in a bootstrap sequence. Not to mention buggier and less-tested. GRUB is why FC2 has 'dual boot issues'... they don't let you CHOOSE to use LILO from the outset. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Plus, XP only 'dislikes' being booted by something else if you install it SECOND. Install it first, then toss on Linux. No problems.
Oh, and if you plan on running XP (NTFS) and Linux, you'll WANT a FAT32 partition/drive. Linux can READ from NTFS safely, but thanks to how screwed up NTFS is, it cannot WRITE safely. Meaning if you want to bring anything over from the Linux side to the Windows side, you're pretty much screwed without a FAT32 'transfer' partition or fileserver machine to act as a 'third hand'. I keep a 60GB partition for transfers, as well as programs that dislike being installed on NTFS. (aka: anything that does true low level, high-speed disk access)
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Jun 18 2004, 06:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jun 18 2004, 06:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Plus, XP only 'dislikes' being booted by something else if you install it SECOND. Install it first, then toss on Linux. No problems. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Knowing this beforehand, Ive always let XP take first partition. Still dont stop it from hating being booted by GRUB.
On NTFS, I heard you can use something called Captive-NTFS, which uses Windows' own files to access files on the NTFS partitions. In THEORY, this seems to allow safe read/writes. I never had to opportunity to fully test this out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Jun 18 2004, 06:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jun 18 2004, 06:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh, and if you plan on running XP (NTFS) and Linux, you'll WANT a FAT32 partition/drive. Linux can READ from NTFS safely, but thanks to how screwed up NTFS is, it cannot WRITE safely. Meaning if you want to bring anything over from the Linux side to the Windows side, you're pretty much screwed without a FAT32 'transfer' partition or fileserver machine to act as a 'third hand'. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, because having proper file journaling is soooooo screwed up. Note that this was an alien concept to Linux file systems until very recently. It's so much better to simply have a power failure lose or corrupt all your data.
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p.s. GRUB > Lilo
just edit /boot/grub/grub.conf, its very straightforward if you've ever edited a ini file before
It's really easy to work with, I used to use it when I dualbooted with XP
WinXP had no problems booting when I had it setup that way either.
Plus, XP only 'dislikes' being booted by something else if you install it SECOND. Install it first, then toss on Linux. No problems.
Oh, and if you plan on running XP (NTFS) and Linux, you'll WANT a FAT32 partition/drive. Linux can READ from NTFS safely, but thanks to how screwed up NTFS is, it cannot WRITE safely. Meaning if you want to bring anything over from the Linux side to the Windows side, you're pretty much screwed without a FAT32 'transfer' partition or fileserver machine to act as a 'third hand'.
I keep a 60GB partition for transfers, as well as programs that dislike being installed on NTFS. (aka: anything that does true low level, high-speed disk access)
Knowing this beforehand, Ive always let XP take first partition. Still dont stop it from hating being booted by GRUB.
On NTFS, I heard you can use something called Captive-NTFS, which uses Windows' own files to access files on the NTFS partitions. In THEORY, this seems to allow safe read/writes. I never had to opportunity to fully test this out.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, because having proper file journaling is soooooo screwed up. Note that this was an alien concept to Linux file systems until very recently. It's so much better to simply have a power failure lose or corrupt all your data.
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Back on topic, yo ho, yo ho.