RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
edited June 2004 in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">Still working on it :)</div> So i'm still working on this map with two other guys now. Not many people have shown any interest. But I don't really care. I will take off the quote in a week or a few days or something. Anyways. This part of the map is being detailed now. Yay! Here is the stuff. Please leave comments etc.

Also before anymore texture and lighting flaming happens. I am a n00b mapper. And happy to admit. The lights and texturing will be changed later on as they are only there so I can look at the rest of the map actually in game.


KB | -Ripzaw-

<b><u>Beta Testers(So I can get some kind of feedback)</b></u>
I dunno. Anyone wanna test the map before it's finished to tell me what to change?

<u><b>Thanks to</b></u>

Dark Soul

Thanks to all the support, Hints, tips and info i'm getting from you guys and will probably get in the future.
Thanks to people working with me to make this map

Overview Key - <a href='http://www.invicta-universe.com/ripzaw/ns_horus/key.gif' target='_blank'>Click Here</a>
Overview - <a href='http://www.invicta-universe.com/ripzaw/ns_horus/part1.gif' target='_blank'>Click Here</a>
Marine Spawn - <a href='http://www.invicta-universe.com/ripzaw/ns_horus/pics/Marine%20Spawn/' target='_blank'>Click Here</a>
Cryogenic Research - <a href='http://www.invicta-universe.com/ripzaw/ns_horus/pics/Cryogenic%20Research/' target='_blank'>Click Here</a>
Specimen Testing - Removed for editting. As people can't take a joke.
Zig-Zag Corridor - <a href='http://www.invicta-universe.com/ripzaw/ns_horus/pics/Zig-Zag%20corridor/' target='_blank'>Click Here</a>

If anyone wants to texture the map then feel free to apply. If noone does i'll have to use what I feel is good... Although I suck <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Map ideas are:

Marine Start - Science parts of the base. As you can see.

Hive 1 - A broken down Marine Base. The Marines have retreated from there and relocated to the Science Labs where they must restart with the fast growing Kharaa.

Hive 2 - Canteen. Pretty simple. Canteen overrun. Might use that steak model lol. Tables been turned over, infestation coming from the hive. You know the stuff.

Hive 3 - Barracks. Again pretty simple. Gun racks tossed over. Can't pick up the guns. Security room ajoining at the back of the baracks. Need to weld into it. Has weldables in there which open certain doors and turn off some gas(maybe)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    I wanted to shout "I WANT TO BE BETATESTER!" because I love new maps created by other mappers than me ^^ some have really cool ideas.

    that was before I came across the expression "funmap"...
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    How far completed is this map?
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    Gray must be the new black <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlackPlagueBlackPlague Join Date: 2004-02-02 Member: 25990Banned
    u know this is the name of <a href='http://www.nsmovie.digitaldx.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.nsmovie.digitaldx.com/</a> 's movie space ship right? lol
  • HanzGrub3rHanzGrub3r Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26823Members
    <b>-RipZaw-</b> - I must say, at first I was going to be encouraging towards you. The screenshots, whilst bland, aren't bad. The architecture is fairly weak and the texturing is next to non-existant - all forgivable because, my guess is that, you are new to mapping. But when I saw the screenshot with the texture with the swearing - I just thought to myself "why would I waste my time encouraging someone who so blatently has no concept as to what NS is all about?"

    I can't believe I'm still typing.

    I will say this though, and people may call me lame for flaming you but here goes:

    You are arguably one of the worst mappers I've ever come across. You have next to no style, you have no clue about architecture, your texturing is horrible and the lighting scheme combined with the blandness of the textures is painful to behold. You should give up now.

    And next time - before you decide to put a screenshot (with swearing in it) on a forum of a game that is supposed to be for all ages - THINK! Why do you think that forum posts with swearing are automatically censored? If I posted a screenshot with a porn in it, I'd probably get banned - This is no different.

    Shape up or ship out.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    It's 'nigh' by the way, not 'nie'. You really should remove it, it's just sad <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    Since we're being spelling nazis.... it's spelled specimen.
  • RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
    Lol... I just put that in as a small joke... I'll remove that screenshot and the swearing etc. Sorry... Didn't mean to offend.

    <span style='color:red'>HanzGrub3r</span> - Maybe I should edit the first post to say "THIS IS ONLY THE BASIC LAYOUT. TEXTURING AND LIGHTING HAS NOT BEEN SORTED YET". But hey... Maybe I should give up now.. I mean... When you first start mapping you must be great at architecture and amazing with the tools. So yeah... I suck.. So what? At least i'm trying. Plus Half-Life was rated 15. So all ages it isn't.

    <span style='color:red'>BlackPlague</span> - Did know that but I didn't get the name from it. I got the name from a guy I know online called Hazza.

    <span style='color:red'>Forlorn</span> - Not very far... About 15% maybe. I've done more than the screenshots but not detailed at all.

    <span style='color:red'>Lt.Gravity</span> - I can't really see how it's a "funmap" tbh.

    <span style='color:red'>ShdwStal </span> - Ta for the spelling correction... Wasn't sure how to spell that lol <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> Half Life is a 15?

    Whoops <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    And anyway, its been said before that the NS mod is for all ages, whether Half Life is or not...

    ...but you removed it, so it doesnt matter so much anymore <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
    I thought the HL mods were the same age certificate as HL itself? Well if not then oops.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Wow, I've never seen such vicious attacks at a n00b mapper before in my entire life... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Kinda, harsh, dontcha think?
  • RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Recoup+Jun 14 2004, 02:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Recoup @ Jun 14 2004, 02:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, I've never seen such vicious attacks at a n00b mapper before in my entire life... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Kinda, harsh, dontcha think? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *Shugs* I don't care... Not gonna stop me trying. So if they wanna attack/flame me they can... I just won't stop trying and updaing.
  • DarkSeraphDarkSeraph Join Date: 2004-06-07 Member: 29174Members
    I like cryogen, that's kinda cool looking, but you really need to work on your lighting, different color lights can add a lot, and a little more architecture in the marine spawn( i have the same prob and need to add stuff). do keep it PG rated, i remember playing with an 10yr old the other day <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> zigzag corridor is REALLY skinny, gonna give aliens a huge advantage there, so i hope that's near a hive.

    btw, constructive criticism, there is no reason to chastise him, too much, whatever profanity was there doesn't belong, and it's NOT a joke, but please move on people.
  • RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
    I'm going to start work on the textures/lighting sometime at the end of this week. I'll make the zig-zag corridor a little wider though so marines can see down it easier. Plus sorry about the swearing thing. Ta for the help <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ... Gonna need to figure out how to use the light_spot's proplerly.

    How would you make it look like an object is emitting the light? I know how to direct it etc. Just don;t know how to make something emit the light. Can someone point me in the right direction there?
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    glad your still working on it can i be a tester?

    offtopic/ recoup change your sig its too big max size is 400x75 admins will just remove it
  • RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
    Yeah sure... I'll start sorting lights and textures soon so please ignore them. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HanzGrub3rHanzGrub3r Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26823Members
    <b>-Ripzaw-</b> - If you re-read my post you'll see that I'm all for helping people out with their maps. Put it this way - I was deeply frustrated with you putting in that spray paint texture. It goes against everything Flayra wanted in NS ...and to be perfectly honest - it is entirely unneccessary... but assuming you've taken it out - cool...no problems here.. good luck with the rest of the map
  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    edited June 2004
    Hey Ripzaw, nice idea for the little Cryogen room u got there, hrm ill be watchin your progress to see how it goes, stick to it man and forget about the flaming, listen to criticisim and you will have a nice map in no time.... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Oh and in the later stages if you need a playtester, ill be there!
  • persoperso Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13740Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    edited June 2004
    I was going to post earlier, but forums went down. Anyways here you go...

    As always when I see someone making a ns classic map, good luck with the map! NS needs more classic style maps with all those numerous combat maps. Now for comments...

    I'm not going to criticize the lighting cause you told us it's there just so you could see how you put everything in your map (correct?). I'm very sure indeed your map would look way much better if you experienced a little with different lighting and put some good textures in it.

    The biggest problem in your map is that your rooms look too small and hallways too narrow. Marine start looks small.. ofcourse there are exceptions like ns_nancy or I just prefer bigger areas.. but think about it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The architecture isn't bad considering you are new to mapping. Your rooms could use some more detail:

    -using different levels, ie \_____/ /-------\ couldn't find words for them ;D
    -support pillars are very good way to please eye and give aliens some cover
    -used correct windows looking to space can widen your room. Use them in places that aren't actually very big.
    -try thinking a theme for your map. Ie. If you are making a battlecarrier themed map and suddenly you are out of new ideas, try thinking what there has to be in that kind of space vessel.

    I usually look for ideas in surrounding world. Just a little imagination.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    At last, be patient. Mapping a good map can really take time. The kind of map you have fun with when mapping is always the best choise. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    [edit] corrected typos ;p
  • RipzawRipzaw Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28560Members
    HanzGrub3r - It's taken out... Sorry about that.

    Steel Troll - Lol... I'll take in play testers anytime. Thanks about the Cryogen commentry <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Dragoni - Ta for that adivece... The cryogen will change only a little for the moment. Mainly because it is small and directly next to Marine Spawn. Though have a res node in there might not be the best of ideas. I might move it further away and keep the node in there anyways. I know what you mean about the levels aswell... I'll add it all this week or next. Not sure what theme i'm going to have. I was thinking Eclipse but I might make it look like Mineshaft.
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