Stop Under-thinking Every "balance" Idea
ApolloGX
Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20817Members
Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20817Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Think about it from the other side</div> I'm sick of people always coming up with some "great" idea because, for example, they expired their 8 shotgun shots and wished they could switch to their HMG.
"If marines had two weapons it would be so much better"
God knows if -somehow- this gets into the next build we will get plenty of complaints of..
"I was biting this marine and he had a shotty then he pulled out his HMG and killed me, it is SO unbalanced"
So for god sakes, think about both sides of your argument. And since NS is already balanced now, in order to make it better you are going to have to change something on both sides. Think of it like an algebraic equation, you can't just add one thing to one side and not the other.
Hopefully this will minimize some of the crazy -ideas- we get.
TY
"If marines had two weapons it would be so much better"
God knows if -somehow- this gets into the next build we will get plenty of complaints of..
"I was biting this marine and he had a shotty then he pulled out his HMG and killed me, it is SO unbalanced"
So for god sakes, think about both sides of your argument. And since NS is already balanced now, in order to make it better you are going to have to change something on both sides. Think of it like an algebraic equation, you can't just add one thing to one side and not the other.
Hopefully this will minimize some of the crazy -ideas- we get.
TY
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trust me. The S&I forum has been like that for over a year, and It will most likely stay that way.
Surely you mean Oni? ^_^
Anyway, good luck getting more balanced ideas in the S&I.
"If marines had two weapons it would be so much better"
God knows if -somehow- this gets into the next build we will get plenty of complaints of..
"I was biting this marine and he had a shotty then he pulled out his HMG and killed me, it is SO unbalanced"
So for god sakes, think about both sides of your argument. And since NS is already balanced now, in order to make it better you are going to have to change something on both sides. Think of it like an algebraic equation, you can't just add one thing to one side and not the other.
Hopefully this will minimize some of the crazy -ideas- we get.
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God knows if -somehow- this gets into the next build we will get plenty of complaints of..
See above post?
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Just practice. =]
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Just practice. =] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Plus it's obvious you didn't use that, since if you do, you'll notice that "OMG," "WTH," "WTH," and "LOL" are randomly inserted in your sentences. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Nice, w tf gets changed to WTH by the filter. Werd...... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I don't like that tone of voice of mister.
Is there some way to really tell if the two sides are balanced? Some meta-analysis of server stats.
Lately, every time I play it seems like the Marines are owning the Aliens.
Then there are the fools who won't think their idea through whatsoever. These are the people who think they know more about games than anyone around them, their idea will fix everything and there will never be any problems with the game from then on. I should know, my brothers one of them.
Then there are the fools who won't think their idea through whatsoever. These are the people who think they know more about games than anyone around them, their idea will fix everything and there will never be any problems with the game from then on. I should know, my brothers one of them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
true, and most ideas are bad
/puts on nub voice
"Right what we do is have each alien in a room give + 1 res to the gorge, and +2 armour to everyone else, however if they get hit by a pistol these are multiplied by pi, but if its a shotgun or hmg they are squared by 4.356323, a gl or an lmg and its 2.5 * 2.7349, then the total health of all aliens and marines in the area is taken and averaged this is then the amount of cloak + regen the aliens get when they are bhoping, if they dont do that then we give them double the amount cause it helps out those who cant bhop"
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/puts on nub voice
"Right what we do is have each alien in a room give + 1 res to the gorge, and +2 armour to everyone else, however if they get hit by a pistol these are multiplied by pi, but if its a shotgun or hmg they are squared by 4.356323, a gl or an lmg and its 2.5 * 2.7349, then the total health of all aliens and marines in the area is taken and averaged this is then the amount of cloak + regen the aliens get when they are bhoping, if they dont do that then we give them double the amount cause it helps out those who cant bhop"
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Put it in that 12 year old aoler thing and it would look just right. I&S forums do have alot of bad suggestions some of them just some fast thought such as the one where the guy says "I think I invented this idea about the maybe putting an alien that can control a marines mind or some sort and this could be like a new alien". I heard that on these forums and 2 more. Both same thing starting with I think I created this idea.
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trust me. The S&I forum has been like that for over a year, and It will most likely stay that way. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you kidding? If anything it'll get dumber.
Note: The alien team was much worse off considering the players on each team. But then again, it might just be the silence/cara combo skulks with ?berleap. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i think this is why (in public servers) people start leaving - because they know if they are going to win or lose about half way through!
and if you know your going to lose, its not only 'not fun' but a slow death at that.
Note: The alien team was much worse off considering the players on each team. But then again, it might just be the silence/cara combo skulks with ?berleap. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For one, if it honestly took 10 minutes or more for the marines to finally kick into serious action then that is one of those *mistakes* that was mentioned earlier that often lead to alien wins. If in fact the alien team was just goofing off for 10 minutes, it would be highly likely on most servers I frequent that either the marines would be living in and spawncamping the hive... not to mention having fairly securely locked down both of the other hives and having a significant number of upgrades to make life that much more depressing for the aliens. Also assuming that the aliens were "goofing off" for that long it stands to reason that the marines probably were too.
Bottom line, this hardly typifies a normal game... even by pub standards (at least the majority of pubs *I* visit). I even have a difficult time seeing it by nub standards. Even nubs who don't know how to play well will usually still TRY to play well. Sounds to me like the server was simply visited by the "L4M3 F4K70RZ," a very contagious and destructive disease that attacks the neural synapses of humans playing on an infected server thus reverting a would-be super-genious to the likes of a gelatinous, puss-infested ooze. Symptoms include sub-nub accuracy, obvious and ill chosen campsites, excessive use of explitives and otherwise unintelligible "1337 5P34K"-aspiring utterances, explicit disregard to teamwork and/or orders, obsessive display of interest in things such as armouries and elevators, and death.... repeatedly.
EDIT: sp.
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priceless
RIGHT WUT WE DO IS HAEV EACH ALEIN IN A ROM GIEV + 1 RES 2 TEH GORGE AND +2 ARMOUR 2 3VERYON3 ELS3 HOWEV3R IF THAY G3T HIT BY A PIS2L TH3SE R MULTIPLEID BY PI BUT IF ITS A SHOTGUN OR HMG THEY R SQUAERD BY 4356323!11!!11 OMG WTH A GL OR AN LMG AND ITS 251!!! OMG LOL * 27349!111!!1 OMG THEN TEH 2TAL HAALTH OF AL ALEINS AND MARIENS IN TEH AERA IS TAEKN AND AEVRAEGD THIS IS THEN DA MOUNT OF CLOAK + REGEN TEH ALEINS GAT WHAN TH3Y R BHOPNG IF THAY DONT DO TAHT TH3N WE GIEV THEM DOUBLE TEH MOUNT CAUSE IT H3LPS OUT THOSE WHO CANT BHOP
brain...hurts....ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!