I Love Knights Of The Old Republic.
KungFuSquirrel
Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Now help me find more!</div> Just managed a solid 2 hour round* on Knights of the Old Republic last night. I'm absolutely loving that game. I haven't gotten into a role-playing game for a loooong time... The Diablo series is really most of my 'RPG' experience to date, and the last game I played anything like KOTOR was Anachronox, which I never finished (though I might now go back and play again in my spare time after I move).
Jade Empire is looking incredible - just watched the video for that yesterday. But of course it's not out yet, and neither is KOTOR2. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Anything anyone can recommend that I should get into? I only have an Xbox and Gamecube at the moment, but feel free to suggest PS2 titles as well, as a combination of ICO, the Jak series, and the Ratchet and Clank series has been enough to convince me to snag one (and yes, I'm turning into a console platforum junkie).
...and yes, these crazy "looking for game recommendation" posts are going to kinda be the norm for me in the future <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
* this is a lot for me. I usually have a hard time sitting down and playing a game for more than an hour due to my schedule, but I recently have been overcoming this, most notably a 5 hour sitting on BG&E just before I finished it. Hooray for playing games!
Jade Empire is looking incredible - just watched the video for that yesterday. But of course it's not out yet, and neither is KOTOR2. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Anything anyone can recommend that I should get into? I only have an Xbox and Gamecube at the moment, but feel free to suggest PS2 titles as well, as a combination of ICO, the Jak series, and the Ratchet and Clank series has been enough to convince me to snag one (and yes, I'm turning into a console platforum junkie).
...and yes, these crazy "looking for game recommendation" posts are going to kinda be the norm for me in the future <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
* this is a lot for me. I usually have a hard time sitting down and playing a game for more than an hour due to my schedule, but I recently have been overcoming this, most notably a 5 hour sitting on BG&E just before I finished it. Hooray for playing games!
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It has a distinct lack of RPG-ness (choices) but it still features your lvl up, stat placement, race and gender and class <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Really value since it's probably feature 50-200 hours of gameplay
Also did you get the new downloadable content for KOTOR ?
Sudeki has a cool art style. I'll have to look into it.
Is the KOTOR downloadable stuff for the Xbox, too? if so, I'm assuming Xbox live? Don't have that yet, and probably won't get it, at least not for some time.
As for Morrowind i guess the PC version will be best seeing how you can add the mods for it and such.
Had to stop playing. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'm only 3 hours into KOTOR with a one hour session and a two hour session, both interrupted before I could go on. But both were spent oblivious to the passing of that much time, so I could have easily gone on for 5, 6, 7. That was what happened to me with those last few hours of BG&E, which was just incredible. I think there's something to be said for games that can give you that kind of experience, and especially with the interests of my upcoming job in mind as well as the fact that it's been so long since I had time to really sit down and enjoy games, I'm just having a blast <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Frighteningly enough, the first hour of KOTOR got cut short after my fiancee came home with two new games that <i>she</i> had to sit down and try out. I may be sparring with her for some extended play time in the future. But hey, I think that's awesome. She's turning into a platformer junkie, and though she resisted me getting the Xbox, she actually <i>wants</i> the PS2 to round off the collection. And while her tastes are still developing (her games include Finding Nemo and Tak and the Power of JuJu on Gamecube and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy on Xbox), she's spent time with Prince of Persia, Ikaruga, and even Serious Sam: Next Encounter. I showed her the BG&E trailer the other day and she will probably get into that one next. Hell, when she came home last night (ending my 2 hour run of KOTOR), she sat and watched (interested, no less) for the last 5 minutes or so before I quit. This is going to be a fun marriage <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Guilty: ah, cool. I'll check that out. What all does it include, if anyone's willing to answer here and not pillage my apartment for my lack of searching initiative?
Good point on the mods. I've seen some decent looking ones, and hell, I know a guy running one. Might not be a bad idea to support that.
What it does is take you, allow you to create a character that is good in whatever you choose, and then releases him onto the idland of Vvardenfell with only a suggesting of that you need to go to balormia to deliver a package and a few gold pieces. You can go deliver the package if you want, but there are plenty of other things you can do as well. In fact, instead of following the main game plot, you can do anything you want. Be a theif, and rob every town on morrowind isle blind? You can do that. Treasure hunt, and look for valuable items to sell? You can do that too. Make everyone hate you by randomly killing townspeople? Yep. Hunt around for ingredients and make awesome potions? sure. Perform quests to become high ranked in every oraginsation throughout the island? uh-huh. And you can do all this without even touching the main story line. Of course, the main story line has some substantial rewards attached to it as well.
And, don't be fooled by the fact that Vvardenfell is an island - it's a massive island with it's own smaller islands. It would probally be impossible within a lifetime to explore everything.
Add a skill centric leveling system (and don't think just because you're a new character you need to suck at your skills, It's possible to start with upwards of 70 in a skill if you build correctly) a very nice looking engine, and the ability to HIT STUFFF WITH SWORDX0RS, and you have ubeernesssss.
Of course, the engine is a little inefficent, can crash based on your system, and combat is mostly "hit stuff until it dies", but I still like the game.
I played KOTOR from start to finish in one sitting without eating or drinking the first time I fired it up.
isn't it basically stuff that made it in the PC version but not into the Xbox version? I think I read that somewhere...
Also beware that installing too many mods may lead to getting one or more that conflict. You may end up even needing to restart your game from the beginning.
If you want an RPG go for Planescape: Torment. To quote Tycho from Penny Arcade, whose opinion is like mine:
(<a href='http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php3?date=2004-05-05' target='_blank'>quote came from here</a>)
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->People often ask me what my favorite game is, and I often say Wasteland, which was very good and affirmed gaming as a lifestyle choice. But the best PC game ever, in my opinion, is Planescape: Torment. I can't tell you what a relief it is to just lay that out. Planescape: Torment is the best game on the personal computer platform. And now, the people that made that are doing the sequel to Knights of the Old Republic. So, no - I'm not worried. If anybody should be worried, it's Bioware. Up until now, they looked pretty awesome.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Black Isle made Fallout 1 and 2 and Planescape: Torment, and now that Interplay fired them all (long story) they've split off to different companies, resulting in the above. Why toes PS:T rule so much? It's the best-written storyline in a computer game, has character depth for party members that's on par with bestselling novels, and in *true* roleplaying fashion there's always more than one solution to a problem -- not hack 'n 'slash everything like Diablo. PS:T is alongside Deus Ex, Fallout 1 and 2,and KOTOR as some of my favorite games of all time.
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If I read correctly in OXM the KOTOR, Mechassault and some other games have trouble with their downloadable content being on a disc, so so far they wont work on the disc and the only way to get them is by downloading them directly.
That said, the OXM disc does have cool demos sometimes, along with trailers and movies of stuff you might not have noticed, and sometimes there are save games with completed games or cheats which can be cool.
[of note would be the demo of that 'Riddick' game, which at the time of the demo disc wasn't released yet. Similarily with Splinter Cell, there was a demo before the release (actually I think all the Tom Clancy based games had demos before the game's release).
KOTOR is awesome though. Love that plot. My actual favorite part in the game starts on Korriban (the planet is cool and all for learning about the Sith, but it kindof dissappointed me overall with the dark Sith aspect). There's a rodian you should talk too, by the Cantina door.
...He's got an awesome quest part later.
[spoiler for people who read the Hobbit]
Think Gollum and Bilbo in the goblin caves...it's awesome, something I missed the first time through.
[end spoiler section]
That said, I wish they let you level up a bit more...I got level 20 a bit early...although through real play, I suggest you don't level up past 3 or 4 until you become a Jedi...it makes the game a little easier since you get more Jedi powers.
Morrowind is pretty good I'm going to have to go with Marik here though, the main quest is good, but iffy. Sometimes it's a pain to find out what you need to do next...especially the 'find this person you've never heard of, but should know <i>exactly</i> where they are' stuff. That said...being able to steal pretty much everything is nice.
...I have to ask people with the GotY edition: is there an enemy with more than 10,000 gold in either of those expansions? I hate looking for that mudcrab, and that thing in Caldera only has 5000...so it becomes very tedious to sell good stuff.
Sudeki and Jade Empire come out...relatively soon, they're supposed to be good. Fable is supposed to be released this year (where have I heard that before...), and that looks awesome too.
...in fact, I only have 4 or so more disc spaces in my book, and I plan on getting Fable, Full Spectrum Warrior, Halo 2 and KotOR2 or Jade Empire.
i've Heard Phantasy Star online is good, but i havent played it
isn't it basically stuff that made it in the PC version but not into the Xbox version? I think I read that somewhere... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correct. All that "Downloadable content" was extras in the PC version that XBOX players are now just getting acess to. Those assult rifles for sale allow you to cart a certain amusing combat droid throughout the whole game because, when fully upgraded, they are easly strong as lightsabers.
re: Planescape being the best game ever, I can't disagree... some parts were so beautifully written, I read them over many times because of the images they planted in my head...
I found myself a fair magicka regen plugin, that made playing as a mage a little less annoying (No more stopping to sleep all the time, and gives a better use for wisdom)
re: Planescape being the best game ever, I can't disagree... some parts were so beautifully written, I read them over many times because of the images they planted in my head... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are just too nice.
Every time after i finish a session on an RPG, i go and slaughter millions of innocent people, and then accidentally saving over my good file, then screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I've lost count of all the games i've accidentally saved over.
(actually i havent, i've only saved over Neverwinter nights, baldurs gate 2 , baldurs gate, and GTA:Vice city)