Sgl-16 Compact Assault Rifle

KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">another weapon hybrid</div> by a strange quirk of fate i was playing with a similar method <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72058' target='_blank'>to this</a> and came up with this funky lookin little thing, so i thought you all might wanna see it. its a hybrid of 2 H&K weapons. a cookie for the first to guess what they are <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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  • wnnwnn Zombie Panic modeller Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16960Members
    i LOVE this concepting style...

    Looks great, i'd model it but i'm too busy on other projects :]
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    do u mind if i have a go at modelling it? im bored <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • wnnwnn Zombie Panic modeller Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16960Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-REDDmonkey+Jun 1 2004, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (REDDmonkey @ Jun 1 2004, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> do u mind if i have a go at modelling it? im bored :( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think thats what its there for ! :x
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    ok, i had a go at modelling it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> . The models ok, but the PC is way too high for what it is. There alot of unneccasery (bad spelling <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) details, but i was just messing around really, going a bit above what i normally would with the poly count. Anyway, what does anyone think?
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    another pic

    sorry for the double post
  • DemiguiseDemiguise Marks Servers Reg Join Date: 2004-01-19 Member: 25462Members
    whats the poly REDD
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    3662 polys >.<, it doesnt really matter anyway none of my models get finished <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> . I didnt keep to the poly boundaries like i normally try to, it went a bit higher but not loads, so its not tooo bad <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TheUdderOneTheUdderOne Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28471Members
    Its a shame REDD, u'r models are awesome. I still wanna get that blade pistol done. It looked the shiz.
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Its a shame REDD, u'r models are awesome. I still wanna get that blade pistol done. It looked the shiz. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    thx <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> , hopefully something will happen with that pistol once ive properly learned to mesh. I understand most of it now but still, i get stuck at this certain bit
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited June 2004
    Very nice redd, seriously

    A couple of things:
    Is there a charging handle somewhere in there?

    Get some reference pictures of that G-36 rail. Pictures at different angles will help you decide the proper shape and design of those rear and front sights, as well as the proper shape on that rail. Currently, all you have are squares coming straight out, and that isn't what a rail looks like. It can easily be fixed by moving a couple of verticies on each square, so no new polys should be added.
    Here is a really good pic showing good detail on the rear sight (it's not covered) and front sight. It also shows the shape of the "squares" on top of the rail, how it blends in to the sides to create something a scope can grab onto
    <a href='http://www.srtsupply.com/images/dealerstock/hkparts/flatoppic.gif' target='_blank'>http://www.srtsupply.com/images/dealerstoc...s/flatoppic.gif</a>

    As for the circles:
    1) take note at the smooth rounding in this area.
    2) take note as to when the rounding here begins; just above the indentation

    Still, it may just be those renders, but it looks pretty good! Even if you don't change the rounding on number 2 (that would almost mean a complete rework) I'd still use it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    edited June 2004
    WOW thats a beautiful model Redd! nice to see something of mine has actually been modelled ^_^

    i am aware that there is no charging handle/cocking lever whatever, but got lazy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    the sight rail is actually off a SL8 prototype (pic attached) but for all intents and purposes is a G-36C sight.

    please please please somebody do another model or give Redd's a second run i'll be your bestest friend!!!
  • CodemanCodeman Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9497Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <3

    need i say more?
  • ChubbieboiChubbieboi Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11408Members
    how do u make concepts like that?
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    thanks burn <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ill work on those points you said now. The body does look a bit square at the moment too, ill try and change that. As for the rails, i should be able to change them with ease <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chubbieboi+Jun 2 2004, 03:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chubbieboi @ Jun 2 2004, 03:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how do u make concepts like that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You find guns, chop the pieces you like out and then combine them. In Photoshop, most likely.
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    is this any better for the rail?
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's getting there. The rail itself looks better, but could still use some shaping.

    Notice, on the picture below, how the rail would look if you saw it from the front (outlined in yellow).

    Also, I know you measured the height of your front sight and rear sights from the side view, but it's pretty badly out of shape when you look at the reference pictures. One solution is to widen the rail (it does look a bit on the thin side), or you can shorten the sights themselves.

    It doesn't matter if it's not exactly to scale with the rifle, but the various parts on the rail should be proportional to each other.

    I've attached a few more reference pictures that should help you out. Keep at it!
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    Redd if i may suggest not changing the sights too much from what they are now... i liek them <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    redd i officialy dubb you the past me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    super high poly models
    nothing ever gets done
    and you make sexy models <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    dont worry about a month from now youll get a couple models done and then go into a lazy streak <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • REDDmonkeyREDDmonkey Join Date: 2004-03-10 Member: 27256Members
    thanks for all the c&c guys <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> i really appreciate it. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> teh past chrono! lol im not sure if ill get any models done soon :\ and im still working towards your standard anyway chrono <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    i've been at it since '99 man and i aint got a model done yet (actually thats not strictly true, but i haven't had any major original releases) but i'd sooo looove to see this concept come to life... if you give up on it redd, please send it to me, just so i can marvel at what could have been once in a while <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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