[wip] Lmg (no Name)

Dr_X

Ok this is my second try on this model.. I haven't tried to skin it yet, because I still think there could be work done on it, thus me posting here. Give me your suggestions.
<img src='http://users.airax.net/filler/uploaded/gun.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Ripzaw

Nice! Shame my clan don't allow custom models <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Dr_X

Thanks. A thought just occoured to me though, how am I going to get this into the game when its all finished...?

Ripzaw

I don't have a clue. I do maps... Am working on one atm with a few mates. Am gonna probably need a modellor soon when we get the layout sorted etc. Just started <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

BAshh

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import in milkshape, get it skinned, export with hands and bones, give it animations and then compile. but dont worry, one of us will do that for you. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> you just have to finish

Dr_X

Phew, what nice guys... lol. Though I do want to try a hand on skinning it. Out of I want to make sure I can atleast model and skin, I'll leave the rest to the community. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

BAshh

well you're going to have to learn to mesh too, if you want to skin it. Check the stickies for some links.

Dr_X

Alright, I'll do that.

But before I try all that, any suggestions for the model before I try and skin it?

Chrono

front end near the barrel seems kinda boxy but that may be how you wanted it and the carry handle thingy with the sights seems too thin but very nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Dr_X

Now that you mention that area, I actualy forgot the grip.... Thats why it seemed a little weird...

<img src='http://users.airax.net/filler/uploaded/gunconcept.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Delarosa

is it ok if i give this gun a try?

douchebagatron

very nice, add the front grip, a trigger guard and thicken up the iron sights some, or make the 2 sides of the iron sights closer to gether, and you got a winner

Dr_X

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Skinning? Or modeling?

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->very nice, add the front grip, a trigger guard and thicken up the iron sights some, or make the 2 sides of the iron sights closer to gether, and you got a winner<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not really sure about thickening the iron sight, but I'll try it out and see how it looks.

A guard maybe, I was thinking about doing that.


edit: I added a trigger guard on the concept, and I couldn't draw it a way to make it look good, so I don't think I'll add that.

Dr_X

<img src='http://users.airax.net/filler/uploaded/gun2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Alright I added the grip, and I fixed the barrel a bit.

Delarosa

...modeling

Dr_X

Yeah I guess..

Dr_X

Question for those who use wings3d.

I've made a UV map, I think, but I don't know what to do to next, like how would I add a texture to it, etc...

<img src='http://users.airax.net/filler/uploaded/uvmap.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

I got this far... so now what.

Chrono

im no skinner but i think you gotta get it into .bmp format then get it into photoshop or something and do your best at skinning

Dr_X

Yeah thats what I figured, but I can't find out how to do that.

Chrono

well in 3dsmax you use a plugin called textporter but i have no idea what you do in wings3d sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Dr_X

Well I can't figure it out... Maybe I could get some help in how to do it in Milkshape..?

Delarosa

it's a lil harder in milkshape than in lith...

select the group that's assigned to the right "material"... hit ctrl+t...
hit printscreen, and h4xor it out...

for lith, load up your model, and slect only one material, and hit the little disc icon up top... and it auto-saves it as a bmp


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my ugly render:

Dr_X

Its nice, except for the butt of the gun, (Guess its called the stock..?), which is kinda funny.

What exactly is Lith? And what did you use to render?

Delarosa

made and rendered in max...

Lithunwrap is a UVmapping/Meshing tool... it's free to use, the current and fincal version is 1.3... the more popular Ultimate Unwrap 3D, is *not* free... and is an updated Lithunwrap...

Dr_X

Ok thanks. I'm going to grab Lith right now.

CoolCookieCooks

its not easy getting lith now... btw in my tutorial in customization help, i have a link to it and a basic skinmeshing tutorial using lithunwrap

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63179' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=63179</a>

Mintman

It need a trigger guard or something. Other than that it looks pretty cool.

Dr_X

I'm not really feeling the whole trigger guard thing.

I'll check out that guide Cooks.

Dorian_Gray

One slight suggestion might be to chamfer the edges a little (make them non-perpendicular angles, by adding some angled faces and essentially rounding/beveling the corners). Max has a button for that, not sure about wings.

BTW: looks really awesome, and wings3d makes some cool looking renders (much better than milkshape)

Dr_X

I didn't really like how things came out rendered in Wings, maybe because it wasn't skinned or something. But unskinned didn't really look that good, to me atleast.

This UV mapping stuff is really confusing for me... so I'm not sure if I'm going to try and do it, maybe some other time. Sooooooo if someone would like to do it for me, please let me know, and I'll get the Wings3D/Milkshape file to you.

BigBull

Only a few people know how to mesh nowadays. Easier to do it yourself.

I would do it, but i have other things <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->