Ns_solarpower

NzNexusNzNexus Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26605Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">map</div> <b>Hi like all know me i dont need to intruduce and tell all who i am.

I have decided to decompile Ken20Banks map "<span style='color:red'>NS POWERHOUSE</span>" because dont want to finish it anymore.
<span style='color:yellow'>And i dont using any decompile tools anyway. </span>

I have taked my own hands and started to[B] decompile </b>and copy some parts of the original powerhouse screenshots to my own rmf. and otherwise i get my own map based on powerhouse.

<b>Because powerhouse only have 2 screenshots that dont means i have decompiled the full map. </b>
<b>I have some new mappers joining soon but i mention there names later, this is a kind a remake on powerhouse because the map never gonna be finnished from ken20banks.

So it would be very very sad to delete the map and forget it. I'm trying to give the map a life back and trying to make the ultimate powerhouse back with some powerhouse areas and my own style what will be good. </b>

<span style='color:orange'>In all words : powerhouse will be finnished by my team</span>.
<span style='color:orange'>Ken20banks</span> dont have time to do it by he self. I think this is good idea to do, to get the map done and finnish it. Yes last time : because i need to make it powerhouse style i have !! decompiled some parts of the map using some screenshots and not compile tools.

So this is my first screenshot of my own remaked powerhouse what i maked with my own hands like the original one.

<span style='color:red'>So mr.Ken Banks dont have time anywat to finnish it so my team are starting this project to get the map done.</span>

<img src='http://www.freewebs.com/nznexus/ns_powerstation0001.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


Ok Lets choose a name which is the best people of the forums:

<b>ns_powercliterus
ns_cliteruspower
ns_powerD
ns_solarpower
ns_powerhouse "original name"?
ns_powerstation
ns_powersphere</b>

any comments?[/B]
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  • BlackPlagueBlackPlague Join Date: 2004-02-02 Member: 25990Banned
    ok first off, decompiling other peoples work is BAD BAD BAD! making your map, an apittamy out of the mapping squad, 2, create your own ideas. cheater!
  • dPPdPP Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21272Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ok Lets choose a name which is the best people of the forums:

    ns_powercliterus
    ns_cliteruspower
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nice names you have there Nexus , cool
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    edited May 2004
    Okay, you haven't decompiled it, because Ken clearly has not released a BSP containing ns_powerhouse content. I think you need to work on your definition of "decompile" simply to keep yourself out of trouble. What you're doing is just copying his work, and you ought to stop right now. All you're doing here is taking someone else's work without permission, and giving yourself the responsibility of making it into a full map. Don't you think if Ken wanted that to happen he would already have given it to someone else to finish?

    If you're thinking of starting a "remake project" (which you seem to be, it's hard to tell what exactly you're trying to say), I don't see the point. Ken said himself that the map had hardly anything to it and it wasn't worth giving to anyone else to work on. All the previous remake projects have been working on remaking <i>completed official maps</i> and all the teams have had the good grace to ask the maps' creators for permission to carry out the task. I think it's jumping the gun just a <i>bit</i> to rush in and claim to spearhead the new ns_powerhouse (or whatever you're going to name it although your other name choices are totally mad) map based on Ken's work, especially when you don't really seem to grasp the theme that made Ken's old shots of the map so damned good. This all seems to me an excuse to map something that doesn't require any of your own creative input.

    If you're not doing a "remake".. well, I guess you haven't learned much from your previous lessons.
  • dPPdPP Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21272Members, Constellation
    Ok hold on guys, I was told Nexus had permissions to do so from ken himself, is this true Nexus?

    If so can we see some proof?
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    Is this some kind of bad joke?
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    edited May 2004
    Dear god. Stop STOP NOW! And who gave you those map names <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Obviously someone who doesn't think much of your intelligence.

    ps. <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>ns_powerclitoris for the win!</span>
  • NzNexusNzNexus Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26605Banned
    ON BANKS SITE AND THAT MEANS THAT :
    10/04/2002 || They Joy of Level Design Ken Banks
    A lot sure has changed for me since my last update, half a month ago. My lust for UT2003's incredible graphics faded away faster then I could have ever imagined. That same night, I went back to ns_powerhouse and totally revamped the level. Ok, fine. Scrapped, restarted, whatever you want to call it. Those are such icky words though! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> I was much happier with the results, and once again became motivated to continue to work with the Half-Life engine. I sure am glad I did, too.
    Below, along with two ns_powerhouse shots, you can find a picture of some of what has been keeping me rather busy the past couple weeks: Nightwatch. We had our big PR blitz last week, and the feedback was very encouraging. Working on a singleplayer game sure is quite the departure from multiplayer. I'm having a blast with it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    he dont gonna finnish it anyway. And if someone ban me i dont really cares because i'm trying to help this guy finnish hes map and i dont decompiling it. yes So why not to finnish the map because he may not have time to work on it and he have maybye forget about the map. So well?
  • dPPdPP Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21272Members, Constellation
    yes i also think ns_powercliterus is the best, very creative name
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    See my additions to my previous post. Or just actually read it, because I don't think you understand why you're not being met with cheers and a parade.
  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 22 2004, 08:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 22 2004, 08:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> he dont gonna finnish it anyway. And if someone ban me i dont really cares because i'm trying to help this guy finnish hes map and i dont decompiling it. yes So why not to finnish the map because he may not have time to work on it and he have maybye forget about the map. So well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But it said he just restarted. So why should you continue on someone's map without their permission? That's like me going into the ns_parabola thread and going "Yeah, I'll take over from here - I can finish it. I'll just remake everything based on the screenshots!".
  • DrunkenMonkeyDrunkenMonkey Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16165Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Maybe you should send Ken an e-mail, to see if he <u>really wants</u> the map to be finished by someone else...
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 22 2004, 07:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 22 2004, 07:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ON BANKS SITE AND THAT MEANS THAT :
    10/04/2002 || They Joy of Level Design Ken Banks
    A lot sure has changed for me since my last update, half a month ago. My lust for UT2003's incredible graphics faded away faster then I could have ever imagined. That same night, I went back to ns_powerhouse and totally revamped the level. Ok, fine. Scrapped, restarted, whatever you want to call it. Those are such icky words though! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> I was much happier with the results, and once again became motivated to continue to work with the Half-Life engine. I sure am glad I did, too.
    Below, along with two ns_powerhouse shots, you can find a picture of some of what has been keeping me rather busy the past couple weeks: Nightwatch. We had our big PR blitz last week, and the feedback was very encouraging. Working on a singleplayer game sure is quite the departure from multiplayer. I'm having a blast with it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    he dont gonna finnish it anyway. And if someone ban me i dont really cares because i'm trying to help this guy finnish hes map and i dont decompiling it. yes So why not to finnish the map because he may not have time to work on it and he have maybye forget about the map. So well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well you should have asked him first and second, i don't think there was even ever a functional version of the map. Basically i think you are just making your own map taking other people's work. REALLY, think about this before you take it any further.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Drunken.Monkey+May 22 2004, 09:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drunken.Monkey @ May 22 2004, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe you should send Ken an e-mail, to see if he <u>really wants</u> the map to be finished by <b>YOU</b>... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fixed.
  • NzNexusNzNexus Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26605Banned
    i have proof my my children :

    This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

    Delivery to the following recipients failed.

    ken20banks@yahoo.com






    From: Denpa Hemligt G <ambix32@hotmail.com>
    To: ken20banks@yahoo.com
    Subject: Hi Ken, ns powerhouse
    Sent: den 19 maj 2004 12:37:12
    My name is Nz-Nexus and i love Level-Design.
    My real name is Dennis G, and im from Sweden my age is only 14 ½ but you need to se my work!
    I have mapped in 1 year now and created many unfinnished maps. This time it will be done.
    I have created many maps and have one in development.
    If you want to prewiev my work you can go here :

    <a href='http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/Map.php?UniqueID=419' target='_blank'>http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/Map.php?UniqueID=419</a>

    Im actually from www.natural-selection.org/forums (mapping forum)
    and i have seen your work, well it is great. I dont know if you are very bussy or this email comes to wrong person.
    But i hopes you can send me back the question i need to ask.
    Ns nothing is fantastic work man.

    Is ns powerhouse never done? That map looks good and nice. Well what i know is your maps very good detailed and have extremly "that rock's man!" lighting.. So the i asks you this time, does you need help to finnish the map? i want the map out. Please finish ns powerhouse and dont delay it. Or you can send the map to <b>me and i can finnish it if you wants.</b> Are you working now for Half-Life : Nightwatch project? or Quake IV?

    waiting with extreme anticipation..
    Thanks mr.Ken if you got this mail.
    Im one of your fans.
    And the point is that Level-Design dont makes me proud, it makes the people who can it.


    that means that he dont gonna finnish it, i cant contact this person anyway. So i takes the challenge to finnish it.
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2004
    CLITORIS = Comittee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society?

    No wait, he said, cliterus, never mind...

    (CLITERUS = Comittee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Entities and their Rehabillitation from Under-appreciation back into Society?, OK that didn't make as much sense, but hey, this topic doesn't make sense either so...)
  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    Why do you think he's not gonna finish it just because the email failed to deliver? Sheesh!
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Delivery to the following recipients failed.

    ken20banks@yahoo.com
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah. Do you ever read things people tell you?

    Additionally, standard practice is <i>not</i> to just send an email and start anyway regardless of replies or even regardless of whether or not you actually get one.

    The fact that you can't get a hold of him (although you've only tried one email and I believe that it's the wrong one) and that he can't finish it right now, is <i>no</i> excuse to go barging in yourself.
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    edited May 2004
    Maybe you should have waited for a reply before starting an ns_powerhouse_remake thread <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Especially considering the email wasn't recieved.
  • YamazakiYamazaki Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 21Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 22 2004, 07:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 22 2004, 07:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> that means that he dont gonna finnish it, i cant contact this person anyway. So i takes the challenge to finnish it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, it means you gave up on the first attempt at contacting him and are too lazy to actually get a hold of him. Also, a lack of response does not equal permission, ergo you still have no right to take over this project from him.

    Also, if this were my map you were stealing and finishing, I'd finish you. Mortal Kombat style.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    This has to be a joke, please, tell me it's a joke!
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <img src='http://www.vh.org/adult/patient/obgyn/contactvulvitis/images/vulva.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <b>+</b> <img src='http://www.encuentro2000.org/power.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <b>=</b> <img src='http://www.mini-house.com/champion.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />.
  • NzNexusNzNexus Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26605Banned
    But eh..try to contact he self! lets see what that will show you?

    but..If he never finnish the map? so what you says then?

    I can delay the project emideatly but i want to on some way finnisht hes map. Because i want, and all want it. Execute that this is only a help and not a stealing work.
  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 22 2004, 08:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 22 2004, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can delay the project emideatly but i want to on some way finnisht hes map. Because i want, and all want it. Execute that this is only a help and not a stealing work. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You *want* to finish his map? Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    Enough irony:

    It's his map, and you have <b>NO RIGHTS</b> over it, forget it. It's not yours, and it will never be, it's not going to be finished, deal with it.

    But don't steal other people's work.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 22 2004, 07:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 22 2004, 07:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but..If he never finnish the map? so what you says then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then he never finishes the map. Greater tragedies could happen. Powerhouse rocks, but I'm sure his QIV stuff is even better, so we won't lose entirely.

    It's of no concequence whether or not you want to finish the map if it isn't yours to finish.
  • YamazakiYamazaki Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 21Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 22 2004, 07:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 22 2004, 07:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But eh..try to contact he self! lets see what that will show you?

    but..If he never finnish the map? so what you says then?

    I can delay the project emideatly but i want to on some way finnisht hes map. Because i want, and all want it. Execute that this is only a help and not a stealing work. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    finnish (fin'ish) v.t. 1. To turn someone into a Finn, also known as citizens of Finland. - fin'ish'er. 1. Someone who makes a living by turning people into Finns.
  • NzNexusNzNexus Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26605Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+May 22 2004, 03:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ May 22 2004, 03:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Enough irony:

    It's his map, and you have <b>NO RIGHTS</b> over it, forget it. It's not yours, and it will never be, it's not going to be finished, deal with it.

    But don't steal other people's work. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    okay... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> i'm delaying the project then.
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    What project?! All you have to work from is a few early development screenshots?!
  • dPPdPP Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21272Members, Constellation
    Im rolling on the floor here, nice pictures from Tequila
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    I hope you mean CANCELLING.
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