More Router Questions

kuperayekuperaye Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14519Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">YAY... :(</div> 1) I recently purchased a wireless router so my brother could use my internet too. the router is a Di-624 by d-link its an xtreme g router. So i want to know for one how can i secure my connection up more so that only certain people can have access to my internet. So i dont get a persone leeching off my internet.

2) How can i lock his speed so he wont lag me in games too?




Sorry but rotuer newb


plus. how can i configure ths router for sending things over aim/receiving, sending dcc over irc


Thanks A bunch

Kewper
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  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    I _think_ the sharing security is done internally, but if it is not, it should have a program that can set the password etc. For bandwidth limiting try <a href='http://www.netlimiter.com/' target='_blank'>Netlimiter</a> which can limit programs, or <a href='http://www.bandwidthcontroller.com' target='_blank'>Bandwidth Controller</a> which can limit his IP (90.0.0.x or whatever) to a certain bandwidth.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    netlimiter will not work to controll your bro's computer (it only works on the installed comp)

    <a href='http://support.dlink.com' target='_blank'>http://support.dlink.com</a>

    RTFM?

    That will tell you how to open/forward ports
    To know WHAT ports to use, check the faq/manuals for the desired program.

    For security:
    RTFM

    Trust me, all your answeres are probably in there (out side of possibly throtling your bros BWidth)

    We WILL Turn you in to a knowledgable computer user if it HURTS you!
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    I had the same questions when I setup my wireless network at home. I turned to the gurus at PC Mechanic. Here's a link to a great set of instructions:

    <a href='http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?threadid=82079' target='_blank'>How to secure a network</a>
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Kuper, unless you have an upstream Linux box to install the HTB3 module patch to, it's unlikely that you will be able to 'cap' his bandwidth at all.

    Second. WAPs are extremely insecure by their very nature. It takes less than lip-service to get by the standardized encryption in the 802.11x setup, and passwords are a joke. It's asking for a wardriver (walker, skater, biker, busser) to wander by and stab you in the head... metaphorically speaking. There are harsh methods (discussed below) to do it, but they don't work on all WAPs.

    The only real way to secure a WAP is to do it with another piece of hardware... when I have to set up a node, it gets a set-aside ethernet port which is blind to the rest of the network, and has packet-logging running.
    (If someone wants to use my WAP illegally, that's wonderful. I have a warning disclaimer. And I track everything that passes through the system... URLs, passwords, e-mail addresses, all the rest. If they're particularly obnoxious about trying to get out of their box, it's pleasant to see that any e-mails they send get added to please-spam-me lists)


    RTFM, see if you can find how to lock the WAP to the MAC address. The MAC address is like a 'serial number' for your network card. Each one is different. If you lock the WAP to only serve to your and your brother's MAC addresses, and drop all the rest, that'd probably be the best way to go about things.


    Note: You still can't limit his bandwidth. It'd need to be a function of the WAP, or a function of a machine directly upstream of the WAP (assuming the WAP is NOT running in NAT mode.. if it is, you're SOL).
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Bandwidth control is done by having an actual server for your network, through which your connections run. I really doubt you want to go through the trouble.

    As far as "security" goes, you can enable WEP, which is cruddy. I don't bother. If anyone steals enough bandwidth from you to cause trouble, it's perfectly easy to ban their MAC address.

    If you turn off DHCP (make one computer like .50 and one .51), you might be able to just disable all the other IPs on your network, depending on your hardware/firmware.

    You're also forgetting the most obvious solution: if your bro causes trouble while you play NS, you can go bonk him on the head <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> Your house is not anonymous.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-taboofires+May 22 2004, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ May 22 2004, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if your bro causes trouble while you play NS, you can go bonk him on the head <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> Your house is not anonymous. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wonderful <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • kuperayekuperaye Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14519Members, Constellation
    so yea Taleshin can you say that in easier terms :X


    <!--QuoteBegin-taboofires Posted on May 22 2004+ 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires Posted on May 22 2004 @ 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You're also forgetting the most obvious solution: if your bro causes trouble while you play NS, you can go bonk him on the head  Your house is not anonymous<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i would at the first chance i die due to a lag spike but
    not when he has a good 70 lbs on me and works out all the time.

    right now im on his computer and here i am scanning for virus :X and he has 2 right now im not sure which ones since its online scanning.

    will these virii affect my system at all?
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    posibly.

    Just run regular virus/spy/adware scanners on both comps.

    you are also behind a hardware firewall so are much less likeyl to get screwed.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    If he gets a virus, there's a good chance you'll get it too. Even behind a hardware firewall... or I should say 'especially'. If he's enough of an idiot to download something that's infected and run it without a scan, it can easily jump to yuor machine. Sure, it'll protect you a bit better against worms... but nothing will guard against idiocy.

    RTFM, kuper. Look for how to limit access to specific MACs. Find your and your brother's MAC address. Only allow those two to access the WAP.
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  • kuperayekuperaye Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14519Members, Constellation
    whats RTFM


    and where could i find these mac addresses?
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    RTFM = Read The F***ing Manuel
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  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> netlimiter will not work to controll your bro's computer (it only works on the installed comp)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    duh, I said programs, aka a non-service device driver.
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  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    If your brother doesnt know computers very well, you can install a remote access program on his computer and make it start on windows boot. When he bothers you with pr0n downloads or whatever, just shut down his computer, he will never know what hit him.

    <a href='http://www.realvnc.com/' target='_blank'>RealVNC</a> is a nice program to do this.

    Alternatively, you could access your router and block all internet services to your brother's computers. There are many ways to get around his body mass. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    RTFM:
    Read The Friken Manual.

    We can tell you the general idea, however you then have to go and do some work for your self.

    I gave you a direct link to the knowledge base for your specific company.

    go in there, and search for things like:
    fowarding ports
    MAC address
    Security
    etc etc etc.
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