Fiction!

RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Mans Greatest Story Type</div> Well, I cant post this in the fan fiction forum because frankly they just only take NS stuff! But, I do not plan to bore you with my 50 page story so here is the cover title! If anyone is interested Ill throw it on my webspace!

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  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Fiction!, Mans Greatest Story Type
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    I like to think the greatest story type is porno. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Ah, thats Adult. Besides, its more fun to watch than read. Anyways, QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? CMON PEOPLE!
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    Would of helped if you put you like to your story in your furst post, instead of just talking about it. Ya know what they say about common sense....
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Because if we judged a book by its cover, then eh... nevermind.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    The story is too long, I need people to say they want to see it so I can put it on my webspace! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    I'm very interested, but it's hard to critique something when you haven't even posted a sample.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I really like it! You should try to publish it. Prospective publishers prefer that you send them at least two words, though. They're not as easy a sell as I am.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    Put a synopsis of your story up. It'll be easier for us to form an opinion on it then.
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    Uh, you want C+C on the cover?

    Its obviously aesthetically unpleasing. You're using white times new roman in it, and it sticks out like a sore thumb. And even the title and slogan fonts look like the kind of stuff found on a 70s-style low-budget paperback release, in other words ugly as sin especially combined with that atrocious purple.

    And the slogan itself - "<i>in a time of defense</i>", is so corny you have to either be kidding or presenting a daytime TV script, otherwise thats just unacceptable.

    But honestly, I'm no great fan of covers. A screwed up one like that might never attract a customer (or maybe my tastes are way off and it will), but its whats inside that matters anyway.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    I'll try and ignore that last post.

    As for an excerpt, I'll put one up. What I wrote was the future, 2203, and a new power has risen in Eurasian theatre. Military has been replaced by walking mechs called Vectors, and this new Dictator has established a very formidle Vector army. After storming the eastern European front, Europe is on its toes and all the powers are wrestling for control. The Ukrainian Dictator decides to take an alternate course and head to the east, towards Russia. The story takes place on a small outpost to east of the Ural mountains. The force is comprised of 50 Vector units, and... well you just have to read it. I'll try and give you a chunck of the good stuff.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Recoup+May 13 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Recoup @ May 13 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll try and ignore that last post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why?

    He's offering C&C about something... and his comments are all correct IMHO.

    If you don't post anything about your story first, what else do you expect people to talk about?
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+May 13 2004, 01:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ May 13 2004, 01:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really like it! You should try to publish it. Prospective publishers prefer that you send them at least two words, though. They're not as easy a sell as I am. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tee hee

    You'll like my story. It's not set in the future or anything.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Recoup+May 13 2004, 11:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Recoup @ May 13 2004, 11:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll try and ignore that last post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I guess my previous comment was too subtle! The cover is poorly made.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    There you go. That's better. But, 70's? No way. The cover for Enders Game seemed more seventies to me. But thats just MHO.
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Here is a small battle scene from my story. I have yet to fix things...

    ...One of the heavy Vectors was circling a medium, inducing heavy ballistic fire from its gattling guns mounted on the front. The Ukrainian Vector was loosing its form of balance from the sustained fire, but one other Vector came to its rescue. The towering mech came in from behind and managed to get a few missiles out of the bays and swipe the Russian from behind. The large Vector noticed the hit and then turned to return fire. The medium Ukrainian Vector that it was attacking previously now regained its balance and returned fire to retaliate in response. Shells and bullets pelted the armor plating that protected the reactor from behind, and the heavy Vector didn’t know whether to concentrate on the Vector in the front or the one attacking from behind.
    It turned its torso ninety degrees and then moved itself around to circle the attacker. It fired off a salvo of rockets that impaled the shoulder area of the attacking Ukrainian. The medium Vector was moved off balance and swayed to keep itself aloft. The heavy Vector rammed it with a laser blast to the torso, and the Ukrainian attacker Vector fell into the snow. The other medium Vector, seeing his comrade fall from weapons fire, ran into a ramming pace and then hit the front end of the heavy Vector. Paul looked out and tried to observe if it had successfully impaled the pilot in the cockpit, and noticed that the medium Ukrainian had just barely missed the cockpit by a few feet.
    The heavy Vector shifted it torso to get the small mech off, shaking back and forth. The medium Vector shifted its balance and moved backwards. The heavy backed off and set off covering fire as it retreated to a safer location. The medium Ukrainian Vector also turned to retreat, and broke off into a running pace back to its ranks...
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    I honestly don't know the age of the atrociously bad book covers I have lying around, they're still sitting in some box in a cellar overseas. They probably weren't printed in the 70s, and hell their sheer uglyness probably has little to do with their time.

    Fact remains, anyone seeing that picture alone, without the text will see an aweful filter overlaid on an already fairly corny picture. The copyright note is beyond matters of taste just bad. Theres really no reason for anyone to bother being nice to you about this - its not a whole lot of effort gaining basic photoshop skills yourself or finding someone that has them, and using fonts that don't pixelate out the ****. Even finding a nicer motif (while still being within what you want for a cover), wouldn't kill you - hell, if you want to, talk to someone over at conceptart or so if they'll make you something, or if you can use something of theirs you like (as a sort of temporary solution). I don't know. Anything that doesn't make me go blind please.

    As for the battle scene, I'll be reluctant in smashing it for a change - just suffice to say it feels highly unpersonal or bland. Maybe theres a storyline reason for that, like its being retold, debriefed or what have you - no clue. Maybe an emotionless computer is telling it. Maybe its the style you were going for. Sheesh.

    Away from maybes, that 'battle scene' has the air of a slide-projector presentation - like a frame by frame explanation for pictures in <b>your</b> mind. Thats a small problem - storytelling works the other way around. You have to provided us the material to craft the pictures, and we'll do the play by play.

    No matter what, don't be disheartened by a bit of criticism. Despite popular belief, critics try to point out ways to improve on your art and not give up on it. And they can only provide pointers towards tastes they personally understand or have experienced - so maybe you're just a way better writer than I'm a critic. Who you listen to is still up to you, even if I can make up big words and sound important <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Recoup+May 13 2004, 04:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Recoup @ May 13 2004, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...One of the heavy Vectors was circling a medium, inducing heavy ballistic fire from its gattling guns mounted on the front. The Ukrainian Vector was loosing its form of balance from the sustained fire, but one other Vector came to its rescue. The towering mech came in from behind and managed to get a few missiles out of the bays and swipe the Russian from behind. The large Vector noticed the hit and then turned to return fire. The medium Ukrainian Vector that it was attacking previously now regained its balance and returned fire to retaliate in response. Shells and bullets pelted the armor plating that protected the reactor from behind, and the heavy Vector didn’t know whether to concentrate on the Vector in the front or the one attacking from behind.
    It turned its torso ninety degrees and then moved itself around to circle the attacker. It fired off a salvo of rockets that impaled the shoulder area of the attacking Ukrainian. The medium Vector was moved off balance and swayed to keep itself aloft. The heavy Vector rammed it with a laser blast to the torso, and the Ukrainian attacker Vector fell into the snow. The other medium Vector, seeing his comrade fall from weapons fire, ran into a ramming pace and then hit the front end of the heavy Vector. Paul looked out and tried to observe if it had successfully impaled the pilot in the cockpit, and noticed that the medium Ukrainian had just barely missed the cockpit by a few feet.
    The heavy Vector shifted it torso to get the small mech off, shaking back and forth. The medium Vector shifted its balance and moved backwards. The heavy backed off and set off covering fire as it retreated to a safer location. The medium Ukrainian Vector also turned to retreat, and broke off into a running pace back to its ranks... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's true.

    War isn't pretty.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Hey, I just noticed a URL on the lower left part of the book cover. Is this your image, or one that you pulled off the web?
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-SaltzBad+May 13 2004, 12:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ May 13 2004, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if you want to, talk to someone over at conceptart or so if they'll make you something, or if you can use something of theirs you like (as a sort of temporary solution). I don't know. Anything that doesn't make me go blind please.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What about this? This is how I interpret the cover design.

    <img src='http://www.flagmandesign.com/images/salvation.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    LOL! Everyone thinks my name is Rickey, but its:

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>RICHEY</span>

    There we go. Other than that its VERY nice. We need a bit more on the cover though... at least I think so...

    As for the battle scene, like I said, its an excerpt from the bigger picture. If I had included the REST of the story you would understand. I'll post a URL to it later.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    It was just because of the font... on my monitor the letters mesh together on your name, and so I had to guess what it said. Now that I look at it longer, I can tell it's not what I first read, hehe.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Okay, what about this?

    <img src='http://www.flagmandesign.com/images/salvation2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    edited May 2004
    When ever i see richy at the bottom i always visualize rick james at the bottom =\
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Ugh, please, don't remind me of that skit. That horse is dead and ROTTING!
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    BEAUTIFUL cover man. I printed it off and pasted it on my story and turned it in today. Our job was to have everyone read our stories and picked out which ones they liked. Now, she said "short stories" but they can be "as long as we want them" so I walked in after printing it off. They were already reading the stories, each one ABOUT 2 or 3 pages, and then I just dropped my 50 pager SMACK on the desk, and everyone looked. Travis said "DAAAAAAAAAMN" and they LOVED the cover.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    That's great, glad they liked it.

    What's the grade on your story?
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Glad to see you got rid of that hideous terragen cover. It's for the best, they probably would have wanted money from you anyways.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    edited May 2004
    Can you answer this one question?
    Is that a robot talking?

    Your story could have a lot of potential. Although it doesn't exactly appeal to my senses, I think it could be brushed up, polished, and served to be read by people.

    First things first, one of the main pieces of debris that caught my eye were the so many sentences that started with the word "the." Please refrain from using to many of these lifeless words; why not start off a sentence with a surprise-a burst of creative energy? Instead of describing a sequence of events (unless that is what you had in plan), why not leave the reader in suspense, and in wonder of what could possibly happen in the next second.

    Metaphors, Hyperbole, Similies, and Imagery, are but few tools great writers impliment in their crafted novels.

    Anyways, good luck on your story.

    EDIT:

    btw, how long have you spent on this?
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Well, a month or two ago I did a lot in 1 week, and then I did more in the last 2 weeks, so 3 weeks. Besides, you need to see it from the WHOLE PERSPECTIVE before you make assumptions of one excerpt. And its 9th grade level. Im 15.
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