Proper Use Of S

criogenicscriogenics Join Date: 2003-01-13 Member: 12248Members, Constellation
edited May 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">For All, esp Forlorn</div> I'm sick of reading through topics and seeing people use the letter 's' wrongly. This is especially for Forlorn. I don't know why I haven't posted this earlier. Here's a little lesson:

<b>1) s is used at the end of a noun to denote plurality. </b>
<u>Examples: </u>
<i>I killed two skulks.
Give me two medpacks.
I like GLs.
</i>
<u>No-nos:</u>
<i>I like marine's better than alien's.</i>

<b>2) 's is used between nouns to signify posession.</b>
Examples:
<i>The marine's armor was depleted.
The commander's orders were clear.
</i>
<u>No-nos:</u>
<i>I liked he's weapon. (his)</i>

<b>3) ' is used between nouns, the first noun ending with s, to signify posession.</b>
Examples:
<i>The marines' armor was depleted, so they welded each other.
The aliens' hives were dying.
</i>
<u>No-nos:</u>
<i>The aliens's hives were dying. (If I see this one more time...)</i>

<b>4) 's and 're are used to represent 'is' and 'are' respectively.</b>
Examples:
<i>He's a terrible commander. (He is a terrible commander.)
They're owning us. (They are owning us.)
</i>
<u>No-nos:</u>
<i>He's armor was gone. (Proper: His armor was gone.)
We killed they're hive. (Proper: We killed their hive.)
</i>

I'm onto you Forlorn.
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  • VerthandiVerthandi Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10687Members, NS1 Playtester
    And I thought the Internet had deteriorated to a slag of incorrect spelling, broken grammar, and incomplete sentences.
  • frostymoosefrostymoose Join Date: 2003-09-12 Member: 20799Members
    edited May 2004
    Truly, a great post. However, I clearly recall a grammar class where we learned that nouns ending with s showing possession can use just the apostrophe only when it(the noun) is ancient. "Julius' sword was sharp." for example. Sounds like a silly rule. It may be wrong, though.
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    Ahh grammatical fascism.
    I hath much <3 for thee.
  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+May 10 2004, 12:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ May 10 2004, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ahh grammatical fascism.
    I hath much <3 for thee. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nothing with being one...

    I'm quite the Nazi at it myself. :X
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    ACHTUNG MEIN SPELLING!

    I really hate it when people won't take the time to use proper punctuation and spelling.

    And when they say, "Well, I don't care!*", we should reply, "Well, the rest of the internet does."

    *Actually, it would look more like, "wlel i dun caer1!"
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
  • Jim_has_SkillzJim_has_Skillz Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12475Members, Constellation
    Yeah I totally agree with you Future, their are way too many person's on this forum that don't use proper grammer at all. There speling is atrocius and almost unreadible.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    damn, jim, you sure do have some SKILL<b>Z</b>

    OOOOOH burn!
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+May 9 2004, 11:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ May 9 2004, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> damn, jim, you sure do have some SKILL<b>Z</b>

    OOOOOH burn! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nothing like having Skills with a Z.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-frostymoose+May 10 2004, 01:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (frostymoose @ May 10 2004, 01:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Truly, a great post. However, I clearly recall a grammar class where we learned that nouns ending with s showing possession can use just the apostrophe only when it(the noun) is ancient. "Julius' sword was sharp." for example. Sounds like a silly rule. It may be wrong, though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think that counts for any proper noun that ends with "s".
  • Billy_SilverfishBilly_Silverfish Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15688Members
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Future+May 10 2004, 06:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Future @ May 10 2004, 06:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <u>No-nos:</u>
    <i>The aliens's hives were dying. (If I see this one more time...)</i> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This one is correct, and is technically the preferable way of writing it. Hanging apostrophes (e.g. marines') may match up to <i>spoken</i> English well, but they shouldn't be <i>written</i> that way.

    Strunck & White agrees with me too, so don't be all "Olo GRAMMar NUB" as I'm not only a grammar nazi, I'm an educated one. ^^

    (Edited to remove a stray S. Irony is fun.)
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    I RESERVE MY WRITE (hehe) TWO HALF GRAMATICAL AIRS IN ANY OF MY SCENTENCES FROM NOW ON AND FORWARD

    /edit who gives a crap in the first place
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    edited May 2004
    Aliens's and aliens' are both correct.

    It's just...saying Ay-lee-ins-ez is redundant and sounds moronic. Any noun ending in an s (generally plurals) when being used as a possesive can end in -s' or -s's.

    I'll throw some more 'there' stuff in here:
    there - showing location (i.e. He's standing over there.)
    their - showing possesion (i.e. Their base is around the corner.)
    they're - contraction of they are (i.e. They're over in that direction.)

    ...Of course, then you have the two, to and too, but those are much easier to discern (and sometimes I'm to lazy to write 'too far' instead of 'to far'...).
    [Knew a guy in middle school who's last name was Tew...so I have four 'twos' <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .


    <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+May 10 2004, 01:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ May 10 2004, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I RESERVE MY WRITE (hehe) TWO HALF GRAMATICAL AIRS IN ANY OF MY SCENTENCES FROM NOW ON AND FORWARD

    /edit who gives a crap in the first place<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    People give a crap because if you can't write legibly then you're not communicating your ideas properly. It also makes you sound like a child who hasn't passed out of primary school. Nobody expects people to have completely correct spelling and grammar, but blatant 'u's and '2's (and common word misspellings/misuses...) in the middle of a sentance on a <i>forum</i> signify an air of incompetence.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    'I s'till dont' get it'?
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    heheh, and also a lot of people seem to use "loose" instead of "lose." To this day i don't know why.
  • AfrAfr Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16240Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2004
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    As long as its not a long paragraph/sentence with no full stops commas, then im not fussed. Unless that is that they abreviate more than 1/3 of it.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+May 10 2004, 07:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ May 10 2004, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I totally agree with you Future, their are way too many person's on this forum that don't use proper grammer at all.  There speling is atrocius and almost unreadible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please be a joke, please please please.

    Incidentally, if we're being all female dog while we're here, trailing apostrophes are fine, and I'd expect weirdness like "aliens's" from people who can't spell 'colour' anyway. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+May 10 2004, 03:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ May 10 2004, 03:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+May 10 2004, 07:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ May 10 2004, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I totally agree with you Future, their are way too many person's on this forum that don't use proper grammer at all.  There speling is atrocius and almost unreadible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please be a joke, please please please.

    Incidentally, if we're being all female dog while we're here, trailing apostrophes are fine, and I'd expect weirdness like "aliens's" from people who can't spell 'colour' anyway. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Anyone <b>that</b> lazy wouldn't even say "atrocious", so it's a joke. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Verthandi+May 10 2004, 12:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Verthandi @ May 10 2004, 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And I thought the Internet had deteriorated to a slag of incorrect spelling, broken grammar, and incomplete sentences. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    For the most part, it has.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    From one pedant to another: actually, it's the <i>apostrophe</i> people have trouble using correctly, <i>not</i> the letter S <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

    Missed one:
    <!--QuoteBegin-Strong Bad+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strong Bad)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OOOoohhh, if you want to be possessive, it's just ITS. But if it's supposed to be a contraction, then it's IT-apostrophe-S. Scalawag.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+May 10 2004, 07:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ May 10 2004, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I totally agree with you Future, their are way too many person's on this forum that don't use proper grammer at all. There speling is atrocius and almost unreadible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    unreadable

    isnt it?
  • VerthandiVerthandi Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10687Members, NS1 Playtester
    You're just playing along... right?
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    both coil and shockwave have a very firm grasp of the english language and they ways to speak it. The first post in this thread is pure gold ^_~
  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    This' makes's no sense' stop being's stupids. You loose.

    ~ DarkATi
  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+May 10 2004, 01:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ May 10 2004, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I totally agree with you Future, their are way too many person's on this forum that don't use proper grammer at all. There speling is atrocius and almost unreadible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...

    I hate you <i>so</i> much.

    <_<

    >_>











    <3
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    My grammar isn't always perfect, but at least I make the effort. Posts on my stupid blog will confirm that. I updated it!

    -JRC
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
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