Pet Rats

X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">I NEED HELP</div> I'm kinda confused. I got two rats from a petshop on sunday (along with all the stuff). I've wanted a rat for ages, but i've never kept rats before, but i'm finally a big boy and i can buy my own so i did.

Anyway... apparantly, i'm supposed to keep handling them until they're used to me. But the poor little things seem terrified whenever i pick them up, and it's not nice to try and hold and coo to a thing that seems to either want to get away, or tear you a new mouth hole into your face. It's pretty cruel, it seems.

So, are they supposed to be like that at first? Do they get calmer and calmer? How often am i supposed to pick them up and stroke them etc? Is there anything i can do to make it easier on them? Do i just keep doing this every day until they get used to me and don't struggle?

I need help!

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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    edited April 2004
    Uhm most rodents become tame in a while, just treat them with slow and gentle movement, dont try picking them up at first, just let em get used to how your hands feel/smell, just by putting your hands next to em, and perhaps put some rat food in your hand, to lure em <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Oh and try to keeping them in their cage, coz if a rodent gets scared they run FAST in every tiny place of safety...
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    imagine how you would feel, if you were suddenly placed in a box, tumbled around, put in an enviroment you never had known before, and then an enourmous object grasped you and lifted you up..... youd **** yourself most likely, but after time you would get used to it. I've had both mice and rats, and both have been quite skiddish and scared at first, but once they get to know you, trust you and comfortable in thier new surroundings, they will be ok.
  • big_jimbig_jim Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24350Members
    try leaving them alone for a day or two, let them get used to their new surroundings first, then start to let them get to know you, nice and slow, what Zaggy and Nikon is the right way to go about it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    You can also try feeding them while you hold them. My rats *loved* cream cheese; I'd put a bit on my fingertip and offer it to them.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    As a one time rat owner, I think I know what the problem is. Your rats aren't used to their new home yet. Rats (and just about any living creature) feels uncomfortable in strange surroundings.

    Try letting your rats run freely in your room; just open their cage door and they should start exploring in a few minutes. While they are loose lie on your floor, being perfectly still. It will give them time to adjust to you and your room.

    [EDIT] Oh yeah, what Coil said is very true. A rat that is eating is a happy rat. Leave some sweet fruits out to encourage them to come out of their cages. Watermelon skins are perfect, as they can really chew on those.

    [EDIT^2] Also, don't be worried if your rats keep running back into their cage/s. It's perfectly normal for them to do that.

    Another thing you will want to do is remove any unneccesary wires and cables from your room; especially those near the floor. Use tape to lift the wires you can't remove to a hieght of at least two feet (50-60 cm) so your rats can't chew on them. You wouldn't want your rats to shock themselves.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    I can't let the rats out in my room because there's too many places for them to hide/get to where i'd never get them back again, and if they get out of my room, they're not going to live for much longer because i have 7 cats (they're not in any danger if i'm with them, and i'm not going to leave them out of the cage if i'm not there).
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hmmm... cats are a problem. However you don't need to worry about them running off. Food will bring them back. Always did with Oreo.
  • Bo_SelectaBo_Selecta Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9374Members, Constellation
    I've never had/seen a pet rat before.. are they high or low-maintenance pets?
    And do they 'love' you back?
    I had hamsters once (many,many years ago) but they never seemed to care about anything but their food..
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Rats are very low maintenace, and they do love you back. They make GREAT pets.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    I miss my rats <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> , I think im gonna have to get me some more when I move in Aug. They make great pets, and yes they love you. They are quite effectionate and social creatures.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Rats are the best rodents to have by far, because they're the smartest. In the ~3 years I had my rats (which included two litters - long story), I was never bitten. The closest I ever got:
    1) my rat eating cream cheese off my finger - she'd hold my fingertip between her teeth while she licked the cream cheese off.
    2) my brother's rat chewing a hole in my shirt while she and I were watching TV together.

    They're tons of fun. (:
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Apr 29 2004, 05:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Apr 29 2004, 05:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Rats are the best rodents to have by far, because they're the smartest. In the ~3 years I had my rats (which included two litters - long story), I was never bitten.

    They're tons of fun. (: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yup. 2 years of eating various foods right out of my hands or off my fingers, and nary a nick or bite.

    Plus rats are incredibly smart. They can learn more tricks than a barrel of monkeys and do it in half the time. They can jump up to three feet (~90cm) in the air, and do all types of crazy stuff.
  • Bo_SelectaBo_Selecta Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9374Members, Constellation
    Hmmz, social, intelligent & cool looking....

    If I decide to adopt a rat, can I start with just one of them or should I really buy two?
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    Rats are by nature, social animals. You can buy any ammount (I had only one, for example) but some people feel that two or more are better. It really depends on how many you want. I reccomend going to a pet store and reading up on the matter. Trust me, you won't be unhappy with a rat for a pet, no matter how many you get.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    A few things I've learned, from having a parade of pet rats...
    <ul><li>If you have one and it's used to you, a second (third, fourth) will acclimate much more quickly. Only good to know once one dies.</li><li>If you're nervous, they'll pick up on it and grow skittish. Relax.</li><li>NEVER feed them through the bars of the cage. They'll very quickly start guessing that anything that comes near the cage bars (such as your fingers) is food. (My little sister gave me a first-hand learning experience with this one)</li><li>Bites aren't that bad. They'll learn not to if you give their nose a light flick if they do bite (LIGHT flick, don't wanna really hurt them, just go 'hey, not cool').</li><li>Nibbles are not bites. If a rat bites you, you'll know it. Nibbles are normal grooming behaviour.</li><li>If you have long hair, plan to wash it. Rats LOVE burrowing through/hiding in long hair, and unless you potty train them, you'll end up with rat offal on your head. Not pleasant.</li><li>Rats need love and attention. If you can't spare an hour or three spaced out over the day to cuddle and let them climb on you, get two. They'll keep each other company, so they'll stay more social. You still need to spend <b>some</b> time with them daily if possible, it's just a 'cushion' for when you can't.</li><li>It's fun to wander around with a rat on your shoulder, but don't use it to scare people. Some react badly, including hitting the rat. A solid smack can kill instantly, but it's even more painful to sit and nurse one dying from internal injuries.</li><li>Related to the last, do NOT allow any small children to handle the rats. If the rat starts to wriggle, their usual reflex is to squeeze. Internal injuries usually result. I've lost one, Taffy, in this manner.</li></ul>
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    *Points at Talesin's post*
    Listen to the man, people. It's blatantly obvious he knows what he is talking about. A few more tips:

    1) Rat-proof your room. This means (as I've sad earlier) lifting all cables off the floor, as well ar removing anything that could be a danger to your rat from the room. Poisonous plants are a decided no-no. (Even though you might be able to tolerate the plant, it could kill your rat easily.)
    2) Do some research. The more you know about your pet, the less chance you'll have an unpleasant surprise. (If you really want, I might even be able to send you the book I have when I next go home.)
    3) Spend time with your rat or rats. They will return your love tenfold.
    4) Avoid 'bad' foods. A good rule of thumb - if it's bad for us, it's worse for them. Especially avoid sweet, fatty and salty foods. Good ideas include unbuttered low-fat popcorn, unsalted pretzles, crackers, bread, etc.
  • Bo_SelectaBo_Selecta Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9374Members, Constellation
    Alright, the more I read about rats, the more I like 'em.
    Thanks to this thread, I now know what my new pets are going to be =D
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Oh, a couple more that I'd forgotten.
    If you've never had rats before, GET FEMALES. Most are weirded out by the rather overlarge testicles on the males, leading to less handle-time. Males also will go territorial at times, including spraying.
    NEVER put a female rat next to a male, even 'just for a second'. It takes less than a second and a half for them to finish the meeting, courting, and mating. Look away and you'll miss it, then wonder if you're feeding her too much, with how round she's getting a few weeks later.

    If you let them free-run, securing your room is a neccessity. If you only let them out while you're holding them, they'll associate you with 'out of the cage' and be less likely to hide out.. you also won't have to worry as much, nor stress over making sure everything's ratproof.
    Make sure your bed isn't a box-spring, or SEAL the underside. They'll happily climb up into the box and play in the springs. NOT good if you come home and flop out, only to hear a very short, sharp squeal.
    While cleaning the cage, it's good to put them in the bathtub if you have a metal grate over the drain (multiple holes on a guard cover). <b><u>NEVER</u></b> put them in a tub with a 'cross' style drainguard, as they can squeeze partway through (if not all the way) and get stuck in the pipe.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    One more thing: NO INFLATABLE FURNITURE! I learned that the hard way. Scared the hell outa me when I heard a *WHOOSH* from the chair I was sitting on - Oreo had chewed right through a seam. Thank god I still had the repair kit.
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