Wireless Internet...

Mullet · April 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">I am teh confoosed</div> Okay well I live in a very small farming community and the only thing they offer out here is 56k and satelite inernet...UNTIL RECENTLY! A local internet company just started selling wireless internet and they say its just as fast as dsl/broadband.

<a href='http://www.tele-net.net/wireless/wireless.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tele-net.net/wireless/wireless.html</a>

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Is it fast?
Tele-NET’s Wireless Internet Access starts at a basic rate of 128Kbps, digital, both upload and download. From there, as traffic allows, your speed can reach 1500Kbps and beyond. The service runs at the same speed, both upstream and down, unlike satellite, cable, or DSL, where your upload speed is restricted to a fraction of the download speed.

Can I get faster service?
All our users will be able to use whatever bandwidth is available, up to our backhaul’s maximum capacity, depending on other traffic using the system at the same time. Basic service is guaranteed capable of at least 128Kbps. Higher guaranteed rates are available. Please see our website for details.

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Hows it look? I am really excited about this because i've used 56k for internet gaming for 8 years. Wewt!

Testament · April 2004

It'll be like going from a Volkswagen Van from the 80's to a Lamborghini Diablo with a Mclaren F1 in it...

Mullet · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Apr 27 2004, 07:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It'll be like going from a Volkswagen Van from the 80's to a Lamborghini Diablo with a Mclaren F1 in it...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
........Okay. I forgot to mention that I'm serious about this and I'd like you to only post if you actually have helpful information. Thanks <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

RuBy · April 2004

whats your question exactly?

UnderDOG · April 2004

I was broswing a boating magazine and saw this add for boats that travel out on the oncean. They claim wireless 11mbs at anywhere within 30 miles of a coast. Sounds too good to be true (or REALLY expensive) if you ask me.

Testament · April 2004

It means it looks fine, Mulletman. Especially for someone who's been using 56K.

Mullet · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RuBy @ Apr 27 2004, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> whats your question exactly?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I just wanted to know if anyone has tried it before and if there are any catches to it...(like unstable connections, etc...)

Dubbilex · April 2004

I use a WAP (wireless access point) that's hooked up to just plain old cable internet.

Now, I'm not sure how different this would be (as I have no experience besides my own wireless router). I just can tell you that from time to time, the signal will not reach across the house and upstairs - not a far distance at all (perhaps 20 feet all said and done).

Other than other general speed caps that are thrown upon you (such as upstream/download speed, and what-have-you), it has served me very well. Dfinitely fast enough to contend nowadays, but not quite so much as a hard cable or DSL connection would be.

What's the cost per month?

Mullet · April 2004

$39.95 a month. But with my 2nd phone line and my internet connection, I'm paying almost 50 a month for this 56k connection....so it's all good <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Cold_NiTe · April 2004

The worthiness of the product depends how heavy your internet usage is, plain and simple. I get an average of 480KB/S with a maximum roof of a little over a megabyte when using specific programs like shareaza and I can gaurantee you that I use every lick of it.

If however you do not think you need it then you might could give it a year or two to see how it pans out, most certainly then you could get info on its performance from neighbors of yours with the service.

Mullet · April 2004

I live in a FARMING community where the population is like 1,000....The only reason people know about this now is because of me, and no one really cares except for like 4 or 5 friends of mine. So there really isn't anyone to ask....lol.

Also, I live 25-30 miles away from the town where this is offered, but they just installed a tower like 10 miles from my house which supposedly offers it to me (Smith Valley).

Sycophant · April 2004

While it sounds decent and the technology is quite capable of providing that capacity, I'd suggest maybe trying it out for a month before committing yourself to it long-term.

However, if they try to lock you into some kind of contract, don't go near it unless they can <i>guarantee</i> at least a decent consistent speed over the duration of the contract term. In writing. With a "no penalty whatsoever to you" backout clause if the service ever degrades below this guaranteed consistent speed.

Trust me, that'll be a huge security blanket for your nerves (and credit rating) if things ever go sour. And since it's wireless technology, it just might. You'd be surprised at how common it is for a company to push their equipment beyond its recommended limits just to rake in more profits.

I work for a wireless service provider, and you'd be surprised at how many people get seriously pee'd off when their service goes to crap after a few months and they're unable to cancel because of some two-year contract they signed. Well that's not entirely true - they can cancel, but they're going to pay out the wang for breaking their contract early.

The sad thing is that this is the company's plan right from the start.

Cold_NiTe · April 2004

As well it is a wireless broadband service therefore:
considering the high frequencies of the wavelengths required to transmit that much information at that speed (128kbps or 128KBps?) I don't know how well it would function in relation to distance as compared to weather. The farther you are from it, the more unstable your connection will be and the more changes in weather will affect you.

In the old days when we used low frequency waves for very simple messages distance was not a problem, but with those, very little information can be sent. With higher frequency waves the inverse is true.

Har_Har_the_Pirate · April 2004

i hope it runs good <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />, unless i never have to stay there

airyK · April 2004

my buddy has wireless access and it's great, as long you dont live by a load of trees. it uses a point to point connection w/the tower. ah, it should be a good connection as long as you have a nice connection w/the tower, just make sure you can get the antenna on tightly. my friend has a little more outages than the regular cable/dsl user but i think that could be because there are loads of trees and he has to have it up very high (not as stable)

Hydra · April 2004

What would the ping time on wireless internet be? That may be a catch. Electrical or severe weather a problem in your area? I do recall sat internets huge drawback is enormous ping times because of the whole info has to leave and re-enter the atmosphere. So I would say go for it in the short term, see if it "r0xx0rs" (which I am sure you would be typing like soon if it works good <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> ) and don't commit to anything long term till ya see if it is as good as promised.
Oh yea, fine print is the devil, THE DEVIL!!!
EDIT: In case you need further clarification, ping time=time from your computer to the destination in milliseconds is ping, time the data takes to travel that is. You need a really low ping to sucessfully play online games without being frustrated (3 times lower than the usual 300 dial-up ping.)

Har_Har_the_Pirate · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TrueChaos @ Apr 28 2004, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
EDIT: In case you need further clarification, ping time=time from your computer to the destination in milliseconds is ping, time the data takes to travel that is. You need a really low ping to sucessfully play online games without being frustrated (3 times lower than the usual 300 dial-up ping.)  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
not true i get **** at my internet, because at college u need to re log in every 30 something minutes if u dont refresh a web page (downloads and games dont count) and since they have p2p networking surrounded by a fire wall i cant play most games, or use kazaa effectivly, and get 3000 ping lag spikes......

well actually i dont get the lag spikes ne more, they changed some settings <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

Alcapwn · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Apr 27 2004, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Okay well I live in a very small farming community and the only thing they offer out here is 56k and satelite inernet...UNTIL RECENTLY! A local internet company just started selling wireless internet and they say its just as fast as dsl/broadband.

<a href='http://www.tele-net.net/wireless/wireless.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tele-net.net/wireless/wireless.html</a>

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Is it fast?
Tele-NET’s Wireless Internet Access starts at a basic rate of 128Kbps, digital, both upload and download. From there, as traffic allows, your speed can reach 1500Kbps and beyond. The service runs at the same speed, both upstream and down, unlike satellite, cable, or DSL, where your upload speed is restricted to a fraction of the download speed.

Can I get faster service?
All our users will be able to use whatever bandwidth is available, up to our backhaul’s maximum capacity, depending on other traffic using the system at the same time. Basic service is guaranteed capable of at least 128Kbps. Higher guaranteed rates are available. Please see our website for details.

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Hows it look? I am really excited about this because i've used 56k for internet gaming for 8 years. Wewt!  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
looks good, go for it! <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

Yes, thats pretty much the standard speed for BB.

Alcapwn · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TrueChaos @ Apr 28 2004, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What would the ping time on wireless internet be? That may be a catch. Electrical or severe weather a problem in your area? I do recall sat internets huge drawback is enormous ping times because of the whole info has to leave and re-enter the atmosphere. So I would say go for it in the short term, see if it "r0xx0rs" (which I am sure you would be typing like soon if it works good <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> ) and don't commit to anything long term till ya see if it is as good as promised.
Oh yea, fine print is the devil, THE DEVIL!!!
EDIT: In case you need further clarification, ping time=time from your computer to the destination in milliseconds is ping, time the data takes to travel that is. You need a really low ping to sucessfully play online games without being frustrated (3 times lower than the usual 300 dial-up ping.)  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
yes, sattelite will always generally have a ping of about 2000ms. Not good....for anything except web surfing and maybe some RTS games...

Nothing we can do since we cant change physichs. (spelling?)

Mullet · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Apr 28 2004, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TrueChaos @ Apr 28 2004, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What would the ping time on wireless internet be? That may be a catch. Electrical or severe weather a problem in your area? I do recall sat internets huge drawback is enormous ping times because of the whole info has to leave and re-enter the atmosphere. So I would say go for it in the short term, see if it "r0xx0rs" (which I am sure you would be typing like soon if it works good <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> ) and don't commit to anything long term till ya see if it is as good as promised.
Oh yea, fine print is the devil, THE DEVIL!!!
EDIT: In case you need further clarification, ping time=time from your computer to the destination in milliseconds is ping, time the data takes to travel that is. You need a really low ping to sucessfully play online games without being frustrated (3 times lower than the usual 300 dial-up ping.) </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yes, sattelite will always generally have a ping of about 2000ms. Not good....for anything except web surfing and maybe some RTS games...

Nothing we can do since we cant change physichs. (spelling?)  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
But does this also count for wireless? I've heard that satelite internet is beyond crappy for gaming, but what about wireless?

I'm 99.9% sure that I'll be getting this, but I'm woried because there is a $195 setup fee.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

eric_t · April 2004

DO NOT GET IT unless you like packetloss.

DOOManiac · April 2004

If there's no huge setup fee and no contract, I say go for it. If its crap you go back to 56k and you wasted a bit of cash but learned your lesson. If its good, you'll have to go buy new pants after you soil them due to the blazing speed you'll be able to download porn at.

But be warned, once you go broadband you never go back. You will list it among your basic required utilities right alongside water and electricity.

Cold_NiTe · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 28 2004, 09:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> But be warned, once you go broadband you never go back. You will list it among your basic required utilities right alongside water and electricity. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Too true. Too bloody true.

I went from 28.8<b>kb</b>ps Flashnet to 256<b>kb</b>ps 6 years ago and never went back, nor could I bear to. Especially since Comcast keeps upping the power of our network. We just doubled last week, allowing me a max of 1.5<b>MB</b>ps if I connect to the right places and a usual of 480<b>kb</b>ps.

Wireless Internet...

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