Computer Buying/selling Question/s

Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
edited April 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">I needs more megabits</div> I posted this in another thread to save space, but on reflection (and the fact that it recieved no responses) I thought it deserved a thread to itself.

My situation is I am planning to sell:

-1.15mhz processor
-40GB hard drive
-384mb Ram
-Generic Sound card, nothing great
-Radeon 7000 graphics card
(including keyboard, mouse and monitor)

Yeah, it's a bit on the old side.

My dilemma is that i'm actually running my processor at 1.53mhz and using a radeon 9700 pro. The motherboard is actually over-FSB'ed and I don't want to sell someone an over-FSBed mobo (like someone else did to me, and then I wondered why it kept crashing ).

But then I thought if i'm selling it as a 1.15 (which is the max the mobo can take) there's not much point selling a radeon 9700 pro with it; anyone who wants to buy a 1.15 will probably want it for desktop use rather than gaming, so the radeon 9700 would be redundant.

Soooo, my idea is to sell my old computer with the specs above, and the graphics card seperately (which is still worth about £150 on its own). Or would it be more profitable to sell it as a 1.5, but make sure I tell the buyer about the over-fsb thing?

O.k that looks very confusing when I read it through for myself, I hope you get what my problem is.

I'm planning to get my computer from dell.co.uk (I want to have a completely NEW machine for once, one not thrown together from recycled parts). I am unlikely to change my mind about this unless you can suggest a good alternative. The config I want is going to cost me £603 in total (that's including VAT and delivery). Normally I wouldn't be willing to pay so much, but I figure I can make at least £200 from selling what I already have, which cussions the blow somewhat.

As I said, I already have a radeon 9700 pro. The £603 computer includes a radeon 9800 pro. If I go for an integrated graphics card it will only cost £455, but does integrated mean I can't replace it? Because if not I could always replace it with my existing 9700 pro.

What i'm basically asking is would it be better to sell the 9700 pro and get a 9800 with the new computer, or get the integrated graphics card and replace it with my 9700? If "integrated" DOES mean it can't be replaced, would getting a Geforce FX5200 (the only other option) and then replacing it with the 9700 be a better option? I also have no idea how good an FX5200 is <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

O.k, there's a lot of questions there, but you guys seem to thrive on this sort of thing, so i'm sure you can come up with something <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Comments

  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    Integrated means it's on the mobo. Buy none and use your 9700, the difference between the two isn't very much, certainly not enough to buy a 9800 new and try to sell your 9700 for less than it's worth, which would be a waste of cash and a lot of hassle on your part. Soon as the 9700 starts slowing down you won't have a problem tossing it for a newer card.
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    Intergrated means its part of the mobo.. Although it often CAN be replaced. There will probably be an option in the bios about that.. You might want to check and make sure the mobo has an AGP slot though, as there really isn't any point in buying a non AGP slot mobo if you want to put a good gfx card in it..

    Edit: Arr.. beaten to it..
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited April 2004
    There isn't an option to buy it without a graphics card (although I know someone at Dell who MIGHT be able to get me one without one...).

    The only options are integrated, FX5200, or Radeon 9800 pro.

    Here's the site so you can check it out yourself

    <a href='http://www.dell.co.uk' target='_blank'>Dell</a>

    And (if it worked) here is the exact PC I chose.

    <a href='http://commerce.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config/frameset.asp?c=604&n=4605&b=43089&m=gbp&cu=ukbsd&l=en&s=ukbsd&store=ukbsd&sbc=ukbsddimen&v=d' target='_blank'>The Beast</a>

    *edit* O.k this doesn't show you exactly what I chose when you click that; turn the "enhanced support packs" down to "1-year collect and return", processor upgrade to 3.06, and graphics card to 9800 pro. That is what I chose. *edit*

    It sounds like my best option would be to take the FX5200, replace it with my 9700, and just sell/chuck the 5200, if I can't get it without a gfx card.
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    I say find out as much as you can bout the FX5200 and then decide whichever gets you the most quality for the cheapest.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited April 2004
    Ok, ok, here are the <a href='http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_4600?c=uk&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=specstab#tabtop' target='_blank'>tech specs</a> which say that it has 3 PCI slots, and 1 AGP 8x slot. I don't know much about the actual insides of my computar machine, but afaik basically AGP slots are for graphics cards, PCI for sound cards (or old gfx cards). If it comes with an AGP slot anyway, does that mean I can just go with the integrated gfx card, plug in my 9700 to the AGP slot, and tell the machine to use the 9700? If so that would seem the ideal solution.

    *edit* Could you also enlighten me as to what the "8x" in an AGP 8x slot means? *edit*
  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+Apr 18 2004, 11:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Apr 18 2004, 11:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, ok, here are the <a href='http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_4600?c=uk&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=specstab#tabtop' target='_blank'>tech specs</a> which say that it has 3 PCI slots, and 1 AGP 8x slot. I don't know much about the actual insides of my computar machine, but afaik basically AGP slots are for graphics cards, PCI for sound cards (or old gfx cards). If it comes with an AGP slot anyway, does that mean I can just go with the integrated gfx card, plug in my 9700 to the AGP slot, and tell the machine to use the 9700? If so that would seem the ideal solution.

    *edit* Could you also enlighten me as to what the "8x" in an AGP 8x slot means? *edit* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes.

    8x means the agp slot can use the 8x agp feature in some cards. basicly it's a speed increase. but it won't affect what card you can put in it.
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    Call Dell and ask them...
  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    Alot of times integrated video card systems won't have an AGP, but if the one you have does, then I would go ahead and get it, then put the 9700 in it. And yes, there is an option in the bios to select either integrated, PCI, or AGP graphics.

    AGP 8x just means it's 8 times the speed (bandwidth) of the original AGP slots which came out so many years ago. Any new system (or mobo) should have an AGP 8x slot, or soon, a PCIe 16x slot.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I'd give you 200 american for the whole deal. I'd throw Linux on it and use it as a hardware firewall <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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