News Story - Going Through Garbage

eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
edited April 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">2002 story, but still good</div> <a href='http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3485&page=1' target='_blank'>http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3485&page=1</a>

edit: if you dont like it, dont read it. i dont want any crappy +1 post complaints here.. if you're not intelligent enough to appreciate what is going on, don't reply. i dont want you to.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    A good find. IMO garbage is still private property, and should be immune to search and seizure; barring a warrant, of course.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Nice.

    And by nice, I mean "I'm moving to Canada."
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  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    In that case, since it IS private property and all, the garbage collectors have no right to touch it.

    Honestly, it IS jettison material. Besides, once the garbage collectors take it, why don't the police rummage through there?

    You ARE throwing it out, you don't WANT it, therefore sanitation services take it. I'm all for polices searching trash, I mean, unless you're doing something illegal, most of your stuff should be rank and file.
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  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    As long as the police don't enter onto private property. Garbage men have our consent to step on our driveway/lawn to pick up the garbage pin, police officers do not (unless you're one of those hicks from the country and you don't even use garbage bins, then, the garbage men probably don't have your consent.

    Garbage men also have a health and safety based reason for taking your trash, as accumulated trash lowers aesthetic value and can cause disease. Once the garbage men have the trash, or it's in a dump, then the police can dig through it all they want.

    Until then, it's my trash, and if I want to get something out of there before the morning garbage truck (whoops, honey, I lost my wedding ring!) or something, it's mine.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Apr 15 2004, 08:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Apr 15 2004, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides, once the garbage collectors take it, why don't the police rummage through there? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It would be much harder to prove it was YOUR garbage in the first place. Any defense attourney worth his salt would easily cite contamination of evidence.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    "If you have nothing to hide, there is no reason to hide it."

    <a href='http://enotalone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1242' target='_blank'>http://enotalone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1242</a>
    <a href='http://www.sptimes.com/News/072001/news_pf/Columns/Arguments__pro_and_co.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.sptimes.com/News/072001/news_pf...ro_and_co.shtml</a>
    <a href='http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4561&st=30' target='_blank'>http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/index.ph...opic=4561&st=30</a>
    <a href='http://www.vnunet.com/Features/1129043' target='_blank'>http://www.vnunet.com/Features/1129043</a>
    <a href='http://www.securityfocus.com/news/2296/comment/18113' target='_blank'>http://www.securityfocus.com/news/2296/comment/18113</a>

    Whatever i can say, has already been said over a hundred thousand times before, and a hundred times better.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In 1928, Justice Louis Brandeis said: "The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilised men."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The way i see it... Privacy is the way we individualise ourselves. Secret information is OUR possession, we are in ownership of it, and it is what characterises us. If our 'personal life' is taken out, scrutinised, and made public, then who are we? Everybody owns our secrets, our personality, our desires, our hobbies. They, and subsequently, we, are part of the public body. We are not one being, but a single generic cell in a mass of billions.

    Humans are individuals. We need our personal lives to be human.
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