Painkiller Impressions

BloodySlothBloodySloth Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20284Members
<div class="IPBDescription">probable spoilers</div> Got this game a few days back, and have been slowly blasting my way to glory. Figured I might as well say what I think of it.

First, the gameplay. Most important part. This game plays out like Serious Sam meets Quake, and that's friggen awesome. The rush you get from blasting away 100+ zombie nazis weilding bayonetted rifles with a minigun/rocket launcher (yes, they're the same gun) is indescribable. Let alone some of the other nasties. There aren't exactly a limited number of them either, there are more then 50 different minions of hell for you to slaughter en masse, and while there aren't massive differences between a lot of them, they all look distinct, and this helps keep the game feeling fresh.

The game is divided into five chapters, each having a massive boss at the end. And when i say massive, I mean defecate-in-your-pants-and-cry massive. The boss arenas are beautiful, with temples crumbling under the weight of the monsters, ceilings being shaken down from above you, gigantic stone pillars being reduced to rubble with a swipe of a hand, or the shockwave from a stomp. I haven't made it to the last boss yet, but I'm sure he'll be just as impressive.

On to graphics, the second big part of the equation. This game is second only to Far Cry in terms of visuals. Nearly everything can be destroyed, so firefights are full of flying shrapnel from walls, splinters of wood, firecrackers, glass shard, everything. The hordes of nasties that run after you are each incredibly detailed for this type of game, and I've found myself running dangerously close to the monsters just to gaze at their minute details. The physics are awesome, but I don't know how they can even be described without visual aid.

Now the downsides. It took me more than an hour to get this game to even run. The copy protection is like the fort knox of gaming. You can't even have registry files hidden in your computer from Alcohol 120% or any other cd emulation software. Even the uninstall programs dont pick up all the registry files, but Painkiller does. You'll need to go through your registry and manually delete each registry file to get this thing to work. The game also requires certain drivers for your CD-ROM, and these might not be the latest ones. If you're not willing to do that, don't buy this game, it'll only serve as an expensive coaster. There are also a few game-crashing bugs. After defeating one of the massive bosses, you have about a 50% chance that the game will crash to desktop, which is frustrating to say the least.

Overall, great game, but definitely could've used a bit of a polish before release.

Comments

  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    that really sucks about the copy protection...
    i think companies that make emulation software should sue... it's essentially forcing you to cease use of another company's product !
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now the downsides. It took me more than an hour to get this game to even run. The copy protection is like the fort knox of gaming. You can't even have registry files hidden in your computer from Alcohol 120% or any other cd emulation software. Even the uninstall programs dont pick up all the registry files, but Painkiller does. You'll need to go through your registry and manually delete each registry file to get this thing to work. The game also requires certain drivers for your CD-ROM, and these might not be the latest ones. If you're not willing to do that, don't buy this game, it'll only serve as an expensive coaster. There are also a few game-crashing bugs. After defeating one of the massive bosses, you have about a 50% chance that the game will crash to desktop, which is frustrating to say the least.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Looks like i'm not getting Painkiller, then, as Daemon's tools is a very useful NON PIRATING tool...

    I hate the nazi copy protection companies are making these days.
  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20284Members
    Yeah, it's a shame. I'm betting from all the angry letters on the painkiller forums a patch fixing this will be released, but until then dont waste money on the game.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Ugh.. One of my chief reasons for hating Diablo 2 is paying $60 for a coaster because the overzealous copy protection made the CD not read in my cd drive. at all. I mean I couldn't even INSTALL the damn thing...
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
  • ktimekillerktimekiller Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13958Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ugh.. One of my chief reasons for hating Diablo 2 is paying $60 for a coaster because the overzealous copy protection made the CD not read in my cd drive. at all. I mean I couldn't even INSTALL the damn thing...
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i had daemon tools and i was still able to install d2
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Bwahaha.

    I was playing Painkiller, and a horde of demons was advancing up a set of stairs to me. I ran up to an explosive barrel, pushed it down the stairs, then shot it as it slammed into the demons. Gibs and bodies flying everywhere.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    With the demo I like finding creative ways to kill them as well... I might pick it up sometime.

    I remember some guy taking cover behind an explosive barrel and I didn't immediately feel like blowing it up, but he stepped back so I couldn't get a shot. Barrel it is!

    Actually my favorite is running in with the ammoless weapon (whatever it's called)
    and having a really close quarters fight. It's great when they line up. *spin blade, send it flying, nothing but gibs left*
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    edited April 2004
    The worst thing I think I've got on my PC is an SNES emulator. <span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:white'>If you think I don't spot warez because of small fonts, you're wrong.</span></span>
  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    Apparently the problem is due to them (Same as many other companies) using Macrovisions cd copy protection tech. The most recent update to this stopped disks from playing in any machine with a trace of Clone-cd etc on them aswell as some CD-rw drives. This is more macrovisions fault than Dreamcatcher, etc. The same problem happened with other games, like RS3: Raven Shield (though that happened after the game was released due to a patch, i think). They eventually released a patch that disabled this aspect of macrovisions protection.
    Really shortsighted tbh. I assume macrovision will remove the feature entirely soon or they risk losing alot of potential custom.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    NeverWinter Nights was almost crippled by whatever copy protection they'd bought... luckily they released a No-CD patch amongst other things to help fix it up a bit, though the problem was supposedly something to do with the version they'd been given or something ~shrugs~

    Still... Having to put your CD in just to play a game is a total pain in the rear for people who actually buy the game =/
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Apr 13 2004, 07:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Apr 13 2004, 07:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NeverWinter Nights was almost crippled by whatever copy protection they'd bought... luckily they released a No-CD patch amongst other things to help fix it up a bit, though the problem was supposedly something to do with the version they'd been given or something ~shrugs~

    Still... Having to put your CD in just to play a game is a total pain in the rear for people who actually buy the game =/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah... I use as many no-cd cracks as possible. Also, co cd cracks are completely legal along with cd backups if you own the game. Check out www.[link removed].com <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->


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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 13 2004, 05:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 13 2004, 05:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ugh.. One of my chief reasons for hating Diablo 2 is paying $60 for a coaster because the overzealous copy protection made the CD not read in my cd drive. at all. I mean I couldn't even INSTALL the damn thing... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uh, that's not copy right protection, that's the power of a dvd drive my friend. Had the same problem and it worked like a charm when switching the drive out with an ordinary one. Also I dont think costed 60 dolla
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Something before I head to bed...

    I was in Cathedral, and one of the wierd bone-headed Sorcerers with bladed staffs came at me down the spiral stairs through the arch...I blew him back through the arch, then he slammed head first into the wall leaving a badass looking smear on it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    well ... don't think im gonna get it until they fix the "fort knox + 12" protection

    daemon tools, alcohol 120, etc can be used for legal purposes ...
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Apr 13 2004, 05:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Apr 13 2004, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Uh, that's not copy right protection, that's the power of a dvd drive my friend. Had the same problem and it worked like a charm when switching the drive out with an ordinary one. Also I dont think costed 60 dolla <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wrong. That <i>is</i> copy protection causing it to not work in his cd drive and your dvd drive.
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    I use Daemon tools to emulate msot CD's I buy because my CD drive is a piece of crap and I'm too cheap to buy a new one, and Painkiller ran fine for me?

    I'm only on the 3rd level but this game is seriously awesome, I too enjoy starting up the Pain weapon, spinning its wee blades into a whirling frenzy and charging into a group of badguys. I'm just getting the hang of cunning kills, like pulling stone columns onto a group of badguys and collapsing buildings onto others.

    Truly beautiful.

    *goes back to playing*
  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20284Members
    edited April 2004
    That's strange. It didnt work for me when I had either program installed, and from what I've read on the painkiller forums it doesnt work for many other people either. Good to hear everything turned out fine though.

    I'm currently stuck on the Old Monastery, from a bug I think, but I can't be too sure.
  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20284Members
    Just an update, Dreamcather just released a patch supposedly fixing the issues many people have been having with copy protection.
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