The Zombie Survival Guide

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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    The clever thing about the book is it applys the whole Zombie ethos to the real world taking into account realism. Thats what makes it so useful and such a cool book to read.
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    edited April 2004
    This sounds like a book I could enjoy. I hardly ever reqad books, but this would be a good one to keep on the coffee table as a conversation starter <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (I still think the best vehicle in a zombie situation would be the combine though. Not only is the cab up high, if you move the ladder it is almost impossible for anything to climb it, plus all the space on it could be used for friends with weapons if you have any, and the grain bin could hold supplies such as extra ammo)

    *edit* Umm, can you get this book at you local nation wide franchise bookstore (i.e. Barnes and Noble) or do you have to get it from the net?
  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    Fire...
    fire will forefill all your zombie killing needs....
    Fire.....
    i like fire......
  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
    where do you get this book from, can i get it at any book store or do i have to order it off the internet
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hybridclaw+Apr 5 2004, 12:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hybridclaw @ Apr 5 2004, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fire...
    fire will forefill all your zombie killing needs....
    Fire.....
    i like fire...... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The living dead have no fear of fire. Waving an open flame in a ghoul's face will do nothing to slow or impede its advance. Zombies who have caught fire will neither notice nor react to the engulfing flames in any way. <i>Too many humans have met with tragedy for failing to understand that fire is no deterrent to zombies!</i>

    As a weapon, however, fire is still humanity's greatest ally. Complete incineration is the best way to destroy a zombie once and for all. Burning eliminates not only the body but all traces of Solanum. However, don't think a flamethrower and several Molotov cocktails are the solution to all your problems. In actual combat, fire can be as deadly a threat as it is a protector.

    Flesh -- human, undead, or otherwise -- takes a long time to burn. In the minutes or hours before a blazing zombie succumbs, it will become a walking -- or to be perfectly accurate, a shambling -- torch. Several cases have been recorded in which burning ghouls have done more damage, even caused more deaths, than they would have with only their fingernails and teeth.

    Fire itself has no loyalty. Consider the flammable nature of your surroundings, the chance of smoke inhalation, the possiblity that a blaze will act as a beacon for other zombies. All these factors must be considered before such a powerful and unpredictable weapon is unleashed.

    For this reason, fire is mainly considered an attack or flight weapon and rarely used for static defense.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The book goes on to talk about more specific means (Grenades, Molotov Cocktails, plain ol gasoline, etc.) In fact its actually somewhat frightening the level of instruction it goes into towards the Molotov's... heh.

    Oh and JEBURTO, I just went to the local book store and picked up a copy. If you go to a big one like Waldenbooks or Barns & Noble they should have it.
  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
    thank u thank u.

    im so getting it now,
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    Hey DOOManiac, what section was that in?
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 5 2004, 02:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 5 2004, 02:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Hybridclaw+Apr 5 2004, 12:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hybridclaw @ Apr 5 2004, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fire...
    fire will forefill all your zombie killing needs....
    Fire.....
    i like fire...... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The living dead have no fear of fire. Waving an open flame in a ghoul's face will do nothing to slow or impede its advance. Zombies who have caught fire will neither notice nor react to the engulfing flames in any way. <i>Too many humans have met with tragedy for failing to understand that fire is no deterrent to zombies!</i>

    As a weapon, however, fire is still humanity's greatest ally. Complete incineration is the best way to destroy a zombie once and for all. Burning eliminates not only the body but all traces of Solanum. However, don't think a flamethrower and several Molotov cocktails are the solution to all your problems. In actual combat, fire can be as deadly a threat as it is a protector.

    Flesh -- human, undead, or otherwise -- takes a long time to burn. In the minutes or hours before a blazing zombie succumbs, it will become a walking -- or to be perfectly accurate, a shambling -- torch. Several cases have been recorded in which burning ghouls have done more damage, even caused more deaths, than they would have with only their fingernails and teeth.

    Fire itself has no loyalty. Consider the flammable nature of your surroundings, the chance of smoke inhalation, the possiblity that a blaze will act as a beacon for other zombies. All these factors must be considered before such a powerful and unpredictable weapon is unleashed.

    For this reason, fire is mainly considered an attack or flight weapon and rarely used for static defense.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The book goes on to talk about more specific means (Grenades, Molotov Cocktails, plain ol gasoline, etc.) In fact its actually somewhat frightening the level of instruction it goes into towards the Molotov's... heh.

    Oh and JEBURTO, I just went to the local book store and picked up a copy. If you go to a big one like Waldenbooks or Barns & Noble they should have it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes because you are in a SHTF (**** hits the fan) senario)

    During a level 3 outbreak there is no choice but to excape...that means use whatever is available at the time be it alcohol to gasoline from a car.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Burr+Apr 5 2004, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Apr 5 2004, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey DOOManiac, what section was that in? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Weapons and Combat Techniques, of course. :P
  • Fro5tyFro5ty Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21238Members, Constellation
    Does it mention what kind of vehicles are safer like cars/trucks? What about escaping citites? Would it be safer to hoof it or to find some mode of transportation (motorbike or something?) And body protection? Would a heavy leather jacket (or trenchcoat) suffice in staving off a lone zombie bite or would some form of kevlar be needed? Also, should I be running to my local wal-mart for supplies or the local greasy spoon? So many questions, so little time! AHH! Here they come!
  • POOP_AkiraPOOP_Akira Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23468Members
    Just went get it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fr05t+Apr 6 2004, 12:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fr05t @ Apr 6 2004, 12:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Does it mention what kind of vehicles are safer like cars/trucks? What about escaping citites? Would it be safer to hoof it or to find some mode of transportation (motorbike or something?) And body protection? Would a heavy leather jacket (or trenchcoat) suffice in staving off a lone zombie bite or would some form of kevlar be needed? Also, should I be running to my local wal-mart for supplies or the local greasy spoon? So many questions, so little time! AHH! Here they come! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bikes are the best for of transport, as they do not require any fuel that could run out. Plus they keep you fit while you use them. Armoured cars are virtually indestructible to all but the biggest horde of zombies. Any other form of transportation just delays your doom.

    Dont bother about body protection, it won't help. Anything loose like a trenchcoat will get grabbed onto by zombies, pulling you back. A kevlar vest will protect your chest, which is the least likely place for a zombie to bite you. A T-Shirt and some tight trousers are your best bet. Also, keep your hair short (< 1 inch)

    Most supplies can be purchased from any good supermarket, but specialist weapons would need to be obtained from specialist suppliers, and guns would need to be got from an armoury
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    I wonder if i can get this in england , must have a look
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    Just got it, now I am prepared to face the hordes of the undead! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Do magnums pop zombie heads like old water balloons? (I would assume decapitation = death, since the zombie can't eat anymore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ).
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Just to test my old thesis - what does the book say about natural 'boneyard animals', such as worms, and their effect on the enemy forces, particularily in hot weather?
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    That they don't touch the deceased as they are pumped full of toxins caused by the disease that makes the zombie. This therefore makes parasites and other bacteria lay off the poisoned flesh. So the Zombie doesn't decay as quick.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Damn. This only leaves me with plan B - now where's the next K-Mart?
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Do magnums pop zombie heads like old water balloons? (I would assume decapitation = death, since the zombie can't eat anymore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, it says hand guns are a bad idea, since the normal person would have a hard time hitting a zombies head from far away, they do say they can be lifesavers if you are grabbed by a zombie, putting it to the temple and firing if you can.

    Oh, and it goes to say that zombies, even though they hunger for flesh, are completely self sustained organisms, they don't need food to survive, as any food they eat isn't digested anyway.

    *edit* Oh, and Valve was right, the best bludgeon weapon is the crowbar, because it is also useful as a tool to pry things if the need arises.
  • ElestiaElestia Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1130Members
    1) What type of ideal barricade or location for a barricade would be most effective in keeping the zombies from entering?

    2) What types of zombies are there?

    3) And is it wise to travel in groups?

    I must get the book myself. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 6 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 6 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Damn. This only leaves me with plan B - now where's the next K-Mart? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Shot smart. Shop S-Mart. ;)
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Burr+Apr 6 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Apr 6 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Do magnums pop zombie heads like old water balloons? (I would assume decapitation = death, since the zombie can't eat anymore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, it says hand guns are a bad idea, since the normal person would have a hard time hitting a zombies head from far away, they do say they can be lifesavers if you are grabbed by a zombie, putting it to the temple and firing if you can.

    Oh, and it goes to say that zombies, even though they hunger for flesh, are completely self sustained organisms, they don't need food to survive, as any food they eat isn't digested anyway.

    *edit* Oh, and Valve was right, the best bludgeon weapon is the crowbar, because it is also useful as a tool to pry things if the need arises. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, then I'm just tempted to ask, since chainsaws, shotguns and pistols/magnum (magnum pistols) are all ineffective, what is the right weapon to use on a zombie?

    I can't imagine it would be a crowbar, because, while it may allow you to perform constructive/destructive purposes, about all it's going to do is perform a piercing or bludgeoning attack which wouldn't stop something that doesn't feel pain.

    There's also the machete, but, honestly, who has a machete ready for use, especially if the zombies are popping out all over the place and you're not at the location of your machete?

    I would think if you're in close quarters a pistol would work the best (or even a shotgun, but then you do have to contend with slower repeat shots and low reload rate) or an automatic weapon. (Or maybe we all should be carrying swords <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    edited April 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Elestia+Apr 6 2004, 01:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elestia @ Apr 6 2004, 01:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1) What type of ideal barricade or location for a barricade would be most effective in keeping the zombies from entering?

    2) What types of zombies are there?

    3) And is it wise to travel in groups?

    I must get the book myself. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, I will try to answer some of these questions, maybe others with the book could help.

    1.) Basically, it says if your in a house and it is more than one story, head upstairs and destroy the stairs. Concrete walls and iron fences (tall ones) are helpful, but if there are many zombies they will start to climb up on each other, making a zombie ramp. It doesn't have an "ideal" barricade, but it does have helpful tips for many situations.

    2.) This basically covers the "virus" zombie, the one that if it bites you you get infected. It does talk about the "vodoo zombie", but it says these are not true undead zombies, just brain damaged people.

    3.) It doesn't really go into it, of course it would be wise to do so in my opinion, different people have different skills, you could have sleep/guard schedules, and you could carry more. However, more people means more supplies, and of course if one gets bit you will to put a bullet in their brain because there is no help of saving them.

    And for UltimaGecko, it says the best weapon is your own body, to at least escape thier cold grasp. It goes into detail about the different kinds of weapons, their strengths and weaknesses. It never goes into what is best, its just a hlepful guide to allow you to make the right choices depending on the situation....

    why do I feel like such a <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> for having this book? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    Anything on zombie animals? (dog a la Resident Evil?)
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+Apr 6 2004, 02:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Apr 6 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anything on zombie animals? (dog a la Resident Evil?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It says that only humans can get this certain virus, and any animals that get it will die from its toxic nature before the mutation of the brain can take affect.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    I elect Burr as NS.org's "Defender Against the Zombie Hordes" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, you're being very professional about divining the information that we request.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    I second that election!
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    What about me? I quoted two whole freakin pages word for word! :P
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    I. WANT . THIS . BOOK
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    edited April 2004
    Wow, in this case living on a farm has its advantages. Its far away from the urban environment (where zombie infection spreads quickly), there is plenty of food and water (corn, wheat, pigs), we have all kinds of weapons (Off the top of my head I know we have a machette, a scythe, a few axes, some crowbars, some sledgehammers, two chainsaws, 5 shotguns, 3 .22 rifles, as well as a high powered hunting rife w/scope (forget the numbers on it), a mini 14, some pistols.), a different variety of vehicles (cars, trucks, dump truck, large and small tractors, dirtbike, fourwheelers, combine). 3 different gas tanks (Gasoline, Kerosene, Deisel fuel). The only thing I need to find is the most defendable place on the farm...maybe a hay loft that requires a ladder.

    Yes, I am well prepared for a zombie attack! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    *edit* DOOM, you can have the job, because you would seriously regret having me in charge, and remember if you do get infected I will not hesitate to make sure you don't spread the disease....
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