Valve To Put 3rd Party Mods On Games Menu In Steam

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
edited March 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">neat...</div>Saw this on PHL:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We'd like to begin collecting builds from Mod teams interested in distributing their Mod on Steam.
Players will be able to click on the icon for your Mod in the Games list to install your Mod and then get all of the files they need. This means they won't need to visit a web site to download the content and install it manually. We will be able to release new versions of your Mod on Steam so everyone will automatically get the updates.

Dedicated servers will also be able to get the content for your Mod.

We should be ready to start distributing Mods on Steam in the next few weeks. In the meantime, if you'd like to have your team's Mod included, please put together a complete build of what you'd like to release (.zip or .exe) and send me an e-mail with a link to the file so I can download it and get things ready on our end. Make sure the build you give us has been tested with Steam.

Please also include contact information for a Mod team member for us to communicate with if we have any questions/problems.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Eric Smith [erics@valvesoftware.com]
Valve<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This is great news for mod authors. More people will know about your mod, and by statistics alone there will be players who will get curious and download it. Another awesome feature will be instead of having a mod come out then having to release like 4 patches to fix things, just have STEAM automagically update everything. You know, like what it was originally supposed to do! The biggest advantage however is that you're taking bandwidth load off your servers and putting it onto Valve's (finally somewhat acceptably equipped) content servers.

For everyone else, its both good and bad news.

Good news being now players will be able to play mods they never even knew existed. So for hundreds of thousands of players who have never heard of (for example) Natural Selection, they might check it out.

Bad news is now every freaking mod that Valve puts in the menu is going to be cluttering everybody's menu. I mean what if 100 HL mods apply for this? And you know every single HL2 mod made will want the same thing...

Methinks this service will really start to shine with HL2 mods though.

Comments

  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    ...and then we get thousands of people who haven't read the manual and ask how you do anything.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Yeah, HL2 is going to use Steam a lot better, I think.

    It was said long ago, if i remember right, that the current builds of HL/Steam are really just test-beds for HL2. That's why voicecomm was added to HL and that's why Steam was launched this early.
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    You'll get <span style='font-size:30pt;line-height:100%'><b>CS</b></span> players.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    which is why mod authors need to start offering ingame help menus and interactive tutorials. :)
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    That's very nice of Valve.

    I don't really think that we'll get the problem of hundreds of mods cluttering the steam menu so much because there are a damn sight more HL mods in (some stage of) production than actually up and running. At the very least, they'll tab them alphabetically.
  • ZyndromeZyndrome Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14974Members
    A collapsable games-list is a must-have for this, when the mods starts to crowd.
    Why not implement a maturitytest to spare the game experience for thousands? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Mar 29 2004, 08:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 29 2004, 08:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> which is why mod authors need to start offering ingame help menus and interactive tutorials. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know, if someone went through and corrected the titles.txt in the NS folder for 3.0, I bet Flayra would be eternally grateful.

    *Hint, Hint* <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Edit: I don't know the diffence between an and and. Could someone please beat me with a tire iron?
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Are the Valve servers really ready for this? They're hard pressed enough with big steam updates, what happens when all these mods start updating too?
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    wait... you don't get a choice for what games appear on your "My Games" list? I was under the impression that only the games you downloaded to your comp would show up.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Mar 29 2004, 10:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Mar 29 2004, 10:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are the Valve servers really ready for this? They're hard pressed enough with big steam updates, what happens when all these mods start updating too? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    People wanting to DL ns is not even close in number to the people who need CS updates...
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    <a href='http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1' target='_blank'>http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1</a>

    dooms right, looks at the cs users, then look at BOTH of the NS players.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    I hope that they set up a better display for them.

    Instead of that silly little window with just the names.

    Make a searchable mod DB. Nice descriptions by the Authors, posibly links to/actual reviews, and the manuals right there (or again, links to em). That would be fun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Especialy once HL2 comes out, if it ends up as moded as people want it to be, then well..... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:)
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Mar 29 2004, 11:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Mar 29 2004, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope that they set up a better display for them.

    Instead of that silly little window with just the names.

    Make a searchable mod DB. Nice descriptions by the Authors, posibly links to/actual reviews, and the manuals right there (or again, links to em). That would be fun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Especialy once HL2 comes out, if it ends up as moded as people want it to be, then well..... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yah that would be nice, also possibly linking you to said mods site.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    well, yah....
    I think that was in the article itself.....
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    woooot! science and industry here I come!!!
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Maybe you'll be able to remove mods you don't want from the list or "approve" them like in the friends list.


    And woah, people actually paid money to play CS with a few additions? ( condition zero)
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Mar 30 2004, 05:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Mar 30 2004, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...and then we get thousands of people who haven't read the manual and ask how you do anything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude, don't say that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    I think it's a great thing, I'd love to try more mods, but I don't want to visit all those sites and wait 60 min in line at fileplanet.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Mar 30 2004, 01:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Mar 30 2004, 01:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And woah, people actually paid money to play CS with a few additions? ( condition zero) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yep.

    I got the flashy bot that speaks to me over the voicecomm and plays better than 3/4 of the playerbase of CS and doe's not speak "l33t"

    I got some superb singleplayer missions.

    Oh and did I mention the Half-Life 2 footage?
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Don't worry guys. One thing I've noticed about VALVe: They've never screwed up when it comes to interfaces and simplicity with the like. This'll be good. If anything, I'd bet the mods would be in a folder under "Mods" in the My Games database, and thus you can choose what you want to have.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    hopefully the 3.0 manual will automatically pop-up after installing 3.0 so you have no excuse for not reading it.

    Thats what <b>I</b> would do anyway...
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    b/c my net is dead atm I I don't feel like putting the strain of booting up Steam:

    Don't the uninstalled games go to the bottom of the list?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Mar 30 2004, 08:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Mar 30 2004, 08:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't worry guys. One thing I've noticed about VALVe: They've never screwed up when it comes to interfaces and simplicity with the like. This'll be good. If anything, I'd bet the mods would be in a folder under "Mods" in the My Games database, and thus you can choose what you want to have. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's because they've only done it twice. :P They coulda gotten lucky both times. And from UI design standpoints, the Steam UI is pretty much the first thing to come to mind when thinking about possibilities, its actually pretty run of the mill except for the color scheme. ;)
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Mar 30 2004, 09:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Mar 30 2004, 09:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't worry guys. One thing I've noticed about VALVe: They've never screwed up when it comes to interfaces and simplicity with the like. This'll be good. If anything, I'd bet the mods would be in a folder under "Mods" in the My Games database, and thus you can choose what you want to have. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's one thing I love about steam, the in-game and outside UIs. Looking at other new multiplayer games, it's so much simpler and easier to use.
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