Money And Scholarships Yay!
<div class="IPBDescription">For my work</div> I recently got 100 dollers and a possible scholarship for my work on my latest political flash video that was distrubted. It has made shockwaves through the veteran community and fully explains what John Kerry did after he served in Vietnam.
<a href='http://www.stopjohn.com' target='_blank'>Hanoi John</a>
But off note, I got a scholarship and 105 bucks for my work, I am most pleased, I figured with the whole "vietnam era revival" that the Full Metal Jacket look would work best, The best thing to read is some of the stories I get from former veterans and how they served.
Overall, I think it is a huge success.
(PS) Im blocked from the discussion board, but since this is off topic I figured it would be good to put here.
<a href='http://www.stopjohn.com' target='_blank'>Hanoi John</a>
But off note, I got a scholarship and 105 bucks for my work, I am most pleased, I figured with the whole "vietnam era revival" that the Full Metal Jacket look would work best, The best thing to read is some of the stories I get from former veterans and how they served.
Overall, I think it is a huge success.
(PS) Im blocked from the discussion board, but since this is off topic I figured it would be good to put here.
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but good choices in music <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> and well done for getting the scholarship
And I don't like that use of "Communist". :/
Is that referring to this flash or...
Is that referring to this flash or... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Propaganda?! Your crazy, most of this was captured from his own book or Senate, all of this was said as true by john kerry.
And I don't like that use of "Communist". :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because during that time, "communists" of the period went off killing anyone who might fight against the government.
Guess what, VVAW wanted to kill enemy's of their ideals.
John Kerry later flip flopped saying he WAS at the meeting but didn't agree with the collaberators.
And props to you for making the film. You earned your money <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Im guessing you only paid attention to the ladder half. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Infact if you watch the movie Platoon, you will notice during his speech to congress almost everything he said was put into that movie.
I earned my money explaining the truth about John Kerry's activity post-vietnam.
If anything what he said whe'll protesting the war were lies, and later debunked,
You know why no one brings up the issue of vietnam anymore? Because they don't want to admit they took the wrong side of the debate, the north vietnamese were suppost to be "different". Insted the LPRP killed anyone who might oppose them.
I know this should belong in the discussion group but I figured since BF:Vietnam was going around and the popularity of the Vietnam conflict was going around that this would make a good post.
Nem will probley lock it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
nice
i like the 2nd song in it..
Alone in my prizon by Prozacltd..
such a tune!
(its the menu tune from EoD)
nice
i like the 2nd song in it..
Alone in my prizon by Prozacltd..
such a tune!
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Yeah I really liked that song, and i wanted something to stimulate change in the movie and the change in Kerry's behavior.
Not the one you were trying to raise, at least <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->he lied in congress<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Name a politician who hasn't
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->labelled all the vietnam vets as killers thugs and rapists<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought he said that raping and civilian murdering happened, which is probably true.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and then buried the POW/MIA issue.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I'm not aware of all the sides of this issue, so I can't really say what would've been a better course of action.
But anyway, I think Kerry is just another politician. No more, no less. Some people like his ideologies, some don't. That's the way it goes.
Not the one you were trying to raise, at least <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->he lied in congress<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Name a politician who hasn't
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->labelled all the vietnam vets as killers thugs and rapists<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought he said that raping and civilian murdering happened, which is probably true.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and then buried the POW/MIA issue.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I'm not aware of all the sides of this issue, so I can't really say what would've been a better course of action.
But anyway, I think Kerry is just another politician. No more, no less. Some people like his ideologies, some don't. That's the way it goes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not...infact war crimes were quite low due to all the war coverage on the TV.
You also didn't see the point where he straight up abandons his crew for a a nice job working for a Admiral.
In that, Kerry cemented the image of the Vietnam vet. You couldn't even call yourself a vet because it was a dirty word back then, and quite unfair that one person can label an entire military like he did and what you won't hear is that alot of people hate him because he buried the POW/MIA issue.
Want to know something funny about this, the people who protested the war had more post war problems then the vets did.
Thats what it feels like.
Im guessing you only paid attention to the ladder half. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Infact if you watch the movie Platoon, you will notice during his speech to congress almost everything he said was put into that movie.
I earned my money explaining the truth about John Kerry's activity post-vietnam.
If anything what he said whe'll protesting the war were lies, and later debunked,
You know why no one brings up the issue of vietnam anymore? Because they don't want to admit they took the wrong side of the debate, the north vietnamese were suppost to be "different". Insted the LPRP killed anyone who might oppose them.
I know this should belong in the discussion group but I figured since BF:Vietnam was going around and the popularity of the Vietnam conflict was going around that this would make a good post.
Nem will probley lock it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But it DID happen, you can't try to discredit an anti-war person by saying "Well, some of our troops raped children, and women, razed the villages and shot their animals for fun.. BUT NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE A DIFFREENCE"
I can see this video hurting your political persuasion more than helping <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
See, the people who were protested the war had a higher rape per capita (by police reports) then the GIs during the war.
so your stance is void.
Most of it was manufactured by VVAW anyway, some of it in which was made up by CIVILIANS.
If it did, then its nothing worth yammering about. I mean don't you find it hypocritical that the same people who protested the war were breaking into houses, raping woman, ect. just as guilty?
Im guessing you only paid attention to the ladder half. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Infact if you watch the movie Platoon, you will notice during his speech to congress almost everything he said was put into that movie.
I earned my money explaining the truth about John Kerry's activity post-vietnam.
If anything what he said whe'll protesting the war were lies, and later debunked,
You know why no one brings up the issue of vietnam anymore? Because they don't want to admit they took the wrong side of the debate, the north vietnamese were suppost to be "different". Insted the LPRP killed anyone who might oppose them.
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anyways about american atrocities during the war.
So Kerry tells of some of the things that happen?
So?
War atrocities by Americans did happen.
The video makes it sound like you are trying to blame Kerry for presenting this negative image of the US Soldier.
The truth can hurt huh.
No matter what the consequences of his testimony as precieved the rest of the anti war people, things like that did happen. And so did the anti war population most likely unfairly explode this information into something of an untrue and exagerated level most likely yes.
In fact I cant think of a single onflict where any country in the world hasnt had a group of soldiers commit some sort of war crime.
Doesnt anyone remeber the US take over and occupation of the PHillipenes in 1902?
Called the Fillipeno Insurrection?
US forces considered FIlipinos as sub human. In fact US forces would routinly herd local village populations into spceial concentration camps and then burn their homes, farms, animals,and crops so that they would later starve.
In fact we just watched early video of US forces rounding up random villagers, civilians not involved with the fighting I might add, making them dig a big pit and then having them stand at its edge while US Army troops shot them into the pit.
Im getting this straight of of my history book here and class here...
Hoping to exterminate any "future potential" rebels.
hmm who else is usualy known for doing such things...
Atrocities happen in every war by every side. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
as for leaving Americans behind, lets not forget the hundreds of South Vientnames commandos that were fighting under the US flag that were sent behind enemy lines. Whos funding and support was later cut off by the US governemnt and when they were captured the US govt suddenly didnt know who they were.
When it was time to exchange POWS the South Vietnames ones who were sent behind enemy lines werent even talked about in the negotiations by the US.
Today interviews with regretful CIA directors response "Its a very sad thing, as they were troops under the US, the only reason they wernt negotiated for was becasue they were asian."
Lets not forget the Iran/Contra deal either...
Sell weapons to help supporont one government secure power over another (in the same country) and then use the funds to support another military coup in south America.
Tell the coup rebel fighters that they have the FULL support of the US. Then when congress finds out they yank plug.
Congress: Mr President why did you ever agree to this illegal action?
President: I didnt.
Congress: But you signed the order into action yourself See. (Holds up order)
President: ummmm err. I didnt know what that was when I signed it.
Congress: Riiight.
The US has a long but not so proud history of supporting actions to "influence the state of other governemnts- including assassination" especially in South America, asia, the middle east. Then forgetting to cover there own **** or by gross cases of wrong intel based desicion making (Bay of Pigs Invasion) thus making them either out right fail or cut off their own forces thus leaving people behind.
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Kerry's fault when he was apart of the POW/MIA affairs
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->anyways about american atrocities during the war.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How about Atrocities commited by the LPRP after we left. I guess those who protested the war are to blame,
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Congress: Mr President why did you ever agree to this illegal action?
President: I didnt.
Congress: But you signed the order into action yourself See. (Holds up order)
President: ummmm err. I didnt know what that was when I signed it.
Congress: Riiight.
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Read up more on the Bay of Pigs and who is responcible
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US forces considered FIlipinos as sub human. In fact US forces would routinly herd local village populations into spceial concentration camps and then burn their homes, farms, animals,and crops so that they would later starve.
In fact we just watched early video of US forces rounding up random villagers, civilians not involved with the fighting I might add, making them dig a big pit and then having them stand at its edge while US Army troops shot them into the pit.
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Where did you see this video at? US army you say?
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Kerry's fault when he was apart of the POW/MIA affairs
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Congress: Mr President why did you ever agree to this illegal action?
President: I didnt.
Congress: But you signed the order into action yourself See. (Holds up order)
President: ummmm err. I didnt know what that was when I signed it.
Congress: Riiight.
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Read up more on the Bay of Pigs and who is responcible
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US forces considered FIlipinos as sub human. In fact US forces would routinly herd local village populations into spceial concentration camps and then burn their homes, farms, animals,and crops so that they would later starve.
In fact we just watched early video of US forces rounding up random villagers, civilians not involved with the fighting I might add, making them dig a big pit and then having them stand at its edge while US Army troops shot them into the pit.
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Where did you see this video at? US army you say? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course reasoning is good <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Kerry had nothing to do with the non releaseage of South vietnames POWS that was all the CIAs buiessness .
Im talking about the Iran/Contra Affair not the Bay of Pigs disaster in that next qoute.
That video would be from the History channel. its also in my college history class text book
<u>Nation of Nations: A Consice Narrative of the American Repbulic</u>
which is about US history from the post Civil War reconstruction to present day
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for example.
Why the hell do you think everything he said then he went off to flop the entire issue.
<a href='http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/kerryMTP.wmv' target='_blank'>Flip.....FLOP</a>
See, I win this arguement <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you notice, he broaded his statement to include (all soldiers of the field)
Later to deny and say he was a "young man"
I win because he was proven wrong.
Moral of story, John Kerry will say anything for political power, he has done it back then, he is doing it now. Back then he sold the name of the vietnam vet as a killer and he benefitted on it.
Waffles anyone?
Exactly. I refuse to vote for either one of them. With idiot candidates like this as our only two choices no wonder like 13% of people vote...
Moral of story, John Kerry will say anything for political power, he has done it back then, he is doing it now. Back then he sold the name of the vietnam vet as a killer and he benefitted on it.
Waffles anyone? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kinda like bush trying to say sadam and osama are on the same side and working together in the "terror industry" to help boost support for going into Iraq, when in reality they hate each other?
Sadam, being a Bathist secularist and Osama being on the total other side of the ideolgical spectrum?
In fact during the 1st gulf war Osama contacted the Saudis and offered to help insert his trained commandos to try to assasinate sadam.
Osama also referred to sadam as an infidel in one of those famous video tapes played on the news. (that part was censored out in the US but was played in other parts of the world.)
Blueberry Pancakes anyone? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
either way we could debate this forever.
I really do like how you and me can intelligently debate this however.
No locks yet lol. Maybe one day we can meet and talk further at one of those IHOP (International House of Pancakes) restaraunts for breakfast. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I did like your movie though You get an A for effort.
oh and for the record i dont plan on giving my vote to either bush or kerry.
Moral of story, John Kerry will say anything for political power, he has done it back then, he is doing it now. Back then he sold the name of the vietnam vet as a killer and he benefitted on it.
Waffles anyone? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kinda like bush trying to say sadam and osama are on the same side and working together in the "terror industry" to help boost support for going into Iraq, when in reality they hate each other?
Sadam, being a Bathist secularist and Osama being on the total other side of the ideolgical spectrum?
In fact during the 1st gulf war Osama contacted the Saudis and offered to help insert his trained commandos to try to assasinate sadam.
Osama also referred to sadam as an infidel in one of those famous video tapes played on the news. (that part was censored out in the US but was played in other parts of the world.)
Blueberry Pancakes anyone? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
either way we could debate this forever.
I really do like how you and me can intelligently debate this however.
No locks yet lol. Maybe one day we can meet and talk further at one of those IHOP (International House of Pancakes) restaraunts for breakfast. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I did like your movie though You get an A for effort.
oh and for the record i dont plan on giving my vote to either bush or kerry. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kinda like how many billions of dollers have suddenly wound up missing?
You see its not just Saddam in control it's his Ba'ath party thats in control. To point out, there air shiites in his party, there was alot of money that went missing, Saddam was willing to do business with pretty much anyone just to stay in power.
Whats even more funny you bring up something as far back as Operation: Desert Storm you would know Saddam was quite powerful then and his Ba'athist party was quite deadly and he was rageing against the Iranians. So it would seem logical to attack the secularist Ba'ath party at that time to secure the middle east's islamism.
Whats funny about Kerry is, not even the hard left like him.
Vote Libertarian.
Heres my opinion about Bush's service, the whole story is mixed up, one day they say he was AWOL, which by law is punishable by death in this country. The next they say he was missing for 17 months, then this dental record shows up and serveral people have come forward saying he was studying, I've talked to men in the armed forces and him taking advantage of his position was something they would of done as well. To point out, being a jet fighter is something that CAN be commended, and Bush was quite good at what he did.
Military service is non issue (unless the democrat served in the military).
to end this, (looking at CWAG's Signature)
If the Young Communist Youth League states that Castro was a dictator, then why do they still have exchange trips to Cuba?
CPUSA are nothing but stalinists. then, and still work with Stalinist today. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->