Ns 1.04

HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Just the things you liked..</div> I know I know, bunny hopping, jetpack rushes, bla bla bla. I'm here to hear the things you liked about NS 1.04 and earlier. I just watched the old trailer again, and I was abosolutly wowed by it.

Things I liked were

The one gorge builder. Thats the way it should be.
The larger alien structures. It actually looked a lot...well quite frankly, <i>less cute.</i>
The hive importance. Even though that when the aliens got to hive 2, and the marines didnt have 3/3 HA with HMGS to fight off the fades, this put a lot more action on the game.
THE FADES. They were fantastic, with the acid rocket, and actually scary. Now they're just kinda...playtoys. Dont give me "you have to be good" stuff, they just are scary. Its like a cross between Jesus's messenger and barney flying through the skys and he wants to hug you.

What did you like? And if you didnt like parts of them, DONT POST IT HERE. Only the parts you LIKED, not disliked. PLEASE.
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    one gorge building,

    fades having bile bomb and acid at two hives

    THE OLDSCHOOL BLINK! <-- loved it


    [edit]
    oh yeah, I must have been high becuase I forgot to say babblers as cool and useless as they are, they still were effing sweet
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  • Fade_DunawayFade_Dunaway Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16235Members
    I really miss the older, slower-firing shotguns, made them more of a connesueir's (sp?) weapon.

    Buggy but OH SO COOL Fade blink...I want it back <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    1.04 Lerk was the best. Great for both support and combat. Bite, spikes, umbra spores. I think this should have never changed, even if we lost primal entirely. Now that umbra isn't unstoppable, I think this lerk could be revisited. <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Hmmm, that's about it.
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  • XPDaveXPDave Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17790Members, Constellation
    old fade
    old lerk
    marine bhopping
    old jetpacks
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  • jaboojaboo Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25076Members
    i love the old lerk flying
    the scary onoes's mouth
    1 gorge
    the old lazers
    mineing people




    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> _____________ <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    HMG's arnt long range.... USE YOUR PISTOL YOU NEWB
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  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    edited March 2004
    Yeah, I definately liked the old blink alot...acid fade vs melee fade

    I remember people always said with fades and lerks, the next level for leetness was meleeing, using lerk bite and fade swipe rather than acid and spikes


    Oh yeah, and admins actually BANNING people for going early lerk/gorge...The overflow was killed.
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    -One Gorge(namely the fast res)
    -Old Blink(I don't miss 1 hive acid rockets, but the new blink is just so stupid)
    -Being able to take upgrades as a skulk without hurting res
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  • jaboojaboo Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25076Members
    i miss those old day's "sigh"
    oh ya i loved when the other team blamed there loss on ther only gorge lol
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  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    edited March 2004
    ...that still happens
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  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    One <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • jaboojaboo Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25076Members
    no i mean when there was only one gorge and he was a newb/badatit.



    and the flying of the lerk was funny
    _____ <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> _________ <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    FF IS ON U NEWB
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  • MightyDarKMightyDarK Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27322Members, Constellation
    almost everything expecpt the bugs i really miss 1.04 and less mostly the LERK <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    My favorite thing about 1.04 was the hives, namely the fact that 3 hives really was a game ender as it should be. Aliens actually gained some major offensive firepower when 3 hives came around.

    It made commanding alot more difficult keeping hives down, but the harder the battle the sweeter the victory with plenty of "WTH"s and "omg"s abound.
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  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    Loved the lerk. Perfect imo. Weapons, flight and health values. Loved old blink - when it worked. I mean the new one now a days is like extended hopping. Fade acid rocket = <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Hella fun, but it was too strong at 80 damage per pop. Loved how charge and leap would own marines in a single second. BABBBBLLEEEERRRSS. I loved how all the maps used to be so dark dimly lit. Loved how the turrets used to be a lot bigger, and how the chambers, res, buildings in general were a lot bigger.
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  • MightyDarKMightyDarK Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27322Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    another thing is about the lerk i think when the people asked for a melee attack on it. it got it but the way the movement of the leark has been reduced is crazy both air and ground the lerk is SLOW on ground now before it was bouncing away <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    ... miss it

    and almost forgot NS_BAST ! never see that map no more
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  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Yeah, the old large buildings were great. Everything is like a third smaller now. I loved those big buildings, even with the buggy boxes.

    Also: LASER TRIP MINES PLZ. The addition of being able to make ladders out of mines is a nice touch, but nobody plans for it except really devious marine teams with excellent coordination and planning. Agora has a secret weld point which a pack of five mines will get you up to, for instance. But implausable mine ladders aside, the lasers made the mines really shine. ... no pun intended.

    Do mines still blow up if you shoot at them with friendly fire on??</span>
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    3.0 well balanced, 1.0 well scarey <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    yeah it really scared the life out of you to think that if you didnt capture a hive in the first 5 or so mins of the game then the chances of you winning were close to 0, although it was great when one comm actually managed it, 8 play ha train, no losses <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    Spikes
    Primal Scream NOT on lerk
    Babblers <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    The awsome comebacks from out of nowhere
    Lack of devour
    SC commonly being used as first upgrade chamber for the first week or so of 1.0x
    One gorge that got 3x res
    Better defences around hives
    Less competition for kills on the alien team (since kills=res Kinda supports the theory of the strong get stronger while the weak get weaker)
    Healspray and welder being good weapons
    Webs at 2nd hive
    Bile bomb on Fade
    Onos paralyze
    Broken hitboxes (except for marines) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I don't remember much else that I liked... NS 1.0x was good at first, but then the same strats again and again just ruined it... except it was always good to beat the JP/HMG rush.
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  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Unknown+Mar 23 2004, 12:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Unknown @ Mar 23 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Broken hitboxes (except for marines) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You must have never crouched in a vent before.
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  • A_Damn_FoolA_Damn_Fool Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19283Members
    Ahh 1.4 I remember it well "when all hopes fades... there rises a man with a purpose... to take out that damn fade who stalks the halls" (thats my fondest memory of NS)

    I miss the one gorge, God that was the good stuff a good gorge was the way its suppose to be the Gorge's tatics vs the Comms tatics. People actually protected him it was like "you and him go with gorge to vent and protect him while he puts up hive" not like now wheres its like "can we get a gorge to put a hive up in vent?" and they dont even clear it... sigh

    I miss fade actually being scary. When fades came you were like "OH SHIET!!! DA FADE DEY GOT DA FADE GET SOME PEOPLE HERE NOW!!" (trying to recreate my rapid typing) I mean now its like oh look a fade <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> well thats that

    I miss the fact that 1.4 <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> meant something... none of this 8 min crap where you had people rushing it. You never even thought about onos till you were either winning or you were playing a really long game

    Oh yeah I miss gorges ability to get webbing sooner I mean why is it a 3 hive ability its so damn useful for protecting you from JPers and basically anything.

    And for giggles I miss the <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->'s Spawn massive drones attack (I forgot what its called but it was so much fun)

    P.S whats with this maxiumum number of emoticon thingy thats just silly.
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  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    Lone <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> for teh win!
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  • TeKniKaLTeKniKaL Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12802Members
    I kinda miss the JP. If the refuel bug was taken out, fun fun fun.
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  • bertbert Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13433Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Mar 22 2004, 05:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Mar 22 2004, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> THE OLDSCHOOL BLINK! <-- loved it <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OMG it took me like a month to learn how to use that blink properly but it was the BEST EFFING ABILITY EVER. I LOVED THAT ABILITY. i remember blinking behind marines and they were like WTH where'd that thing go and then i'd claw them in the back. oh man. that blink was the best. i can't even begin to describe.

    bert.
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  • jaboojaboo Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25076Members
    ya ya ya


    but i loved the lerkness of jumpyness.. it was like wooooooh cant shoot the lerk its to fast for ya. aliens were scary.
    1. lerks were super fast and unpredictable
    2. Fades were the spawn of hell
    3. gorges allways had backup (rarly see a groge on his own in 1.4)
    BUT WHAT I MISS THE MOST IS THE MINES


    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> - - - - - <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> -> hahahah you cant catch the BERZERKLERK
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  • ElectricSheepElectricSheep Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15716Members
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=39&t=62945&st=0#entry927948' target='_blank'>It's been brought up and more fully in this thread.</a> I still think that a massive replaying of 1.04 to find what made it fun would be great to imcorporate the best of 3.0, 2.0, and 1.04.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Ok ok, so from what I gather so far is..

    <b><u>Fade</u></b>
    -Acid Rocket
    -Blink

    <b><u>Lerk</u></b>
    -Spikes + Bite

    <b><u>Gorge!</u></b> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    -One gorge builder
    -Babblers!
    -Old large buildings

    <b><u>Onos</u></b> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    -Was actually SCARY! (Yes kids, once upon a time it took more than two marines to take down one onos! Imagine!)

    <b><u>Hives</u></b>
    -More Important
    -Hive Limits (To an extent. I believe hive limits should be onos at hive 2, with fade at hive one, but the fade also gets acid rocket at hive one. Onos would be like 1.04 fade)

    <b><u>Marines</u></b> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    -Trip Mines!

    <b><u>Otherl</u></b>
    -Longer games! (Mainly due to the buildings being more expensive)


    I think these are what made NS fun back then. Works for me.
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  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    edited March 2004
    -laser mines (laser + turrets = scary looking base)
    -lerk weapon setup (new flight pwnz j00 tho)
    -the gorge-team relation. If the gorge was in any kind of danger, the whole team WILL be there
    -the hive-player relation. see last point
    -the generous amount of detail in the maps. (double door in caged, that door in shipping in caged, tanith doors, all of old hera)
    -pitch dark hallways...I used to love hiding ocs in the dark <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    -onos being powerful
    -the 'look' of old blink. There seriously needs to be a compromise between the utility of new blink, and the 1337er looking old one
    -earlier web/useful charge


    -OMG BLABBERS!
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  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    -No co_
    -Less maps in general. Sounds pretty awkward, but then we actually had a reasonable amount of time to learn a map. That and I actually could remember all the locations, location names.
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  • oOgAoOgA Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25715Members
    miss the old bliink :\
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  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Mar 22 2004, 10:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Mar 22 2004, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Unknown+Mar 23 2004, 12:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Unknown @ Mar 23 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Broken hitboxes (except for marines) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You must have never crouched in a vent before. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, I mean I didn't like the broken hitboxes for marines. The aliens broken hitboxes I liked <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> (I play aliens 99.9% of the time)

    Ah, I forgot... the lerk umlimited speed. I love the new flight model though... Now I can bite things in air!
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  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    edited March 2004
    One Gorge To Rule Them All.

    oh and hmg rush <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    OH and laser trip mines!!!!!!
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