Greetings all. I decided after following the development of this mod for over a year and lurking in the forums to finally register an account and make a post. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
It looks like after a lot of hard effort by the developers and playtesters that things are coming together spendidly for the the v1.0 release. Great job guys -- and know that I'll be losing interest in the outside world for a few weeks once I get my grimey hands on what looks to be the best mod ever to be produced for HL.
Da_SargeOld School SuckJoin Date: 2002-10-15Member: 1502Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->It looks like after a lot of hard effort by the developers and playtesters that things are coming together spendidly for the the v1.0 release. Great job guys -- and know that I'll be losing interest in the outside world for a few weeks once I get my grimey hands on what looks to be the best mod ever to be produced for HL.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heh, good job man. You just summed up the thoughts of just about everyone on these forums. Well done. (I mean it too, no sarcasm intended <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> )
<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Oct. 16 2002,18:00--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Flayra @ Oct. 16 2002,18:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->O blinkfail.wav O New xenocide explode O Add new xenocide effect O Removed HMG slowdown, it can be fired from air again (too confusing and weird) O Allow hives to be hurt while building (bounding box issue)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> These points stick out the most.
A) Blinkfail? Are you keeping somthing from us? B&C) Yay! I'm glad you fixed it. I wasn't too happy with what it was before. D)Heavy Machine Gun + Jetpack = Apache! Wewt! (Who says there are no vehicles in Natural Selection?) E) Mixed feelings on this. I kinda liked the idea of setting up a hive and running away, praying to god some of your teammates respawn before it gets pummeled.
<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Oct. 16 2002,18<!--emo&:0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Flayra @ Oct. 16 2002,18<!--emo&:0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->O Can no longer change skin via console unless cheats are on<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So you can't choose your skincolor with the setskin command anymore? I fail to see the reason why one should not be able to choose their own skincolor, although I suppose there should be some reason for it that I fail to see at this point.
Anyways, <i>that</i> is a <i>big changelog</i>. I can only imagine the amount of stress you are under, Flayra. You are amazing. You've put almost 3 years of work into this thing and you're not even getting a penny out of it. I guess all I can give you are my thanks.
<!--QuoteBegin--BedwettingType+Oct. 16 2002,22:11--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (BedwettingType @ Oct. 16 2002,22:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->You've put almost 3 years of work into this thing and you're not even getting a penny out of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Such a pessimist. Remember, he owns the Trademark for Natural Selection, not to mention the copyright. Besides, think of how this will look on his resume.
But it is still astounding he is working now for no pay, and started, not knowing where the project might take him.
-Ryan!
"I have a koala infestation. Much cuter than a roach infestation." -- Mitch Hedburg
<!--QuoteBegin--Freemantle+Oct. 16 2002,18:15--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Freemantle @ Oct. 16 2002,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->A) Blinkfail? Are you keeping somthing from us? B&C) Yay! I'm glad you fixed it. I wasn't too happy with what it was before. D)Heavy Machine Gun + Jetpack = Apache! Wewt! (Who says there are no vehicles in Natural Selection?) E) Mixed feelings on this. I kinda liked the idea of setting up a hive and running away, praying to god some of your teammates respawn before it gets pummeled.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sometimes blinks fail, and you don't get teleported anywhere. blinkfail. How could you have known what it was before if you've never seen it?
If hives can't be destroyed while building, then an ambitious and lucky builder can run into a marine controlled hive room and start the hive on its way. Marine defenses can't do anything, and more than likely, the aliens will be able to evolve to higher level creatures in the short time it takes the marines to bring the hive back down. It screams exploit.
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
More importantly regarding attackable unbuilt hives - Turrets *will* lock onto and attack an unbuilt hive, whether or not they can hit it. This fact can be used to "distract" every turret in a marine base that's set up in a hive... meanwhile, the aliens clear out the turrets at their leisure.
About the skin thing, i dont see a problem there as you wont know wut skin you have till someone tells you, and there is no point in changing it as you will not see yourself ANYWHERE when youre playing.....
<!--QuoteBegin--blueman+Oct. 17 2002,04:15--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (blueman @ Oct. 17 2002,04:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->About the skin thing, i dont see a problem there as you wont know wut skin you have till someone tells you, and there is no point in changing it as you will not see yourself ANYWHERE when youre playing.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Is it just me or is that out of place? I mean you guys were talking about hives and turrets, not the skins of the player...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--> O Added "In umbra" indicator O Umbra lets through 1 in 7 bullets instead of 1 in 8 O Pistol, welder, and tripmines are now secondary weapons (only allow one) O Change primal scream to not use green, but to draw blinking primal scream text O Add generic sound when alien building dies (little squish/scream) O Fixed bodygroup jetpack problem (thanks Necro!<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> O All new fade sounds(all the role6 sounds except role6_spawn) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Glad to hear there is an umbra indicator, I had wondered about that myself. You weakened it again? Oh well, Id wanted to mock the silly marines by dancing round in clouds of umbra... oh well I guess Ill have to do it while dodging a bit more then.
You can only have a pistol OR a tripmine OR a welder? Or you can only have one of each? I know which makes more sense but its confusing and I just wanna be clear.
'Primal scream to not use green' Eh?
Woo, screaming buildings.
Give me an N, give me an O, give me a shorter name next time, well done necro. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
Necro<insert non-birthday-related title here>Join Date: 2002-08-09Member: 1118Members
to the top <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
Necro<insert non-birthday-related title here>Join Date: 2002-08-09Member: 1118Members
<!--QuoteBegin--CMEast+Oct. 17 2002,06:17--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CMEast @ Oct. 17 2002,06:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Give me an N, give me an O, give me a shorter name next time, well done necro. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL hahahaha i laughed so hard at that <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
What makes <i>me</i> excited is to see good, literate posts from the masses, even from people who don't normally do it! Even gramatically correct sometimes! 'Course, I don't get excited much....
Greedo: How do you know that I have not seen xenocide? I did and DOOManiac confirmed it. I inquired about the lack of an animation and DOOM replied somthing similar to <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--> "He just blows up. You don't really need an animation for that. Sane people are running the other way anyway."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Necro<insert non-birthday-related title here>Join Date: 2002-08-09Member: 1118Members
<!--QuoteBegin--Freemantle+Oct. 17 2002,19:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Freemantle @ Oct. 17 2002,19:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Greedo: How do you know that I have not seen xenocide? I did and DOOManiac confirmed it. I inquired about the lack of an animation and DOOM replied somthing similar to <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--> "He just blows up. You don't really need an animation for that. Sane people are running the other way anyway."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> rofl
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(Bleh, spelling errors in last post!<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
It looks like after a lot of hard effort by the developers and playtesters that things are coming together spendidly for the the v1.0 release. Great job guys -- and know that I'll be losing interest in the outside world for a few weeks once I get my grimey hands on what looks to be the best mod ever to be produced for HL.
Heh, good job man. You just summed up the thoughts of just about everyone on these forums. Well done. (I mean it too, no sarcasm intended <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> )
O New xenocide explode
O Add new xenocide effect
O Removed HMG slowdown, it can be fired from air again (too confusing and weird)
O Allow hives to be hurt while building (bounding box issue)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These points stick out the most.
A) Blinkfail? Are you keeping somthing from us?
B&C) Yay! I'm glad you fixed it. I wasn't too happy with what it was before.
D)Heavy Machine Gun + Jetpack = Apache! Wewt! (Who says there are no vehicles in Natural Selection?)
E) Mixed feelings on this. I kinda liked the idea of setting up a hive and running away, praying to god some of your teammates respawn before it gets pummeled.
Good stuff Flayra.
Anyways, sounds great as usual. Can't wait to play in two weeks.
So you can't choose your skincolor with the setskin command anymore? I fail to see the reason why one should not be able to choose their own skincolor, although I suppose there should be some reason for it that I fail to see at this point.
Hail Flayra! <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
<!--EDIT|Greedo386|Oct. 16 2002,23:33-->
Such a pessimist. Remember, he owns the Trademark for Natural Selection, not to mention the copyright. Besides, think of how this will look on his resume.
But it is still astounding he is working now for no pay, and started, not knowing where the project might take him.
-Ryan!
"I have a koala infestation. Much cuter than a roach infestation."
-- Mitch Hedburg
B&C) Yay! I'm glad you fixed it. I wasn't too happy with what it was before.
D)Heavy Machine Gun + Jetpack = Apache! Wewt! (Who says there are no vehicles in Natural Selection?)
E) Mixed feelings on this. I kinda liked the idea of setting up a hive and running away, praying to god some of your teammates respawn before it gets pummeled.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sometimes blinks fail, and you don't get teleported anywhere. blinkfail.
How could you have known what it was before if you've never seen it?
If hives can't be destroyed while building, then an ambitious and lucky builder can run into a marine controlled hive room and start the hive on its way. Marine defenses can't do anything, and more than likely, the aliens will be able to evolve to higher level creatures in the short time it takes the marines to bring the hive back down. It screams exploit.
Is it just me or is that out of place? I mean you guys were talking about hives and turrets, not the skins of the player...
O Added "In umbra" indicator
O Umbra lets through 1 in 7 bullets instead of 1 in 8
O Pistol, welder, and tripmines are now secondary weapons (only allow one)
O Change primal scream to not use green, but to draw blinking primal scream text
O Add generic sound when alien building dies (little squish/scream)
O Fixed bodygroup jetpack problem (thanks Necro!<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
O All new fade sounds(all the role6 sounds except role6_spawn)
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Glad to hear there is an umbra indicator, I had wondered about that myself. You weakened it again? Oh well, Id wanted to mock the silly marines by dancing round in clouds of umbra... oh well I guess Ill have to do it while dodging a bit more then.
You can only have a pistol OR a tripmine OR a welder? Or you can only have one of each? I know which makes more sense but its confusing and I just wanna be clear.
'Primal scream to not use green' Eh?
Woo, screaming buildings.
Give me an N, give me an O, give me a shorter name next time, well done necro. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
Role6?
ROFL hahahaha i laughed so hard at that <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
gg
rofl
how'd you see it o_I