Sick Of Onos!

Warped_DevotionWarped_Devotion Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20273Members, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">Grrrr</div> Ok, I am sick with the ONOS. I get sick of joining games where 5 mins into the game, 70% of the alines are ONOS. IMHO there should be 2 ONOS max for aliens, and at least 2-3 HA/JP's for marines. IMO that would balance it out a little more, and hopefully make games last alot longer.

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  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    oh, good god. please be joking...

    in order to kill things in a game with over 10 players ailens Need more than 2 onoses, or the or things wont be prettylike, the same goes for specal marines.

    the game time is good now, you dont want a day long game do you?
    for me, 1/2hr games are good, maybe thats an idea for co, seeing thats 5 seconds most of the time.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Combat games are supposed to be short.

    If the aliens get lots of onii, then the marines were probably camping.
  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    edited March 2004
    useley its 15 seconds over here, the ailens, sit on there fat <span style='color:white'>Dodge this.</span> and marines, well, you get my drift.

    honorless, and hopefully banned.
  • Warped_DevotionWarped_Devotion Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20273Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'm mostly speaking for NS maps.

    Forgot to mention this, but I was aiming at small people games....like with 4-6 ppl. 2 onos's for 6 ppl, 4 for 8, 5-6 for 10 and 7 for anything higher than that.
  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    Warped_devotion, don't tell me, the aliens had.... every single RT on the map the whole game? Ns isn't just about hives, its also about res control. No res for aliens=no onos. And an onos is USELESS when the aliens have only one hive, and even more so when it doesn't have mcs for celerity. If the whole alien team consists of all the skulks saving up for onos, you should be able to easily take down their RTs since they won't have any higher lifeforms for at least 7 minutes. Unless its a game with less than 12 players that is, the game gets kind of imbalanced since the less people on the alien team, the faster their res flow is.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    Blow of steam on Steam, not here.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    NS is not designed to be played by 4-6 people. That's one of the reasons Combat was created - as an alternative for smaller groups of people.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    All onos would mean everyone res****d. Which would mean no one got nodes. Which would make going onos impossible.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    If 70% of an alien team is Onos within five minutes, then that marine team sucked worse than Pamela Anderson.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
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    She sucks pretty good <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Exactly. They excelled at sucking. Or blowed hard. Or any number of endless sexual references.

    Regardless, if the server you play on has consistant games like that, I'd recommend finding a new server.
  • ViolenceJackViolenceJack Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5624Members
    If u wanted to put limits on stuff marines would have limits on weapons as well as HA and JP. A couple of LA, HMG marines can kill 1 onos easy.

    Depending on the size of the game, if most of the aliens save up and go onos the marines should be winning. tbh, ive seen worse. Ive played games where there have been aliens doing nothing, they have like 90-100 res and they still run around as skulk dieing. Well on a small game its hard for marines to win anyway, u can get onos really quick in a small game and chances are ur gonner need ur whole marine team just to kill that one. Then he goes onos again.

    To me that is like the major inbalance in NS. With large games its easy for marines to win with small games its easy for aliens to win, most ppl know that. They could alter the resource system so that the game is relativly fair for both sides in large, medium and small games.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    "Your opinion is wrong."

    -Me

    That would be like saying, "Okay, HAs with GLs are waaay to powerful. Two per game, only."

    You can't just decide to restrict the most powerful weapon on one side. And its not like their cheap; 75 res doesn't come quickly.
  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    edited March 2004
    Flamethrowers ready? Ok... fire!

    No, no, no, no, no, no, and no. Did I mention NO? The aliens are weak enough as it is and they don't NOT need another nerf. On top of that, the onos are ESSENTIAL to the victory of any good alien team in Combat and NS, and aliens will need more than 2.
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    I remember this one time, we were playing kestrel with the Superadmin on. He turned on cheats, I mashed on a "givexp" hotkey, and we all went onos and devoured the entire marine team while charging their CC to death.

    Gawd, that was fun. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Mar 13 2004, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Mar 13 2004, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All onos would mean everyone res****d. Which would mean no one got nodes. Which would make going onos impossible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No....


    He said he was talking about small games. Everyone can cap a node, and then still go onos in under 5 minutes because with a res node per person or more, they can easily do whatever they want. Marines on the other hand, have the same resflow in large or small games.

    Basically the only way for marines to win small games like that is to either A. drop res towers or command chairs on the nodes near the aliens hive at the beginning to slow them down considerably, or B. send marines out with shotguns to do nothing but hunt alien nodes. Basically, the aliens have to suck, or have less nodes than they have people for the marines to win.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    edited March 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>

    And indeed. 5 minute onos are STUPID.
    If they die, and they will, kharaa have no hives, no high lifeforms and probably no RTs. It takes a very bad comm to lose after killing a 5 min onos.

    2 days ago we had such a bad comm. >_<
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    5 min onoses? well i guess that might be easy to kill the onos since their might not even be any upgrade chambers or anything. And i seen 3 light armor marine with lvl 1 upgrades for weapon and armor killed an onos.
  • EggsEggs Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27069Members
    Well, that's fine.
  • Leet_LOLOLOLLeet_LOLOLOL Join Date: 2004-03-09 Member: 27245Banned
    edited March 2004
    OMG THEM KENT LOL!OL!OL!OLOL!




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  • blitz86blitz86 Join Date: 2004-03-11 Member: 27266Members
    Ditt cp

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